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Schultes
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Lions Mane substrate (Sawdust or wood chips) ?
#20873849 - 11/22/14 08:37 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm wondering if sawdust is better for a Lions mane substrate than small
wood chips? In Paul Stamets "Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms" he
has just sawdust listed as a substrate for Lions mane, and has wood
chips listed for other mushroom species substrates. Why would sawdust be
better specifically for Lions mane than wood chips. The reason I ask is
because all I have access to right now is wood chips. Any experience?
Any advice on why one would be better than the other?
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Forrester
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Re: Lions Mane substrate (Sawdust or wood chips) ? [Re: Schultes]
#20881222 - 11/23/14 08:27 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sawdust is better because it is already physically broken down pretty well and easier for the fungus to digest and use it's nutrients to make mushrooms for you. Woodchips should still work fine though, I mean lion's mane grows just fine in the wild on whole trees that haven't even been broken down into wood chips. So go for it!
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Schultes
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Re: Lions Mane substrate (Sawdust or wood chips) ? [Re: Forrester]
#20881394 - 11/23/14 09:10 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Right on! Will do
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sauroman1
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Re: Lions Mane substrate (Sawdust or wood chips) ? [Re: Schultes]
#24194619 - 03/26/17 12:17 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sawdust has more surface area for inoculation but too fine is not so good as mycelium needs oxygen supply. I want to use hardwood sawdust but it's 1-2 years old. Do I need fresh? Any nutrients to add to speed up colonisation and fruiting?
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Edited by sauroman1 (03/26/17 12:17 PM)
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Re: Lions Mane substrate (Sawdust or wood chips) ? [Re: sauroman1]
#24194974 - 03/26/17 02:56 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
sauroman1 said: Sawdust has more surface area for inoculation but too fine is not so good as mycelium needs oxygen supply. I want to use hardwood sawdust but it's 1-2 years old. Do I need fresh? Any nutrients to add to speed up colonisation and fruiting?
I've not used actual sawdust, only wood pellets, so I hope someone will correct me on this answer -
But I think as far as 1-2yr old sawdust, it may depend on how it was stored. If it was completely dried and stored in a very dry place, with almost no humidity around it, it might be fine.
But if any moisture has gotten to it (even high humidity in the air), other organisms have probably already started feeding on it. I this case, I wouldn't use it.
Yes you can add nutrients (supplementation) to increase yields. I don't believe supplementation will speed up colonization and fruiting, a good way to do that is to get your moisture content perfect. (Ie; on the drier side, not "field capacity" as they say where you can squeeze out a few drops of moisture. With fine sawdust, you should not be able to squeeze out any moisture. I find this to be the case even with wood pellets, which tend to have very coarse particles. Too much moisture always slows down my colonization and delays fruiting (with most species anyway).
Just my thoughts, I'm sure others have more experience with sawdust and can share their experience and advice.
-------------------- Repugnant is a creature who would squander the ability to lift an eye to heaven, conscious of his fleeting time here. ------------------- Have some medicinal mushrooms and want to get the most out of them? Try this double extraction method.
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