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sensory depravation
    #2086963 - 11/09/03 07:30 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

have any of you out there tried any sensory depravation at all? s.d. combined with tripping maybe? ive been really interested in this for a long time, but im not about to go out an invest in a float tank. any of you psychonauts have any good ideas how to accomplish this with minimal investment, id be very interested.

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Re: sensory depravation [Re: angryjslice]
    #2086967 - 11/09/03 07:33 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I've been interested in trying it since i first heard of it. I have no access to it though, unfortunately.


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Re: sensory depravation [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #2086994 - 11/09/03 07:53 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Sensory deprivation, as in staying awake for days on end till you're delirious?


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Re: sensory depravation [Re: MisterKite]
    #2086999 - 11/09/03 07:57 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I am investing in one of these tanks someday.
http://www.samadhitank.com/


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Re: sensory depravation [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #2087028 - 11/09/03 08:18 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Lying in bed in a completely dark and almost silent room does the trick for me when tripping. I close all the blinds, turn off all the lights. I unplug everything that has light like the clock radio and vcr. I towel the door and make sure as many lights as possible are off in the house, in case I have to get up. The sound is a little harder. Usually about 2am to 5am on week days provide the least noise. The house is real quite, but you can still hear cars when it is real quiet.
I suppose if you wanted to you could use a bathtub in the same environment, but I have never tried this. That would probably be a little closer to the actual depravation chamber than a bed.

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Re: sensory depravation [Re: MisterKite]
    #2087060 - 11/09/03 08:34 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Sensory deprivation, as in staying awake for days on end till you're delirious?




no, s.d. is like, no sound, no light, no nothing. it really opens up the mind. people use float tanks because your bouancy takes away alot of the other senses like feeling what your lying on. sometimes people deprive all but one sense to magnify that one.

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Re: sensory depravation [Re: angryjslice]
    #2087190 - 11/09/03 09:21 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, that was on the simpsons right?  :stoned:

I'd imagine your thoughts would get pretty crazy if you did that while tripping.


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Re: sensory depravation [Re: Ase]
    #2087201 - 11/09/03 09:25 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

How much do they cost?


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Re: sensory depravation [Re: MycoCat]
    #2087406 - 11/09/03 10:19 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

That's insane!! and awesome!!


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Re: sensory depravation [Re: Ase]
    #2087470 - 11/09/03 10:35 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Altered States


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Re: sensory depravation [Re: motaman]
    #2087527 - 11/09/03 10:53 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

altered states is one of the most disturbing movies i have ever seen in my entire life. really makes you think about the animal state that we all repress inside ourselves. tanks are expensive...but you can build them yourself (also expensive). i was hoping someone would have some ideas for sensory depravation without resorting to such things. student is on the right track with the bathtub trip.

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Re: sensory depravation [Re: angryjslice]
    #2087566 - 11/09/03 11:08 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Wow, expensive really narrows the price range down. Anyone know a real price for one? I'm just curious.


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Re: sensory depravation [Re: MycoCat]
    #2087878 - 11/10/03 12:56 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

The closest I got to sensory depravation was spending an entire acid trip lying in my bed in a pitch black room with little sound. It is a good way to get a lot of thinking done.


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Re: sensory depravation [Re: thepodman]
    #2088491 - 11/10/03 04:55 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

i have an old style bathtub (you know the kind with the 'feet') that's not hooked up anymore. with some modification, it could be converted into a kick ass sd tank.


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Re: sensory depravation [Re: noresolution]
    #2088868 - 11/10/03 10:36 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

They mix salts in the water of the float tank so that you can float on a small layer of water. They also make the temp the same as your body's. Sounds awesome. I heard there are some spa's where you can use them, probably not in Holland though :frown:
Modding a bathtub sounds like a lot of work if you want to do it good, but it would be a cool project.
A cheap way to eliminate sounds is to put on a headphone, but then you have the sense of a headphone against your ears. Some relaxing music would be cool though.


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Re: sensory depravation [Re: angryjslice]
    #2089045 - 11/10/03 12:29 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

the movie "altered states" (script/screenplay by paddy chayevsky)...
was more or less ripped off from dr john c lilly's manuscript notes for his book _the center of the cyclone_ (which covered much of the same ground as his NIMH monograph _programming and metaprogramming in the human biocomputer_ , but written for the general public as opposed to a government agency...)
lilly designed the float tank in response questions in the 50s from various government agencies about what would happen to a person who was in a quiet, dark, weightless place far from other people (apparently NASA was wondering about humans in orbit...) --- he tried it out and found that once you got used to it, you started to see & feel things that felt quite real, but would seem to be products of the floater's otherwise unoccupied consciousness...
eventually he started combining the floating experience with drugs (including LSD & ketamine, among others)... and things got even wierder...
as to the dolphins in the lab nextdoor (st thomas, virgin islands, mid-60s) --- well, that's another story...
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in addition to the books mentioned, there are others:
the dyadic cyclone, the deep self, the scientist, the book of floating...
www.google.com for more info, i betcha...


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Re: sensory depravation [Re: gnrm23]
    #2091047 - 11/11/03 01:57 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

http://www.toolsforwellness.com/mf001.html

Cant afford a dep tank so this will have to due ( while lying on a soft mattress)


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Re: sensory depravation [Re: cybrbeast]
    #2092753 - 11/11/03 03:50 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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They mix salts in the water of the float tank so that you can float on a small layer of water. They also make the temp the same as your body's. Sounds awesome. I heard there are some spa's where you can use them, probably not in Holland though :frown:




Try Koan Float in Amsterdam : http://www.koan-float.com/
Did my first float there in the Summer and it was a brilliant experience, Don't know if I'd want to do it tripping though...

I was also lucky enough to find a float center a 15 minute drive away from my home as well :smile: 


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Re: sensory depravation [Re: spleen]
    #2093216 - 11/11/03 05:59 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks dude, I'll check it out


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Re: sensory depravation [Re: angryjslice]
    #2094792 - 11/12/03 01:15 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I went on a 10 day meditation retreat - vipassana -where we had to meditate for 10 hours a day, every day, and were not allowed to talk to anyone or do anything in our breaks besides sleep, eat and walk. By the end of it I was pretty well sensorily deprived and I had some vivid hallucinations while meditating. I knew they were just hallucinations or 'visions'. I saw a white light of love and compassion projecting out of my forehead, and I saw snakes coming out of my body and saw spiral staircases like the double helix in front of my eyes. I also saw a woman changing into different other women of different nationalities and there was this one unchanging woman watching over the others and I thought they were my past lives. Anyway, the visions I guess could have been because of the meditation or the sensory deprivation because both are altered states of consciousness and altered states share characteristics - one that is hallucinations. Though by the end of the retreat all stimulation became very strong. I read when I got home that is a characteristic of sensory deprivation - if you get very little external stimulation you start overstimulating on the inside, and any stimulation you do get from the outside is extra strong. Like, I would walk out of the meditation room and the light would be extremely bright. Somebody started snoring in the meditation room once and it was extremely funny, we couldn't stop giggling - stuff like that. The effects lasted for a week or so after leaving (same with other people I know who have done the vipassana) like TV was just a bit much because it was too overstimulating. I had to get to uni to hand in something and just getting there and doing that (though normally a piece of cake) was quite stressful - seemed like such a process. So the stimulation could be good or bad. I dunno, I think I would be scared to trip in that state. They have vipassana in most countries if you were interested in trying that.


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