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intelligentlife
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: LSoares]
#20988199 - 12/17/14 08:12 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Omg... I haven't known this thread is here..
Maybe missed at some point being away from internet or so..
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P.Zappatecorum said: Anybody else have terrible luck with ariocarpus fissuratus germination? These things have been driving me crazy lately, everything else is germinating fine, I'm even getting acceptable rates from aztekiums, but I simply cannot get any A. fissuratus to germinate. Have tried GA-3, seed mat, no seed mat and am getting near 100% germination with other genera and even other ariocarpus, but A. fissuratus in particular is refusing to give me any seedlings. This has been with a few different vendors seeds even.

Can't help you there, I find Ariocarpus to be rather easy from seed (not the fastest, though). You must have had really bad luck with your seed, because that's all there's to it.
I have heard about customs may ruin seeds (if they are imported abroad)
Or seeds are very old and bad..?
I haven't heard any feedback from people who have got seeds from me about how they germinate, not Ariocarpus but still. One PM I've got and said they don't germinate and still I have succeed with them.
So to my point: Is it true seeds go bad in customs, crushed is one obvious thing but if small seedlings goes trough customs, why not seeds without damage?
If someone read this about(who have received seeds from me) I Would like to hear about do they germinate abroad or not?
I have suspected someone may sow them wrong. How others have succeed to get seeds out of your countries?
And do customs really have any x-ray beam stuff or some radiation equipment what can kill all living things? (that's I've heard from travelers who send seeds back to home.. As well cannabis seeds come trough customs but germination drops from good to almost zero %
Those who read this and have got the seeds from me, let me know because all seeds I have testesd(and I have tested every patch I send have been germinated)
Few Private messages about seeds doesn't germinate, I received at summer makes me worried.
So I have sown seeds, spent about few months in fridge and germination rate was better than nursery bought seeds.
Give some feedback please! (also those who have obtained seeds over customs) ..I would like to hear about how they do and is there any bad germinating seeds?
Thanks peeps! I just like to know is there any point sending seeds I produce is they go bad in envelope?
I have tried to ruin seeds By testing(with results they still germinate even few seconds in microwave) because never heard feedback from those I've send. Maybe one or two if I can recall but not much..
Also how you other have got seeds germinating what have come trough USA customs?
I'm just trying to improve my packing, even all living plants have get trough customs always, only feedback to Private mail I've got is "seeds doesn't germinate" ..but I can't know much is it because customs or how they have been sown?
Thanks yo.
Edited by intelligentlife (12/17/14 08:19 AM)
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: intelligentlife]
#20988466 - 12/17/14 09:35 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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I got some seeds from you a while back, I had no problem with germ rates IL. Matter of fact, the rates were so good, it's part of the reason I haven't started any more lol. I'm getting that itch though (damn you Winter!!), so I may be starting some right here soon, get a jump on the spring.
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: intelligentlife]
#20988993 - 12/17/14 11:41 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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@P.Zappatecorum - I have also had bad luck with a. fissuratus in particular. I started all of the other ariocarpus species and had excellent results, but fissuratus seeds from two sources and no seedlings yet.
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Also how you other have got seeds germinating what have come trough USA customs?
I've seen no problems with seeds going through USA customs. I've ordered seeds from Australia, Europe, China, and other places, and never had problems with low germination rates. Some of the packages were even open and inspected.
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: weilii-coyote]
#20989209 - 12/17/14 12:41 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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So seems it's only crushed cannabis seeds people talking..
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: intelligentlife]
#20990620 - 12/17/14 05:35 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've sent thousands of seeds into the US and they germinate fine. Seeds don't lose viability while in transit. The postal system uses rollers to process mail and they can damage seeds via crushing. There's a few good seed sending teks in the Useful & Informative thread stickied at the top of the forum. I'd link to some but am a little busy and pressed for time.
Can't comment on A. fissuratus seeds but try and source seeds from other growers as the germ rates are always higher due to freshness. Also cheaper and you can make some good friends this way. Network people.
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MrGiraffe

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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: karode13]
#20990817 - 12/17/14 06:10 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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 I had my last order of cacti seeds get fucked up because of those damn rollers. Luckily there were well more than 10 seeds per pack as advertised, so hopefully I'll still be ok when I get them planted.
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: MrGiraffe]
#20991263 - 12/17/14 07:25 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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karode13 said: I've sent thousands of seeds into the US and they germinate fine. Seeds don't lose viability while in transit. The postal system uses rollers to process mail and they can damage seeds via crushing. There's a few good seed sending teks in the Useful & Informative thread stickied at the top of the forum. I'd link to some but am a little busy and pressed for time.
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 I had my last order of cacti seeds get fucked up because of those damn rollers. Luckily there were well more than 10 seeds per pack as advertised, so hopefully I'll still be ok when I get them planted.
My go to Germans for seeds always put them in a box. Which works out perfectly. Now if you wanna send out so they don't get squashed get a piece of cardboard and an xacto knife or any other sharp knife. Cut a square within a square but don't go all the way through. Just peel back that layer and insert your seeds in the square. Like this.

Now depending on the number of seeds or the number of packets of seeds, you get bigger cardboard or thicker. Then you just cut it to size and stick in a padded envelope. An ex member on here showed me this method when I was sending something else that shouldn't be crushed. It's all relative though.
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: ferrel_human]
#20991375 - 12/17/14 07:50 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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That is a fuckin sweet idea.
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: MrGiraffe]
#20991900 - 12/17/14 09:44 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nice!
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intelligentlife
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: cowsRmeat]
#20992575 - 12/18/14 01:15 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well persons who have received plants from me as well as seeds, I don't think so packing is problem.
I may write wrong.
Maybe most of people doesn't put input about seeds, and those who doesn't seems to be able to grow them, didn't have sow them properly. So basically I have got wrong about few private posts and claims about seeds are bad.. Only few have send me reply seeds will germinate.
My packing is almost similar to Ferrel's Tek.
I have got lots of seedlings plants as well trough customs so that's why I wonder that. My envelope-parcels can tolerate weight of 100kilogram person without seedlings crushed inside.
Not a single seedling plant I have sent have died nor crushed anyway so that's why I wonder do I have send seeds to persons could not be able to even grow them.
Instead of ferrel use cardboard, I have used plastic pellets what have been actually done to "board" same stuff how electronics packed to protect them, I just do few "pockets" to that board, do it like a envelope of book when looking it as finished, and then I add cardboard around that to make it ~1inch fat envelope look-like a book in envelope.. I don't now that plastic pellet board name in enhlish, it's white and usually when tear apart they spread those small round pellets around.
Maybe I have form picture to my mind seeds go bad(because I have read cannabis growers say seeds go bad or crush) because only few have reply back to me about germination rates of my own seeds, most people doesn't have add any reply.
I hope later next summer or so I see pictures of those australian hybrid seedlings, lots of have been sent to USA, some to EU and one patch of seedlings wait I can send them next summer. Rest of them I keep myself.
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: intelligentlife]
#20992639 - 12/18/14 02:08 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey I need to ask..
I have graft some seedlings of astrophytum superkabuto. Rest of them grow in container, non-grafted. Just wonder can I degraft those when they are big enough to flower?
Can I degraft them like lophophora buttons? 
I just don't trust pereskiopsis as permanent stock but interested of trying to do hybrids of astrophytums and speed up seedling phase and still degraft them later as ornamental purposes, I really don't like long stocks of cobular plants, own root plants is always own root plant. Degrafted or not.
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: intelligentlife]
#20992750 - 12/18/14 04:21 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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I haven't degrafted asterias yet but the myriostigmas, capricorns, and turbinicarpus are striking roots well. So are the ariocarpuses, which is a relief. I left a nub of stock on the bottom and some didn't root and the perskiopsis bit rotted or dried up. So I pulled them out and let them dry a month or two. I then put them on wet perlite and they started rooting within the week. Was surprised how quick they struck roots. Seemed like root buds emerged over night.
So what I'm thinking is cutting them and letting them dry and callous a while. The longer the better or until they start to look like they are shriveling up and really WANT to root. Put them on wet perlite and off they go.
Just laid down a dozen packets of seed 4 days ago. Thanks LSoares! Think I'll limit the amount of grafts I do this year and KISS it and keep most on their own roots. The immediate reward with grafting and seeing results is awesome but I also like the slow approach and watching them gradually grow. Will probably graft a few of each.
Also as a update to my bitch fest earlier in this thread about freeze damage I'm happy to report survivors. It seems as if most of the shorter spined hybrids took less or no damage. I assume the pachanoid crosses juulsXSS03, PachXSS02, etc are. I needed the space anyway. I'm also confident now that the remaining will all be suitable for long term grafting stocks. The hand full can now get the proper care. Had too many to be able to pot up. Can't keep them in the ground here. It seems as if I have just the right number of to be put up into larger pots and fill the same amount of space the flats of seedlings took up haha. Its a shame my one baby I had in a large pot froze and bled out and turned to fungus. It was the biggest from the start so I kept it in larger pots. Heck now I look forward to the next few seasons.  
Interesting link I was looking at trying to find out the temps various trichocereus can withstand. http://www.cactuscollection.com/info/general/AP-ColdHardy-list.pdf
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
#21018038 - 12/23/14 05:05 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's some interesting data Corporal, I've just recently degrafted some Astrophytum. I'll report on how they fare.
Just posting to let the regulars plant heads know that I've got several hundred Acacia acuminata 'Narrow Phyllode' seeds to give away. I've tested viability and 50% have germinated within several days. There's many packs of 20 seeds to be shipped worldwide to those who are first to send me a PM.
Think of it as a christmas gift from the mods here at the Ethno Garden. It's a pleasure reading your posts and some of you I consider to be friends.
Hurry now, they wont last.....
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
#21019942 - 12/24/14 02:18 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Corporal Kielbasa said: Just laid down a dozen packets of seed 4 days ago. Thanks LSoares!
You're welcome, sir. 
So, just to be sure I got it: you cut the grafts with a short stub of Peres and let them dry before putting them in wet perlite, correct? And that was the procedure you followed with all of them?
Good job on the Arios, I've read they can be stubborn to strike roots.
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: LSoares]
#21021629 - 12/24/14 01:57 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thats nice of you Karode 
As of today 11 days in everything but the Frailea have sprouted so far. Even a home grown one.  
Originally I cut them off with 2 inches of pereskiopsis. Most rooted and are still grafts. I assume as they age the scion will throw some roots as the pere dies. A couple weeks after cutting them off, a handful of the peres didn't root and died back up to the scion. Those are now on the moist perlite rich cactus mix. On the layer of perlite float. I think with the arios the stub of pere keeps the ario from bleeding out. Even when it dies back to the union. I had one that had a layer of mold/rot but it scraped off to a clean healed surface with root buds. I kept it on a warm surface for a day to dry out then back on the moist sub it went.
Hard to see in the first pick. I uprooted them for a picture. But the stones are sticking to the roots so I tried to wash it off.
The last pic is mostly seed grown stuff from last year minus the asterias, mamm, and gymno.
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
#21021947 - 12/24/14 03:40 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just want to wish everyone a safe and merry christmas.
I live in the future so it's christmas morning where I am.
Smoak, eat, drink, love and be happy!
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: karode13]
#21022244 - 12/24/14 05:26 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: karode13]
#21022279 - 12/24/14 05:39 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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karode13 said: Just want to wish everyone a safe and merry christmas.
I live in the future so it's christmas morning where I am.
Smoak, eat, drink, love and be happy!

No drinking for me,but I'm going to sure smoke myself into a coma Merry Christmas back at you too mate
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: kactus.brand.g]
#21022489 - 12/24/14 07:09 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Merry Christmas my fellow cultivators! I Love you all and without you all I would be a lost soul.
Keep up all the great work!!
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: spaceman101]
#21022616 - 12/24/14 07:48 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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spaceman101 said: Merry Christmas my fellow cultivators! I Love you all and without you all I would be a lost soul.
Keep up all the great work!!
Thanks brother. You'll be safe.
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