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turtle_hermit
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: turtle_hermit]
#28206781 - 02/27/23 01:03 PM (10 months, 25 days ago) |
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Picked up a few plants recently. Got half a tray of pineapples (three varieties), some achacha (Garcinia humilis), Pakistan mulberry (Morus macroura), and a kava (Piper methysticum).
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: turtle_hermit]
#28206905 - 02/27/23 02:43 PM (10 months, 25 days ago) |
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Very nice man! I can't imagine living somewhere as to where you can pick up all those awesome tropical plants! Must be nice
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: KannaKris]
#28206945 - 02/27/23 03:26 PM (10 months, 25 days ago) |
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I am in the states at 30 degrees N, USDA zone 9. Winters are very mild and I work out of two separate green houses.
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: turtle_hermit]
#28207156 - 02/27/23 06:30 PM (10 months, 24 days ago) |
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Oh man, 9 would be perfect! You guys make me so jealous! Man, if I had two greenhouses in zone 9, I'd start up a dang plant business for sure
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: KannaKris]
#28207472 - 02/27/23 11:07 PM (10 months, 24 days ago) |
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Way ahead of you.
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: turtle_hermit]
#28207678 - 02/28/23 05:05 AM (10 months, 24 days ago) |
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Groovy man
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: KannaKris]
#28209429 - 03/01/23 12:22 PM (10 months, 23 days ago) |
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Picked up a couple of very nice jaboticabas, three red hybrid and two Sabara (Plinia cauliflora).

Also divided up some communal pots of Mimosa tenuiflora.
Edited by turtle_hermit (03/02/23 07:21 AM)
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: turtle_hermit]
#28210544 - 03/02/23 04:53 AM (10 months, 22 days ago) |
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Very nice man
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: KannaKris]
#28234044 - 03/17/23 05:25 PM (10 months, 7 days ago) |
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So I have a question I'm not sure of the most appropriate place to post because it intersects a handful of topics related to different parts of the forum. I personally think this may be the most appropriate as I'm looking for advice to help select a non-entheogenic plant for my garden...but I'm looking at it as part of my plan for an outdoor mushroom grow. So if I need to take this elsewhere, my apologies! But I think here works because I'm not seeking other info or advice on tek, I'm just trying to find the right plant 
Here's the scoop:
I'm trying to identify the perfect companion plant for small actives - probably ATL#7
Here's what I want:
- a bushy plant, to help hide small fruits and to promote a humid microclimate - a plant which does well in containers - a plant that does well with an abundance of moisture
Ideally, I'd also like a plant that is hard to damage with manure, even if you give it a lot. This one has proven the hardest to get an answer to, the rest is pretty easy. If I try to find this information with a search engine, I only find results promising to teach me how to properly fertilize plants, how to avoid giving too much, what the best fertilizer is...nothing about plants that need or tolerate large amounts. If I try asking mainstream garden groups or regular folks I just know, they do the same and refuse to give me a direct answer unless I first answer uncomfortable questions about why I seem to want to over fertilize.
Any ideas?
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: tianlin]
#28234052 - 03/17/23 05:36 PM (10 months, 7 days ago) |
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I once did a Cube grow in with my big potted bananas plants, and they can take all the manure and moisture that you can throw at them. Unless you were really looking, you would have never even seen all the mushrooms that were growing in their pot
Elephant ears work too, and love fertilizer and lots of moisture
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: KannaKris]
#28234119 - 03/17/23 06:34 PM (10 months, 6 days ago) |
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KannaKris said: I once did a Cube grow in with my big potted bananas plants, and they can take all the manure and moisture that you can throw at them. Unless you were really looking, you would have never even seen all the mushrooms that were growing in their pot
Elephant ears work too, and love fertilizer and lots of moisture 
Those are great suggestions for a future where I have more space, but alas I guess right now I also need a plant small enough for a container I can easily bring indoors on my own.
I was thinking something like some kind of ornamental grass that doesn't get more than a couple feet tall or something akin to a fern. Idk, there are so many variables and I'm hoping I can find the plant I'm looking for, but in the end I may need to take a slightly different tack. I'd like to know though
Edited by tianlin (03/17/23 06:36 PM)
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: tianlin]
#28234135 - 03/17/23 06:46 PM (10 months, 6 days ago) |
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tianlin said:
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KannaKris said: I once did a Cube grow in with my big potted bananas plants, and they can take all the manure and moisture that you can throw at them. Unless you were really looking, you would have never even seen all the mushrooms that were growing in their pot
Elephant ears work too, and love fertilizer and lots of moisture 
Those are great suggestions for a future where I have more space, but alas I guess right now I also need a plant small enough for a container I can easily bring indoors on my own.
I was thinking something like some kind of ornamental grass that doesn't get more than a couple feet tall or something akin to a fern. Idk, there are so many variables and I'm hoping I can find the plant I'm looking for, but in the end I may need to take a slightly different tack. I'd like to know though 
How about Phalaris?? Dmt and psilocybin in one go!
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: Soloist]
#28234187 - 03/17/23 07:35 PM (10 months, 6 days ago) |
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Maybe Pothos or Philodendron?
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: KannaKris]
#28234201 - 03/17/23 07:51 PM (10 months, 6 days ago) |
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Soloist said:
How about Phalaris?? Dmt and psilocybin in one go!
That's certainly a thought! I wonder how tough that is to grow, what kind of DMT yield one may reasonably expect, etc...maybe I should look into it, I don't know anything about it, just know the name in association with DMT.
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KannaKris said: Maybe Pothos or Philodendron?
I'm wanting to get a new one of those in a different variety, but I've had bizarrely bad luck with the one I have. It grows a little and just keeps dying about as fast as it grows. It never actually dies or stops growing, but it never gets meaningfully larger and there are always a handful of wilted leaves. Given its reputation as an easy houseplant, I'm surprised that in 2-3 years I haven't managed to get this thing to come around.
Wait...speaking of easy to grow houseplants, I took a start from my mother's spider plant this fall and it's doing extremely well and ready for a bigger pot. I should find out how they do with manure...that actually might be the answer right under my nose all along. I know it checks almost every box....but what about that last one?! I'll feel pretty dumb if I spent all this time trying to crack it and it was just in my office already. 
Edit: Yep. I think that's maybe it. They actually sound kind of sensitive to fertilizer generally, but luckily what I'm finding says it benefits a lot from a potting mix fluffed up with some coir. And I've seen people online fruit stone producers on coir like they were just cubes. So there we go, lighten the soil with a good bit of coir and I bet that could reduce the need for manure for the mushrooms while also increasing the plant's tolerance for manure by diluting the nutrients of the potting mix with something that has no nutritive benefit to the plant. I could probably feed lightly with manure a couple times over the summer then.
Edited by tianlin (03/17/23 08:09 PM)
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: tianlin]
#28234292 - 03/17/23 09:01 PM (10 months, 6 days ago) |
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Mushrooms growing in a spider plants pot 

As far as the manure goes, it wont bother either type of plant at all. I grow both, and they get fed an all purpose fertilize frequently. The ratio is pretty high on nutrients too. 24-8-16, and they love it! Manure isn't even close to those ratios, so I doubt it would bother them in the least, or coir for that matter
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: KannaKris]
#28235048 - 03/18/23 01:01 PM (10 months, 6 days ago) |
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KannaKris said: As far as the manure goes, it wont bother either type of plant at all. I grow both, and they get fed an all purpose fertilize frequently. The ratio is pretty high on nutrients too. 24-8-16, and they love it! Manure isn't even close to those ratios, so I doubt it would bother them in the least, or coir for that matter 
Great to know! Yeah I figure manure is likely much gentler than any chemical fertilizer, but I'm just wanting to make sure if possible!
Out of curiosity, do you know about ferns? In terms of cover and humidity I can't think of a more fitting choice! 
I wonder how it will go! I'll definitely post photos in a more fitting forum if it yields anything and I'd absolutely give my thoughts on dosage since even when you can find threads with people fruiting these things, it's still not very common to hear much open discussion of dosing with the fruits based on firsthand experience. Between this and my cacti, it should be an interesting summer
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: tianlin]
#28235200 - 03/18/23 02:37 PM (10 months, 6 days ago) |
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I do grow ferns, but mine are all outside in the ground. That being said, I think that would be a perfect choice for you for sure
Keep us posted as to what you end up doing 
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: KannaKris]
#28236747 - 03/19/23 02:53 PM (10 months, 5 days ago) |
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Picked up a couple ferns today 
Also got this planter in which Iβll grow some morning glories indoors in a big window with a trellis. Purely ornamental, even if the variety is active I donβt want to eat them. I got Grandpa Ott for the pretty, deep purple blooms. Torn between buying a lightweight wire trellis or making one with bamboo stakes and twine, but I have a little time to decide. Seeds are nicked and soaking to plant tomorrow!
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: tianlin]
#28236770 - 03/19/23 03:02 PM (10 months, 5 days ago) |
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Right on man! Please be sure to post it all when you get it set up
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Re: ***The Garden Shed--Official EG Off Topic Thread*** [Re: KannaKris]
#28236895 - 03/19/23 04:23 PM (10 months, 5 days ago) |
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KannaKris said: Right on man! Please be sure to post it all when you get it set up 
Will do! I also got a pack of ten strawberry starts for about twelve bucks. The instructions say to grow them with mulch on the soil. I have some woodchips fermenting currently, so this seems like a natural companion plant too for a different kind of exotic outdoor growβ¦ π€©
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