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just_curious
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Are the visuals and hallucinations actually always there?
#20847752 - 11/16/14 08:08 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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During my many of times on psychedelics, I always bring myself to the same question and I wonder if people think the same thing.
Is what I'm seeing while I'm trippin actually always there and the drugs just make you able to see it. Is the effects of the drugs accessing my "third eye" and unveiling the real world around me. Is it possible that I am actually seeing into another dimension? Between me and my computer screen, is there a multitude of dimensions that I'm able to view under the influence. Where I can see the inter-dimensional beings and shapes that their beautiful world has to offer? Am I alone on this thought? What other crazy questions have you asked yourself while tripping? Did they only make sense while you were on psychedelics, or did the ideas stick and make sense?
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Re: Are the visuals and hallucinations actually always there? [Re: just_curious]
#20847775 - 11/16/14 08:14 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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You and Aldous Huxley. I kind of agree. They remove the "filters" and let you see more of the raw data that your mind interprets based upon learned templates.
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Re: Are the visuals and hallucinations actually always there? [Re: lostinthecloud]
#20847782 - 11/16/14 08:16 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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I of course and ponder this all of the time, and my tripped out brain seems to interpret it as the spirit world that is always there, but rarely seen.
It's one of my favorite things to ponder during, and on the way down from the trip as the visuals get slighter.
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just_curious
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Re: Are the visuals and hallucinations actually always there? [Re: MagicMan82]
#20847811 - 11/16/14 08:23 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Einstein always talked about multiple dimensions. It makes sense. Man, I think of some crazy crap while I'm messed up lol. It's just like BOOM! mind explosion! I think that's why I love it so much lol. Just dive deep into the psyche and explore the realm of endless possibilities. I also like to watch t.v and think of how weird it is and how I'm so dumb to watch the retardation sober lol...the kroll show is nuts trippin BTW lol
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Re: Are the visuals and hallucinations actually always there? [Re: just_curious] 1
#20847875 - 11/16/14 08:43 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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just_curious said: Is what I'm seeing while I'm trippin actually always there and the drugs just make you able to see it. Is the effects of the drugs accessing my "third eye" and unveiling the real world around me.
Yes, and yes.
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Is it possible that I am actually seeing into another dimension?
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Between me and my computer screen, is there a multitude of dimensions that I'm able to view under the influence. Where I can see the inter-dimensional beings and shapes that their beautiful world has to offer?
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Am I alone on this thought?
No.
Any more questions?
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just_curious
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Re: Are the visuals and hallucinations actually always there? [Re: zZZz]
#20847914 - 11/16/14 08:52 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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But how do you know? Lol. Give me some insights, thoughts, ideas. I think its amazing how peoples thought process while they're tripping, but never met each other, are having the same experiences and thoughts
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Re: Are the visuals and hallucinations actually always there? [Re: just_curious] 1
#20847930 - 11/16/14 08:55 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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just_curious said: Give me some insights, thoughts, ideas.
I could, but wouldn't it be much easier if I just told it was true and you believed me?
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just_curious
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Re: Are the visuals and hallucinations actually always there? [Re: zZZz]
#20847965 - 11/16/14 09:03 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's not that I believe you, its that I'm open to the possibilities. I dont think youre some all knowing God, but when you come across so sure, but don't provide any insight on the idea or topic, then it makes me question you. Why not. Apparently somebody has to be the brainstormer instead of the troll. Not being a dick, just poking for some conversation
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Re: Are the visuals and hallucinations actually always there? [Re: just_curious] 1
#20848020 - 11/16/14 09:12 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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suppose you do find the answer, what then?..
Suppose you found out for certain that those hallucinations werent actually there.. Do you stop questioning?..
Suppose you found for certain it was all true, what's next?..
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just_curious
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Re: Are the visuals and hallucinations actually always there? [Re: zZZz]
#20848283 - 11/16/14 10:30 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Then we would have a different Outlook on life, and have to attempt to open a doorway to view these realms all the time and question what else in our life is false and figure out how to expose it. It's fun to have mysteries, but I always want to know for certain. Idk, it might be dumb, but I hate the fact that we just never know, when really, we do know but no evidence supports it...if that makes sense
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just_curious
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Re: Are the visuals and hallucinations actually always there? [Re: just_curious]
#20848287 - 11/16/14 10:32 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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That is a very valueble question though. The kind of stuff that makes me think. I enjoy getting lost in thoughts, but want to know also
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Re: Are the visuals and hallucinations actually always there? [Re: just_curious]
#20848293 - 11/16/14 10:33 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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just_curious said: During my many of times on psychedelics, I always bring myself to the same question and I wonder if people think the same thing.
Is what I'm seeing while I'm trippin actually always there and the drugs just make you able to see it. Is the effects of the drugs accessing my "third eye" and unveiling the real world around me. Is it possible that I am actually seeing into another dimension? Between me and my computer screen, is there a multitude of dimensions that I'm able to view under the influence. Where I can see the inter-dimensional beings and shapes that their beautiful world has to offer? Am I alone on this thought? What other crazy questions have you asked yourself while tripping? Did they only make sense while you were on psychedelics, or did the ideas stick and make sense?
I've found that it's some of both. Some of the things you see and experience are actually "there", in the sense that you normally understand "there" - you can touch them, feel them, hear them, photograph them (if you're lucky). Others are true hallucinations, you see stuff that isn't really there but it seems real. So yeah, the door is covered with cool stuff, but it also opens into the real beyond. 
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Re: Are the visuals and hallucinations actually always there? [Re: zZZz]
#20848300 - 11/16/14 10:35 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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I will never understand how anybody can think the things you are seeing on drugs are the real deal, and when you're not on drugs you aren't seeing what is really there. It's the exact opposite, it's not a conspiracy! The light from the sun reflects off of objects and goes into our eye sockets, our brain then turns those things into images. Taking a drug does not somehow amplify your eyes and make your brain able to see things it couldn't otherwise see. The swirly blobs of water-colors everything turns into when I take my doses of shrooms are not really there, trust me on this one.
Furthermore, "seeing other dimensions" isn't possible. Unless you somehow have a time machine, travel through time, and look at yourself fifty years from now (you'd be looking in the fourth dimension in this case, I guess), you're not seeing any other dimensions. They are all time-related after the third one! We only see in 3 dimensions! We can't even technically "see" things in 2D!
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just_curious
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Re: Are the visuals and hallucinations actually always there? [Re: ApexNightmare]
#20848482 - 11/16/14 11:22 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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In 1884, Edwin A. Abbot published a novel that depicts the problem of seeing dimensions beyond your own. In "Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions," Abbot describes the life of a square in a two-dimensional world. Living in 2-D means that the square is surrounded by circles, triangles and rectangles, but all the square sees are other lines. One day, the square is visited by a sphere. On first glance, the sphere just looks like a circle to the square, and the square can't comprehend what the sphere means when he explains 3-D objects. Eventually, the sphere takes the square to the 3-D world, and the square understands. He sees not just lines, but entire shapes that have depth. Emboldened, the square asks the sphere what exists beyond the 3-D world; the sphere is appalled. The sphere can't comprehend a world beyond this, and in this way, stands in for the reader. Our brains aren't trained to see anything other than our world, and it will likely take something from another dimension to make us understand.
Our brains aren't trained to see anything other than our world, and it will likely take something from another dimension to make us understand.
Could hallucinogenic drugs be that outside source helping us see and understand other dimensions. I mean, why are these properties here in the first place other than to make us feel good?
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Re: Are the visuals and hallucinations actually always there? [Re: ApexNightmare] 1
#20848500 - 11/16/14 11:28 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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AndyCP said: I will never understand how anybody can think the things you are seeing on drugs are the real deal, and when you're not on drugs you aren't seeing what is really there. It's the exact opposite, it's not a conspiracy! The light from the sun reflects off of objects and goes into our eye sockets, our brain then turns those things into images. Taking a drug does not somehow amplify your eyes and make your brain able to see things it couldn't otherwise see. The swirly blobs of water-colors everything turns into when I take my doses of shrooms are not really there, trust me on this one.
Furthermore, "seeing other dimensions" isn't possible. Unless you somehow have a time machine, travel through time, and look at yourself fifty years from now (you'd be looking in the fourth dimension in this case, I guess), you're not seeing any other dimensions. They are all time-related after the third one! We only see in 3 dimensions! We can't even technically "see" things in 2D!
You sure do have things figured out. You should start a religion! Also, smoke some DMT and you will see everything you are spouting, believe in and hold on to dearly will be shattered in one moment.
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Re: Are the visuals and hallucinations actually always there? [Re: just_curious]
#20848505 - 11/16/14 11:30 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Could hallucinogenic drugs be that outside source helping us see and understand other dimensions.
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why are these properties here in the first place other than to make us feel good?
why do you think they are here?.. i'd really like to know..
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Re: Are the visuals and hallucinations actually always there? [Re: zZZz]
#20848522 - 11/16/14 11:39 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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You sure do have things figured out. You should start a religion! Also, smoke some DMT and you will see everything you are spouting, believe in and hold on to dearly will be shattered in one moment.
Some of us, who are also passionate about psychedelics, aren't fit for the psychiatric ward where theories like this belong haha. Because a drug can produce images from the receptors in my brain doesn't lead me to believe in aliens, extra-dimensional beings, or life being a simulation. I am not hippie enough to even bother with such theories haha.
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Re: Are the visuals and hallucinations actually always there? [Re: ApexNightmare]
#20848535 - 11/16/14 11:46 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Are the visuals and hallucinations actually always there? [Re: Johnny Depp]
#20848569 - 11/16/14 11:55 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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I put some thought in this as well but I am personally a non-believer. Some explaining thought that has crossed my mind is that synesthesia could be the answer. In short, synesthesia is a different connection between your senses and your brain. Tasting colors, hallucinations dancing around to the beat of the music. I'm sure we've all experienced it.
I thought, maybe this synesthesia allows you to see certain forces, types of energy or electricity, that we normally only perceive in a 'passive' part of our brain. It would be amazing, that is for sure.
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Re: Are the visuals and hallucinations actually always there? [Re: daspfeerd]
#20848582 - 11/16/14 11:59 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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High doses of LSD in darkness with music = Synesthesia
It def happens, but I have seen other things and heard things on LSD that just weren't real, but so real.
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