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Cakes Vs Casing. How Cakes Work...Or Don't
    #2084598 - 11/08/03 06:41 PM (14 years, 18 days ago)

KK i've given this alot of thought so please hang with me  :blush:
I really don't understand why Fruiting in "Cake" form is worthwhile.
What's the benefit of the INSIDE of a cake, doesn't it simply go to waste as the fruiting happens on the outside? Cakes, from what i've seen, tend to have mediocre to occasional moderate pinning/fruiting. If someone could explain the TRUE dynamics of a cake I would be greatful.

As I See It....
Basically I believe cakes are a good colonization form. Simply because they are so easy to make and to keep sterile. But wouldn't the best method be to crumble and case the cakes for increased pinning/fruiting(incresed surface area). Basically to me the fruiting has alot to do with surface area of mycelium. Hope i'm analyzing this right  :shocked:

Well just looking for some opinion's really All. Just fail to understand why only partial surface area of cakes fruit compared to casing's.   


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Re: Cakes Vs Casing. How Cakes Work...Or Don't [Re: DeeBo]
    #2084775 - 11/08/03 08:13 PM (14 years, 18 days ago)

just theory: maybe it has to do with, that cakes don't get air inside and wasting the inside mycelium... and with casing it is spread out and can use the mycelium to it full potential... i wonder if i even attempted to answer the question right? oh well


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Re: Cakes Vs Casing. How Cakes Work...Or Don't [Re: DeeBo]
    #2084881 - 11/08/03 08:55 PM (14 years, 18 days ago)

Case them whores unless you live in year 1990


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Re: Cakes Vs Casing. How Cakes Work...Or Don't [Re: ghoulbee]
    #2085233 - 11/08/03 10:41 PM (14 years, 18 days ago)

Right.


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Re: Cakes Vs Casing. How Cakes Work...Or Don't [Re: DeeBo]
    #2085298 - 11/08/03 11:03 PM (14 years, 18 days ago)

Case or dunk and roll. With the dunk and roll you get shrooms faster but with casing you can stretch a cake quite a but further.
With the dunk and roll the average is 8 to 10 grams dry (from what I?ve seen, I never have grown before :wink: )

This is a dunk and roll cake. I don?t pretend it?s as good as casing but it?s as easy as it gets.



Now I saw one or two cakes colonizing in this incubator thing once and they are easy, oh here I have a pic.



But if your gonna get serious about casing you?ll find doing grains just as easy as cakes, and with all the filter disk, tyvek, poly fill, that it?s pretty easy to keep contams out.
This is grains, or so I hear. The jar in the middle is 10 days old and the rest are 5 and 6, so I hear :wink:



They colonize way faster and each one of those jars is equal to 4 half pints.

 


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Re: Cakes Vs Casing. How Cakes Work...Or Don't [Re: DeeBo]
    #2085315 - 11/08/03 11:07 PM (14 years, 18 days ago)

DeeBo,

You've got it right.  That's pretty much consensus on the subject.

Casings outproduce cakes hands down, but involve a little more work and significant contam risks.

Cakes are quite bulletproof IMO and some people like that aspect or simply have never given casing a try.

I've had some cakes that held their own in the yield department, and also many that kinda sucked.  But I've never had a casing that sucked even a little, unless you count the ones that didn't make it.  :frown:


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Re: Cakes Vs Casing. How Cakes Work...Or Don't [Re: Ben_Stein]
    #2085468 - 11/08/03 11:55 PM (14 years, 18 days ago)

Appreciate the input ALL. The truth lies in me really is the point I think. How much preparation/information/motivation I put into it. Love the reply Magash, thanks.


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