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synista


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Chicon nindo mycelium?
#20837306 - 11/14/14 04:04 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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I isolated some from spores I got from a trade, but now I'm having doubts about whether it's actually mycelium or cobweb... I've actually had some stones form on agar and this jar is from the stone.
It's very weak and it was kind of slow compared to tampanensis or galindoii.
Here's the jar
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Re: Chicon nindo mycelium? [Re: synista]
#20837324 - 11/14/14 04:13 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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cool!! I'm actually about to spawn chicon nindo myself. i just shook jar yesterday though, so pic won't be helpful. i did two jars, and one looks like urs, very whispy, the other has thicker growth. the difference seemed to come from the plates mycelium, the one jar i used more colorful mycelium, and the second jar i used only white mycelium on the plate. if ur plate was clean (and considering it was growing stones, i'd venture to guess it was), and ur confident in ur sterile procedure, i would say u should spawn it. mine was also slower than ATL7 and tamps. either way, that it not cobweb, especially since u described it as slow.
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synista


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Alright, I got scared for a second. I think I have an old plate sitting with some more colorful parts and I'll try and isolate those. However, I think I'll let this one sit for a while to see some stone growth before spawning.
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Re: Chicon nindo mycelium? [Re: synista]
#20837582 - 11/14/14 05:20 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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You'll know it's cobweb when your jar colonizes in 2 or 3 days flat. Cobweb makes moves.
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im spawning mine with no visible stone growth, curious to see how it comes out!! pasteurizing now...
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synista


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Keep us updated!
I have read that adding sand to your casing improves yield by a shitload for this strain.
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Re: Chicon nindo mycelium? [Re: synista]
#20837803 - 11/14/14 06:06 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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will do. i've also read about sand in casings for exotics...but never any mention of yield increased by a "shitload". are u talking about the elf stone thread?
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synista


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Re: Chicon nindo mycelium? [Re: synista]
#20837839 - 11/14/14 06:17 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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No, it was azure on another forum "another Ps. mexicana 'chicon nindo' grow". Maybe shitload was too strong a word, but judging by the pictures it helps. I don't know what the rules are about linking to other forums but you can find it through a search engine.
Edited by synista (11/14/14 06:21 PM)
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Re: Chicon nindo mycelium? [Re: synista]
#20837845 - 11/14/14 06:19 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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ill take ur word for it....tried two searches, nothing came up. ur allowed to link to anywhere as far as i know, even other cultivation sites
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synista


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https://mycotek.org/index.php?threads/another-ps-mexicana-chicon-nindo-grow.6791/
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eLShaMukO ... try sand in the casing layer at a ratio of 5-10%, I think that is key with these 'chicon nindo' strains. I am def. noticing a pattern with it.
I did another cn-mexicana grow like 2 months back and the results were weak. We subsequently brainstormed about my initial success, and realized that I had used calci-sand. I added gardening sand to the casing-layer this time, and once again the results are consistent with the suggestion that this strain of mexicana benefits from sand in the casing layer. I don't have time to do controlled experiments with it, but the results speak for themselves. I think the cn-mexicana and cn-zapotecorum benefit from the addition of sand.
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Re: Chicon nindo mycelium? [Re: synista]
#20837888 - 11/14/14 06:32 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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oh cool! i never really ventured off this forum for cultivation stuff for actives, only edibles. there was a guy on here called elf stone who did zapa. with sand in his casing, which he said helped with fruiting. i have no way to get sand that i can think of right now, besides a playground, so if u add it and it helps, lemme know!! stone sun uses/used cactus soil mix sometimes, so i guess there is sand in that
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synista


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Re: Chicon nindo mycelium? [Re: synista]
#20838242 - 11/14/14 07:56 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sure! It'll probably be a while before I fruit... I also don't have any sand at hand and I am broke. Feel free to hijack this thread with your grow once it's finished, there aren't enough chicon nindo growths out there.
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Re: Chicon nindo mycelium? [Re: synista]
#20838459 - 11/14/14 08:41 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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That myc looks just like my jars of mexicana. I couldn't believe how faint it was and spent some time worrying about whether they were contamed.
Now that most of them have reached 100% colonization, or pretty close, the myc is getting thicker and match head sized stones are forming in some of the jars.
Are you planning on fruiting these or just going for stones?
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Re: Chicon nindo mycelium? [Re: Scrimshaw]
#20838486 - 11/14/14 08:47 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here is a pick of one of my jars from about 2 weeks ago. The picture made the myc look fainter than it really was, but you can see the contrast with the uncolonized grain on the right hand side.

The last 2 weeks have made a big difference in appearance. I have galindoi that I started a week before these and they are outperforming the mexicana big time. I could probably harvest all my galindoi jars, while I wouldn't get anything from the mexicana jars.
I started the mexicana for some diversity, but at this rate, the galindoi seems to be way faster and I would be shocked if the mexicana yields were similar.
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synista


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Re: Chicon nindo mycelium? [Re: Scrimshaw]
#20838673 - 11/14/14 09:33 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'll probably harvest the stones and try and fruit the rest.
I have a Mex-A jar that's really agressive, the stones started forming and breaking up the grain cake before it even fully colonized. This one has been isolated on agar.
HOWEVER, I've had some mex-a jars that came from the same syringe as the jar I just spoke about, that had thin, slow myc, and a very shitty stone yield. This was when I didn't know how to do agar work. So my hypothesis is, judging from our experiences, is that it depends on the isolate. If stonesun could chime in...
About my own jar, I do remember reading that cobweb was lightning fast, I just wasn't sure anymore and was worried I got slow ass cobweb.
Do you think I should shake the jar as it is right now to kind of "strengthen" the myc? I only have one jar so I don't want to fuck it up if it isn't necessary.
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Re: Chicon nindo mycelium? [Re: synista]
#20838783 - 11/14/14 09:58 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Most of the threads I have read about cobweb mold seem like it is more likely in tubs and other non-jar environments. From your pictures, it looks healthy to me.
Some will say not to shake sclerotia jars, but since I've been using MS, I've had to shake in order to get colonization completed in a reasonable time. Your jar looks 100%, so I would probably hold off on shaking and hope you see stones in the next few weeks.
Did you shake this jar earlier? If the myc bounced back then, it's a good sign it's not contam.
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synista


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Re: Chicon nindo mycelium? [Re: Scrimshaw]
#20838985 - 11/14/14 11:00 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, I've only been doing sclerotia producers with one successful PF tek jar under my belt, so I have no experience with tubs and whatnot.
I've shaken the jar at maybe 20% and then at 60% because myc was forming only on the top layer, so I kind of rolled it around to distribute the mycelium grains evenly and it recovered. I guess I'm good!
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