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OfflineTrippinSpinners
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LETs say someone....
    #2081007 - 11/07/03 02:49 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

...cased their substrate with a 50/50 mix.... They didn't like how the 50/50 was working out, so they mixed up a batch of 60/40 to do another casing. At the same time, they wanted to patch a couple areas on their 50/50 casing. Can this person use the 60/40 mix to patch, instead of using 50/50? Would there be any negitive effects?

I dont like 50/50 cuz i got cobweb after 48 hrs on one of my casings.


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Re: LETs say someone.... [Re: TrippinSpinners]
    #2081025 - 11/07/03 02:57 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

50/50 isn't far off from 40/60. I don't see how it could ruin the casing. You're just patching; anything is better than nothing, but it probably would be better to use the 50/50 so it'll be more even (shouldn't be a big deal, though.)

You got cobweb because the humidity was too high. Cobweb needs humidity levels way above what casing requires to not dry out.

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Re: LETs say someone.... [Re: micro]
    #2081032 - 11/07/03 02:58 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

What is the proper humidity level for a casing?


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Re: LETs say someone.... [Re: MycoCat]
    #2081043 - 11/07/03 03:01 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Just enough so it doesn't dry out. Somewhere around 75% rH, but it depends on how much you mist it. You should be able to tell if it's getting dry by the appearance -- keep it looking nice and moist, but not too much.

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Re: LETs say someone.... [Re: MycoCat]
    #2081050 - 11/07/03 03:03 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

for pinning, like cakes: 95-100%
after pinning, casings make their own humidity - no extra (perlite etc) required: 85-90%


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Re: LETs say someone.... [Re: MycoCat]
    #2081052 - 11/07/03 03:03 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Micro... I love this hobby. learn shit every step every time. Gotta take out the water in my incubator..... Is it still nessacary to cover your casing if it's in an incubator??? i keep a towl over mine to keep it in the dark.


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Re: LETs say someone.... [Re: TrippinSpinners]
    #2081060 - 11/07/03 03:06 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Wait a second. I'm doing my first ever casing tonight and I went out and bought perlite. Do I not need to add to the terrarium?


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Re: LETs say someone.... [Re: TrippinSpinners]
    #2081067 - 11/07/03 03:08 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I wouldn't cover it if it's in a humidified incubator -- no reason, except when you run the mycelium through the casing a little CO2 buildup will help it to run through the casing quicker. Make sure there is some room for air, though -- if not you need to poke holes.

I don't use an incubator for casings, though -- just a covered plastic bin. Since it's covered, humidity stays inside the bin, so there's no need for a humidifier. Just my preference.

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Re: LETs say someone.... [Re: MycoCat]
    #2081072 - 11/07/03 03:10 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

ya.... were talking about colonizing casings.... your need the perlite/geolite for fruiting time....


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Re: LETs say someone.... [Re: micro]
    #2081073 - 11/07/03 03:10 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

When you say incubator do you mean terrarium?


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Re: LETs say someone.... [Re: MycoCat]
    #2081075 - 11/07/03 03:12 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

NO... i had some water in my incbator so my jars and cakes would stay moist. I did it mainly for the jars that were clolonizing. next time i dont think im going to put any water at all in it.


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Re: LETs say someone.... [Re: MycoCat]
    #2081077 - 11/07/03 03:12 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I just want to get this clear. When my casing begins to pin, I can put it in a plastic bin with a cover and I don't need to add perlite to the bottom for humidity at all? But if the bin is too big won't one casing not be able to provide enough humidity?


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Re: LETs say someone.... [Re: MycoCat]
    #2081082 - 11/07/03 03:14 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah -- sorry -- terrarium.

There's no need to have that much humidity, even when pinning. The casing provides the moisture it needs -- if you want, mist twice a day instead of once.

....or you could use perlite, etc. -- your choice.

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Re: LETs say someone.... [Re: MycoCat]
    #2081088 - 11/07/03 03:16 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

you mean once your casing start to colonize, then you pop it in your fruiting chamber. Your fruiting chanber should be set up the same way you did when u did cakes. Yes it should have perlite at the bottom.


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Re: LETs say someone.... [Re: micro]
    #2081094 - 11/07/03 03:17 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

If it's covered, and it's a normal-sized bin, it should keep the humidity in just fine. I use something like 6"x12" by 12" deep -- this is a good size. Just make sure you add enough casing.

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Re: LETs say someone.... [Re: TrippinSpinners]
    #2081096 - 11/07/03 03:18 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

should of asked if you got a poor mans pod? or do you plan on fanning the casings?


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Re: LETs say someone.... [Re: micro]
    #2081100 - 11/07/03 03:19 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I don't need a fruiting chamber.  Why does everyone need a god-damned fruiting chamber????

(you can tell I'm really bored :wink: )

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Re: LETs say someone.... [Re: TrippinSpinners]
    #2081107 - 11/07/03 03:21 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

My fruiting chamber is going to be a plastic bin with perlite on the bottom. I'm going to fan three to five times a day, and I'm going to mist with a combination of of h2o2 and water after fanning to keep the humidty up. I don't have a hygrometer so I'm planning on just watching the water build-up on the sides of the bin. That sound good?


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Re: LETs say someone.... [Re: micro]
    #2081108 - 11/07/03 03:21 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

ya... i got a casing of shrooms sitting right here in front of my on my desk... to tell you the truth they grow a lot better sittin out in the middle of the room. I just spray them with bleach twice a day!  :nut: 


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Re: LETs say someone.... [Re: MycoCat]
    #2081110 - 11/07/03 03:21 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Why don't you need a fruiting chamber?


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