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caapi identification
    #2074019 - 11/05/03 04:48 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

is there any distinctive physical things that distinguish caapi vine from other vines. i was in costa rica and seen tonnes but had no clue how to identify. i am goign to equador for a couple weeks and hoep to find some perhaps even go to muchu pichu and/or teh sacred hot waterfall. :wink:  ive checked out erowids pics but pics dotn really cut it for me.

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Re: caapi identification [Re: the man]
    #2074540 - 11/05/03 07:16 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

hohohohoho
the man: hunting vines is not like hunting mushrooms or cacti.
it's way tricker.
ask the local people, they'll be able to show you the plant (hey, this is an easy one to mistake by other vines), i would recommend you not to try to ID it.
or buy in the fairs...
be careful the man, there ARE poisonous vines, don't go munch on any leaves you see hanging down in peru.
good luck!


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Re: caapi identification [Re: felixhigh]
    #2074586 - 11/05/03 07:25 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

ok thats why i was wounderign if there are any unmistakable qualitys. there must be somthing a flower or leaf or structure of teh vine. anyway thanks man

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Re: caapi identification [Re: the man]
    #2076607 - 11/06/03 09:45 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Here is a picture of Banisteriopsis Caapi vine from the amazon.



I kinda doubt that you would find this vine in COsta Rica.

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Re: caapi identification [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2076619 - 11/06/03 09:51 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

mjshroomer said:

I kinda doubt that you would find this vine in COsta Rica.

mj




so do I.


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Re: caapi identification [Re: felixhigh]
    #2077478 - 11/06/03 03:10 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

but im goign to equador. i went to costa rica before. anyway thanks

no identifyign qualitys though?

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Re: caapi identification [Re: the man]
    #2077544 - 11/06/03 03:40 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

I would recommend looking around the local Indian markets and fairs like felix suggested. That would be alot safer and more efficient than wandering around an unfamiliar rainforest in an unfamiliar country seeking an unfamilar plant. Or perhaps sign up for an ayahuasca-tourist event, instead. Google "ayahuasca tour" and you'll find several options. good luck :thumbup:


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Re: caapi identification [Re: Xochitl]
    #2077613 - 11/06/03 04:07 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

i would just like to know what it is.im sure it will tell me what it is powerful plants have a way of doign that.
i feel bad choping down a old vine. so lookign is jsut fine with me


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Re: caapi identification [Re: the man]
    #2078637 - 11/06/03 09:08 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

all that vine has is an maoi ( i think) really nothing too specail, why dont you just ask some locals where you can hunt for cubies at?


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Re: caapi identification [Re: Psychoslut]
    #2080275 - 11/07/03 08:04 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

I aslso do not recall the vine in Ecuador either. Venezuela, Peru and the Colombian Amazonia is thier home.

Read One River by Wade Davis or look in most University library reference stacks for the Harvard Botanical Museum Leaflets, R. E. Schultes provides many locations for these vines and with pictures of them, illustrations actually. Also read Richard Burtons writings on his original discovery of the vines and their uses in Folk Medicine.

Buy Jonatrhan Ott's Ayahuasca Analogues.

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Re: caapi identification [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2080573 - 11/07/03 10:20 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

perhaps there's tetrapterys methystica there (EQ) BUT i think i've got what THE MAN wants.
he just wants to stare at the magical plant and that's something i always do (and love to do), when i see an entheogen for the first time or when i see a powerful magical plant, to feel it's power can even leave one 'emotional' or feeling good somehow...
i remember when i spotted every entheogen i know for the first time...
i love to go to the anadenanthera trees, just for the good vibes they keep around them. before i know those trees i used already to smoke on that spot.
=)

Ott's ayahuasca analogues should be a great book...
the little of it i see in the net is very useful!


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Re: caapi identification [Re: felixhigh]
    #2080805 - 11/07/03 11:38 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

ok thanks u guys, thats sweet. yea felix hit it on the head there. im only there for a few weeks and wouldnt have teh tiem to prepare for a ceremony. thsi is a link i got about a ceremonial spot in the ecuador. looks pretty beutiful.http://www.alanmatthew.com/ecuador3.htm

and thanks mj ill read those books. im goign to be a archeologist so it will help alot too.
mayeb mushrooms is all i will eb able to find. that ok too. hah

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Re: caapi identification [Re: the man]
    #2081051 - 11/07/03 01:03 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

what you mean you wouldn't have time to prepare for a ceremony?
no one is prepared for nothing (new), specially to DMT. >=]
but if you're referring on starting a MAOI friendly diet, i think you can do it from now and you'll be fine in EQ.
besides that i don't know if one needs to change its diet so radically for such a long time before. i thought what mattered were the day or the few days before the experience (and after).
as for sexual fasting i don't know shit.


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Re: caapi identification [Re: felixhigh]
    #2081061 - 11/07/03 01:07 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

haha yea i suppose. never do know what might happen;) im nto leavign for awhile anyway. your so luck e to live where u are felix


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Re: caapi identification [Re: the man]
    #2082237 - 11/07/03 08:10 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

so you are, the man! every place has its specialities... :wink:
enjoy your trip!

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Re: caapi identification [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2083935 - 11/08/03 12:40 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

euro adventurer who first obtained caapi specimens was _richard spruce_
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(sir richard burton was more into africa & middle east & india trips...)


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