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Offlined33p
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School Drug Raid
    #2080493 - 11/07/03 06:42 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Recently in i believe a south carolina school scores of cops raided a school as students were preparing to go to class. They forced all the kids down on the ground with guns drawn. They searched every backpack and handcuffed kids if they did not comply. And guess what they found? Jack shit.

Apparently the principle ordered this to happen to keep his school clean and nice. Since when is south carolina facist?

This happened not to long ago and i cant seem to find the story on the web so if you can find it post a link since the video of it is quite good.



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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: d33p]
    #2080510 - 11/07/03 06:49 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Also one thing i found funny was how parents were very angry how cops were pointing their guns at innocent kids.

One cop tried to rationalize it by saying they were holding their guns at a low and ready position. The only problem is that when you have everyone get on the ground you will be pointing at them. Stupid pigs.


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: d33p]
    #2080624 - 11/07/03 07:33 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

You know the deal,buddy: the constitution is null and void when dealing with drugs.

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Since when is south carolina facist?




Where have you been? The good ol' boy network doesn't look to kindly to dopers.


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: d33p]
    #2080626 - 11/07/03 07:35 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

The cops have come into our local schools and put everyone against the wall and searched their stuff before (no guns were drawn or even present). I was shocked when it happened because our local cops are generally pretty good guys (I've even smoked pot with a few of them) and we do not have any problems with drugs or violence (besides the standard juvenile stuff). I was disheartened when no one complained. I thought schools were for learning, but I guess not.


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: z@z.com]
    #2080639 - 11/07/03 07:38 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

The private school i attended was very lax on drugs. Afterall they wouldnt want to lose any of their $15,000 for tuition. They just had a k-9 unit come in about once a month who would sniff backpacks in classes. But they would only come in on tuesdays or thursdays and once a month so it was pretty much a joke.

What happened in south carolina, now that is ludacris.


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: d33p]
    #2080659 - 11/07/03 07:46 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Um....there was never a check for drugs in the 12 years I was in school (well 15 if you count college). Not one dog came through and I was not searced even once. Come to think of it I don't think anyone was ever searched without doing something really stupid first. There is no reason for a drug dog to come in and disturb classes. We never had any problems.


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: z@z.com]
    #2080674 - 11/07/03 07:51 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Well i went to a private school so they can basically do whatever the hell they want but didnt you just say in your previosu post your school was checked for drugs?


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: d33p]
    #2080677 - 11/07/03 07:52 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry, I must clarify. That happened after I left the school.


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: d33p]
    #2080684 - 11/07/03 07:56 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

they used to bring dogs in the school where i went and have them sniff around. they always found stuff.. that didn't keep 10% of the student body from coming in stoned every day though.


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: ]
    #2080711 - 11/07/03 08:06 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Well the dogs at my school would always bark at the cars in the parking lot infront of our school. probably due to kids hot boxing their cars before class.


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: d33p]
    #2080848 - 11/07/03 08:54 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

This is why I say that 'public education' is a misnomer, the proper term is 'public indoctrination.' These kids are going to grow up being taught this kind of government behavior is commonplace, normal and perfectly acceptable. THAT is what public education is all about, making good little compliant citizens, real education is often given second tier status to 'socialization.' God forbid we should teach children use reason or to question.


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: Evolving]
    #2080964 - 11/07/03 09:32 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

indeed.


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: Evolving]
    #2081154 - 11/07/03 10:34 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Definately conditioning rather than education. :thumbdown:


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: Azmodeus]
    #2081167 - 11/07/03 10:38 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

This is why I say that 'public education' is a misnomer, the proper term is 'public indoctrination.' These kids are going to grow up being taught this kind of government behavior is commonplace, normal and perfectly acceptable. THAT is what public education is all about, making good little compliant citizens, real education is often given second tier status to 'socialization.' God forbid we should teach children use reason or to question.




well, there's something we agree on at least.


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: d33p]
    #2081363 - 11/07/03 11:51 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)



http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/11/07/national/main582492.shtml

Gun-toting police burst into a South Carolina high school, ordering students to lie down in hall ways as they searched for drugs. The commando-style raid has parents questioning the wisdom of police tactics.

The raid occurred Wednesday at Stratford High School in Goose Creek, S.C. Surveillance video obtained by CBS Affiliate WCSC in Charleston shows the police waving their guns and searching lockers as students lie flat on their stomachs or sides.

The school's principal defends the dramatic sweep, caught on the school's surveillance tape. Police came into the school with guns at the ready, ordered all students to lie on the floor and then handcuffed anyone who apparently didn't comply quickly enough.

"We received reports from staff members and students that there was a lot of drug activity. Recently we busted a student for having over 300 plus prescription pills. The volume and the amount of marijuana coming into the school is unacceptable," said principal George McCrackin.

Police didn't find any criminals in the armed sweep, but they say K-9 dogs smelled drugs on a dozen backpacks. Goose Creek police and school administrators defend the draconian measures as necessary for crime prevention.

The parents of some students who were subjected to the sweep disagree.

"I was just upset knowing they had guns put to their head and a K9 was barking at them and about to bite somebody. It was awful," parent Latonia Simmons told WCSC.

The Post And Courier newspaper in Charleston reports the high school is one of the largest in the state with 2,760 students. It has an academic reputation as one of the Lowcountry's best.

The paper quoted Lt. Dave Aarons of the Goose Creek Police Department as saying that the suspected drug dealers appeared to be knowledgeable about where the school surveillance cameras were. He said he watched school surveillance tapes from four days that showed students congregating under cameras, periodically walking into a bathroom with different students and coming out moments later.

"They know where the cameras are. If they stand directly under them, the camera's don't look directly down,'' Aarons told the paper.


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: Observer]
    #2081415 - 11/08/03 12:14 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: Observer]
    #2081473 - 11/08/03 12:44 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

i wonder what would have happened if someone had gotten shot.


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: d33p]
    #2081652 - 11/08/03 01:52 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Holy Shit! I am for keeping drugs out of schools...but Jesus Christ.
That's draconian to say the least.


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #2081763 - 11/08/03 02:25 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

It's okay, it's okay... it is FOR THE CHILDREN, it's okay.


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: d33p]
    #2081771 - 11/08/03 02:30 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

won't somebody think of the children?!


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: afoaf]
    #2081999 - 11/08/03 03:52 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: Observer]
    #2082930 - 11/08/03 10:02 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

This is ghey.

I wish someone would get off their ass and campaign against the drug war. Middle america doesnt want it, us druggies dont want it..

Fuck.

I would have went so ballistic if that would have happened to me. When I was that young, I still thought you had a voice.


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #2082941 - 11/08/03 10:08 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I hope that school and police department gets the shit sued out of them.

Were the guns really fuckin' necessary? What if a kid did have some drugs? Was he going to launch a marijuana rocket? Jesus fuckin' christ shit like this pisses me off.


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: monoamine]
    #2082963 - 11/08/03 10:18 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Drugs, the other WMD.


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #2082976 - 11/08/03 10:32 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Has anyone noticed that Americas war on drugs is alot like the Holocaust.


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #2083065 - 11/08/03 11:55 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

http://www.msnbc.com/news/990598.asp?0dm=C23AN&cp1=1

Here is a video report on the raid. NBC does not really report anything new, but they do show about 30 seconds worth of surveillance footage.

The current state of the war on drugs is appalling to say the least.


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: manuscript]
    #2083097 - 11/08/03 12:22 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

i would have ran away, knowing that i wouldnt have been stupidenough to have any drugs on me at school, hoping to get shot so i could make a point, but i guess all of those kids just dont have the balls.


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #2083100 - 11/08/03 12:26 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

It is kind of like a holocost, mostly because they are trying to exterminate a culture that is an integral part of it.


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #2083493 - 11/08/03 06:19 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)


Has anyone noticed that Americas war on drugs is alot like the
Holocaust


Well....at least we don't get our heads chopped off if we get caught
with drugs(that's what happens in Saudi Arabia). But still,
that whole episode in that school was sickening.


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: manuscript]
    #2084944 - 11/09/03 04:19 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I dont know if anyone here is in my same age group. But when I was young Nancy was urging us to SAY NO TO DRUGS and MacGruff the crime dog put on shows for us once a week. Then they turned our citizenry into prisoners.

Link: http://www.ephidrina.org/cannabis/drugswar.html

"In 1983, a program called Drug Abuse Resistance Education (DARE) was initiated in schools all over the United States. Propaganda alleging untrue and unproven health effects was fed to schoolchildren, and students were encouraged to become police informants, passing information to the authorities about their friends' and families' drug habits. At the same time, the Reagan/Bush Administration quietly instructed American universities to destroy all research work into cannabis, undertaken between 1966 and 1976."
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"Under Reagan, the federal prison population doubled. Young offenders and non-violent drug users were sent to "Special Alternative Incarceration" boot camps, where they were brainwashed with yet more anti-drug propaganda, to undermine their subversive attitudes. The President declared the War on Drugs to be one of the major achievements of his administration, while the international narcotics trade thrived and cannabis prices sky-rocketed."


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"In 1998 the CIA finally admitted to its involvement in drug trafficking in the United States after years of federal investigation by the Kerry Congressional Committee. What the CIA admitted to was allowing cocaine trafficking to take place by Contras who were being supported by the CIA, using facilities and resources supplied by the US government, and preventing investigation into these activities by other agencies. This was done because funds for the support of militant groups in South America had been withdrawn by Congress so the CIA allowed the Contras to engage in the drug trade in the United States in order to make money to fund their military operations.

These are hard facts. The CIA was forced to publish the information by the Congressional Committee when they were found of wrongdoing. You can find the official CIA version of the story here:

http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/cocaine/overview/index.html
http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/cocaine/report/index.html
http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/cocaine/index.html

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I like how those links are just subtly different and it's all the same topic. They like to hide information on the web, or so it seems. It just seems that now, our government doesnt know who the terrorists are and who the citizens should be.




I wonder if these kids are going to be sent into the war machines, and this is how they will start doing it


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #2086623 - 11/09/03 10:45 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:


Has anyone noticed that Americas war on drugs is alot like the
Holocaust




I have often seen the war on Drugs as a kind of genocide.

Basically, the governments of the world have decided that certain species of life are inconvenient to our society and therefore must be eliminated. I shudder to think of a world in which pot, mushrooms and other naturally occuring psychedelics are extinct due to a worldwide government campaign to eradicate them.

As unlikely as that scenario is, Its exactly what they are trying to do and their success is a scary possibility.


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2086699 - 11/09/03 11:20 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Its exactly what they are trying to do and their success is a scary possibility.




Humans have been getting high since the dawn of Homo sapiens.

They better get started. They have billions of naturally occuring plants to get rid of.


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: d33p]
    #2098379 - 11/13/03 03:09 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Thats why i homeschool my kids.If they are going to learn some crazy ass doctrine,It might as well be mine.


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Re: School Drug Raid [Re: shroomophile]
    #2099053 - 11/13/03 06:07 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

If a cop ever did that to me he'd wish he was able to shoot me after I was done grilling him.. Also I think if a person point's a gun at someone for no reason then that person has the right to use deadly force to protect themselves.. At least that's what they taught me while I was taking martial art's.. Where's Steven Segal when you need him..


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