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Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him
    #20797754 - 11/05/14 07:11 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Another breaking story brought to you by Police State USA

http://theantimedia.org/mother-calls-police-to-help-her-son-take-his-medicine/

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October 29, 2014

(TheAntiMedia) In Gretna, Florida, Juanita Donald called the police to come assist her and get her 24 year old son to take his medication, as she had done in the past.

On Tuesday morning, around 9:30 am, she called the police to help her with her son Kaldrick Donald and one officer showed up, Sergeant Charles Brown.

Charles Brown ended up tasing Kaldrick Donald repeatedly, and then took him into the isolated bathroom in the family’s house and shot him multiple times, killing him.

Brown murdered Donald in the presence his pregnant sister and mother, and no one can even say why. He was completely unarmed, and somehow not completely sane.

His mother said “I heard my baby say, I want my mama after he shot him, and then I didn’t hear anything else.”

His mother said she was “expecting them to take him to the Apalachee Center like before”, but instead a single officer came and escalated the situation, murdering him in front of his family.

Juanita continued to say “It wasn’t but one officer. Instead of him calling for backup, he took things in his own hands and he goes in the house and he rush him and shoot him.”

She continued to say he “didn’t want to be bothered”, and that he simply walked away from the officer.

She says Sergeant Charles Brown “Just grabbed him and he tased him. Then when he grabbed him and tased him, he rushed my son off in the bathroom and I heard three shots. I was like, you shot my son and he was like, I had to. I said, no, you didn’t have to.”

Charles Brown is now on ‘administrative leave’, or paid vacation, and if this story doesn’t blow up then this officer surely will see no charges.

The Gretna Police Chief had a bland statement to give,

    “Our thoughts and prayers are with the family. Since the investigation began, we have asked the Gadsden County Sheriff’s Office as well as the Florida Department of Law Enforcement to assist us.”

Will this officer ever be charged for murder, or anything?

This is a breaking story; only a few local news reports have been made about the incident so far and they received little attention, so this article will serve to expose this crime and be the first step in holding this person accountable.

This is so deeply immoral, a person simply cannot get away with doing this because they are authorized by the state to use deadly force. Few people know this happened yet, except for people in the city of Gretna Florida. I ask that you share this information with absolutely as many people as possible.

Only by spreading word about incidents like this can we hold these authorities accountable for the crimes they commit, and stop things like this from happening by letting these killer cops know they will face consequences.

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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Shroomism] * 1
    #20797765 - 11/05/14 07:14 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

The cop deserves the death penalty.  Watch him get a paid vacation.


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Shroomism]
    #20797773 - 11/05/14 07:15 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

white cop kills black kid...........


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Shroomism] * 1
    #20797780 - 11/05/14 07:16 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

news like this make me wanna go on a cop murdering rampage


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: AIRDOG]
    #20797803 - 11/05/14 07:21 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: AIRDOG] * 1
    #20797806 - 11/05/14 07:21 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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AIRDOG said:
news like this make me wanna go on a cop murdering rampage



QFT

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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: AIRDOG]
    #20797827 - 11/05/14 07:24 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Just wow.


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: SARAtonin]
    #20797834 - 11/05/14 07:25 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: SARAtonin] * 1
    #20797849 - 11/05/14 07:29 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

I googled it.  I'd wait for a better source than those nutcases at AntiMedia before killing the cop.

The only good cop is a dead cop?  If it  wasn't for the police you would be owned by assholes like me.


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: SARAtonin]
    #20797855 - 11/05/14 07:30 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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news like this make me wanna go on a cop murdering rampage



QFT

But seriously...

Only good pig a dead pig.




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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Shroomism]
    #20797916 - 11/05/14 07:43 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: zappaisgod]
    #20797978 - 11/05/14 07:54 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:
I googled it.  I'd wait for a better source than those nutcases at AntiMedia before killing the cop.





You must not have looked very hard

http://www.wctv.tv/home/headlines/Man-Shot-Killed-by-Gretna-Police-Officer-280660612.html

The antimedia is a reliable source of information that is often blacklisted from mainstream media.

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Brown is currently on paid administrative leave.




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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Shroomism]
    #20797993 - 11/05/14 07:58 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

If the cop felt threatened he had the right to kill him.


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #20798000 - 11/05/14 08:00 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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I googled it.  I'd wait for a better source than those nutcases at AntiMedia before killing the cop.

The only good cop is a dead cop?  If it  wasn't for the police you would be owned by assholes like me.




You wouldn't be owned, we would just gather together and hire all those Italian mafiosos living in Staten Island to PWN you!!!! And pay them with BITCOINS, bitch!!!!! Pure anonymity!!!! :lolsy:


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Bitter Cactus] * 1
    #20798026 - 11/05/14 08:03 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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If the cop felt threatened he had the right to kill him.



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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Shroomism]
    #20798032 - 11/05/14 08:05 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Fucking despicable


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Sheekle]
    #20798038 - 11/05/14 08:07 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

There are two sides to every story.


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #20798046 - 11/05/14 08:08 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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If the cop felt threatened he had the right to kill him.




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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #20798075 - 11/05/14 08:14 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Wow reading that made me seriously disgusted. Unfornately police brutality has become so common that i've become somewhat desensitized to it but this one really struck a nerve. Something needs to be done about this. We should start a riot.


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Shroomism]
    #20798083 - 11/05/14 08:16 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

zappaisgod said:
I googled it.  I'd wait for a better source than those nutcases at AntiMedia before killing the cop.





You must not have looked very hard

http://www.wctv.tv/home/headlines/Man-Shot-Killed-by-Gretna-Police-Officer-280660612.html

The antimedia is a reliable source of information that is often blacklisted from mainstream media.

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Brown is currently on paid administrative leave.




Typical.




I saw that one.  It didn't say anything.  They always put cops involved in shooting on leave.  There is no information there.  The mainstream media is heavily invested in making cops look like assholes.  If you think they cover for cops you are nuts.


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Shroomism]
    #20798101 - 11/05/14 08:19 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Another breaking story brought to you by Police State USA

http://theantimedia.org/mother-calls-police-to-help-her-son-take-his-medicine/

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Cassius Methyl
October 29, 2014

(TheAntiMedia) In Gretna, Florida, Juanita Donald called the police to come assist her and get her 24 year old son to take his medication, as she had done in the past.

Charles Brown ended up tasing Kaldrick Donald repeatedly, and then took him into the isolated bathroom in the family’s house and shot him multiple times, killing him.

Brown murdered Donald in the presence his pregnant sister and mother, and no one can even say why. He was completely unarmed, and somehow not completely sane.









did everyone go into the bathroom

why do people call the cops for shit like this, cops arent there to handle
mentally ill people, that's what hospitals are for, thanks to obamacare
people like kaldrick donald can be committed and cared for by the state


oh wait... in 2010 hundreds of state run mental institutions were closed


and not a single person complaining that the mother called the cops on her
son like they would typically do if the guy was simply arrested


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Crystal G]
    #20798103 - 11/05/14 08:19 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

zappaisgod said:
I googled it.  I'd wait for a better source than those nutcases at AntiMedia before killing the cop.

The only good cop is a dead cop?  If it  wasn't for the police you would be owned by assholes like me.




You wouldn't be owned, we would just gather together and hire all those Italian mafiosos living in Staten Island to PWN you!!!! And pay them with BITCOINS, bitch!!!!! Pure anonymity!!!! :lolsy:



You think I don't have Staten Island Goombas of my own?  If only we could go at it, you and me and anarchy.  Sweet music.  You know what I would make you do when I won?  Clean.


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: zappaisgod]
    #20798105 - 11/05/14 08:19 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Quote:

Shroomism said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
I googled it.  I'd wait for a better source than those nutcases at AntiMedia before killing the cop.





You must not have looked very hard

http://www.wctv.tv/home/headlines/Man-Shot-Killed-by-Gretna-Police-Officer-280660612.html

The antimedia is a reliable source of information that is often blacklisted from mainstream media.

Quote:

Brown is currently on paid administrative leave.




Typical.




I saw that one.  It didn't say anything.  They always put cops involved in shooting on leave.  There is no information there.  The mainstream media is heavily invested in making cops look like assholes.  If you think they cover for cops you are nuts.




Exactly. That article is biased to cop hate.


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: zappaisgod]
    #20798121 - 11/05/14 08:21 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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You think I don't have Staten Island Goombas of my own?  If only we could go at it, you and me and anarchy.  Sweet music.  You know what I would make you do when I won?  Clean.




Noooooooooo, how did you know there's nothing more I hate than cleaning!!!!!! :rofl2:

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    #20798194 - 11/05/14 08:36 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

zappaisgod said:
You think I don't have Staten Island Goombas of my own?  If only we could go at it, you and me and anarchy.  Sweet music.  You know what I would make you do when I won?  Clean.




Noooooooooo, how did you know there's nothing more I hate than cleaning!!!!!! :rofl2:




You are not the inscrutable Asian you think you are.  Same way I know you are a secret sub.  It would be a double bonus for me since you would hate it but you are probably incredibly good at it.  I won't make you wear anything too silly.
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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #20798429 - 11/05/14 09:18 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

Shroomism said:
Another breaking story brought to you by Police State USA

http://theantimedia.org/mother-calls-police-to-help-her-son-take-his-medicine/

Quote:


Cassius Methyl
October 29, 2014

(TheAntiMedia) In Gretna, Florida, Juanita Donald called the police to come assist her and get her 24 year old son to take his medication, as she had done in the past.

Charles Brown ended up tasing Kaldrick Donald repeatedly, and then took him into the isolated bathroom in the family’s house and shot him multiple times, killing him.

Brown murdered Donald in the presence his pregnant sister and mother, and no one can even say why. He was completely unarmed, and somehow not completely sane.









did everyone go into the bathroom

why do people call the cops for shit like this, cops arent there to handle
mentally ill people, that's what hospitals are for, thanks to obamacare
people like kaldrick donald can be committed and cared for by the state


oh wait... in 2010 hundreds of state run mental institutions were closed


and not a single person complaining that the mother called the cops on her
son like they would typically do if the guy was simply arrested





Who gives a single flying fuck WHAT happened in the bathroom. The kid was dragged in there UNARMED by the cop, tazed and then shot three times, killing him. I don't give a fuck if he struggled, or called the cop a cuntwaffle or tried to defend himself, there is no justification for lethal force. He KNEW he was responding to a call from a mother concerned about her mentally ill son that wouldn't take his medication. And yes let's just blame the mother for calling the cops in the first place :rolleyes: She says she's done it in the past and they took him to the mental institution or whatever. 

While yes, it's stupid for people to call the cops for situations like this, They clearly can't handle mentally ill people.. I don't agree with it.. they DO anyway, that does NOT justify a cop dragging a mentally ill kid in the bathroom and executing him. Which is what this was, an execution. Murder.
He did not pose ANY sort of threat to the cop. I don't see how you people can seriously be defending the actions of this cop and trying to justify it somehow. That's fucking disgusting.

But this is just par for the course.

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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Shroomism]
    #20798442 - 11/05/14 09:20 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Pris is going crazy lately. First he bans Burke for 8 months without good reason and now he's defending some psycho killer cop.


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Shroomism]
    #20798528 - 11/05/14 09:38 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Who gives a single flying fuck WHAT happened in the bathroom. The kid was dragged in there UNARMED by the cop, tazed and then shot three times, killing him.




so you dont care what actually happened, you care only that a cop shot
someone and now of course, despite what the truth is, want to see the
cop fry... the kid was tased before the bathroom according to your
article


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I don't give a fuck if he struggled, or called the cop a cuntwaffle or tried to defend himself, there is no justification for lethal force.





how do you know there was no justification, right, because the truth
doesnt matter here, it doesnt matter if the guy pulled a straight razor
from the vanity drawer and tried to kill the cop, according to you there
is no justification for lethal force dispite the fact that you only have
the story of the family to go on. the same family that was clearly calling
the police because a violently mentally ill man wasnt taking the meds that
kept him from being violent

really, no justification for lethal force from a cop, is this something
that applies in every situation such as a couple of armed bank robbers
that took a hostage, shot at the police more than 100 times during a high
speed chase jeopardizing hundreds of lives

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He KNEW he was responding to a call from a mother concerned about her mentally ill son that wouldn't take his medication. And yes let's just blame the mother for calling the cops in the first place :rolleyes: She says she's done it in the past and they took him to the mental institution or whatever.




the police arent there to settle family arguments, if someone refuses to
do work around the house should we expect the cops to respond, no, there's
certainly a lot more to this story such as this guy being violent, if it
was as simple as taking meds and the guy saying "but mom, I dont wanna" do
you really believe his mother would call the police?



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While yes, it's stupid for people to call the cops for situations like this, They clearly can't handle mentally ill people.. I don't agree with it.. they DO anyway, that does NOT justify a cop dragging a mentally ill kid in the bathroom and executing him. Which is what this was, an execution.




once more, you already stated you dont give a fuck about the truth


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He did not pose ANY sort of threat to the cop. I don't see how you people can seriously be defending the actions of this cop and trying to justify it somehow. That's fucking disgusting.





were you in that bathroom?


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    #20798552 - 11/05/14 09:43 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Shroomism said:
Who gives a single flying fuck WHAT happened in the bathroom. The kid was dragged in there UNARMED by the cop, tazed and then shot three times, killing him.




so you dont care what actually happened, you care only that a cop shot
someone and now of course, despite what the truth is, want to see the
cop fry... the kid was tased before the bathroom according to your
article


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I don't give a fuck if he struggled, or called the cop a cuntwaffle or tried to defend himself, there is no justification for lethal force.





how do you know there was no justification, right, because the truth
doesnt matter here, it doesnt matter if the guy pulled a straight razor
from the vanity drawer and tried to kill the cop, according to you there
is no justification for lethal force dispite the fact that you only have
the story of the family to go on. the same family that was clearly calling
the police because a violently mentally ill man wasnt taking the meds that
kept him from being violent

really, no justification for lethal force from a cop, is this something
that applies in every situation such as a couple of armed bank robbers
that took a hostage, shot at the police more than 100 times during a high
speed chase jeopardizing hundreds of lives

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He KNEW he was responding to a call from a mother concerned about her mentally ill son that wouldn't take his medication. And yes let's just blame the mother for calling the cops in the first place :rolleyes: She says she's done it in the past and they took him to the mental institution or whatever.




the police arent there to settle family arguments, if someone refuses to
do work around the house should we expect the cops to respond, no, there's
certainly a lot more to this story such as this guy being violent, if it
was as simple as taking meds and the guy saying "but mom, I dont wanna" do
you really believe his mother would call the police?



Quote:

While yes, it's stupid for people to call the cops for situations like this, They clearly can't handle mentally ill people.. I don't agree with it.. they DO anyway, that does NOT justify a cop dragging a mentally ill kid in the bathroom and executing him. Which is what this was, an execution.




once more, you already stated you dont give a fuck about the truth


Quote:

He did not pose ANY sort of threat to the cop. I don't see how you people can seriously be defending the actions of this cop and trying to justify it somehow. That's fucking disgusting.





were you in that bathroom?




I agree, there is more to the story that meets the eye.

I am gonna side with the cop for his decision based on the fact the story presented makes no sense. That kid would have had to do something for the cop to react that way. He was mentally ill and something more was going on then what the story portrays.


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: zappaisgod]
    #20798575 - 11/05/14 09:47 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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I saw that one.  It didn't say anything.  They always put cops involved in shooting on leave.  There is no information there.  The mainstream media is heavily invested in making cops look like assholes.  If you think they cover for cops you are nuts.




By: WCTV Eyewitness News
October 28, 2014

GRETNA, Fla. -- The Gadsden County Sheriff’s Office says that a Gretna Police Officer shot and killed a man while responding to a Baker Act call earlier this morning.

The incident happened on Cornelius Harris lane.

24-year-old Kaldrick Donald's mother told WCTV that she called police to help her with her son because he hadn't taken his medicine. She also said that she expected them to take him to the Apalachee Center like they normally do.

She was in the house along with her pregnant daughter during the incident.

Gretna's police chief says the officer is in the hospital and in stable condition and authorities say he was not shot. A GCSO spokesperson wouldn't say what caused the officer to shoot.

Gretna Police, GCSO and FDLE are currently investigating.

WCTV is at the scene and will update this story as more information becomes available.


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    #20798578 - 11/05/14 09:48 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

This is deeply disturbing to me.


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    #20798585 - 11/05/14 09:49 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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k00laid said:
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zappaisgod said:
I saw that one.  It didn't say anything.  They always put cops involved in shooting on leave.  There is no information there.  The mainstream media is heavily invested in making cops look like assholes.  If you think they cover for cops you are nuts.




By: WCTV Eyewitness News
October 28, 2014

GRETNA, Fla. -- The Gadsden County Sheriff’s Office says that a Gretna Police Officer shot and killed a man while responding to a Baker Act call earlier this morning.

The incident happened on Cornelius Harris lane.

24-year-old Kaldrick Donald's mother told WCTV that she called police to help her with her son because he hadn't taken his medicine. She also said that she expected them to take him to the Apalachee Center like they normally do.

She was in the house along with her pregnant daughter during the incident.

Gretna's police chief says the officer is in the hospital and in stable condition
and authorities say he was not shot. A GCSO spokesperson wouldn't say what caused the officer to shoot.

Gretna Police, GCSO and FDLE are currently investigating.

WCTV is at the scene and will update this story as more information becomes available.


it says plenty.




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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Shroomism]
    #20798607 - 11/05/14 09:53 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

THe mother is the one to blame.

She called the cops. At this point she becomes responsible for everything that happens.


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: k00laid]
    #20798628 - 11/05/14 09:55 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

It says nothing


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: zappaisgod]
    #20798657 - 11/05/14 10:00 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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It says nothing





it says the cop is in the hospital in stable condition and that he was not shot

it shows that there is far more to it that the mother's side of events


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #20798709 - 11/05/14 10:07 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Just to be contrarian to your position, which I support by the way, It could be because he is in trauma because he shot an innocent man.

Between the two articles there is not one bit of useful information to ascertain whether it was a righteous shoot or a cold blooded murder or an accident or anything.


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    #20798717 - 11/05/14 10:09 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Yes let's come up with every justification for murder possible.
Clearly whenever a cop kills someone, they are completely 100% justified automatically, regardless of the situation.


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Shroomism]
    #20798723 - 11/05/14 10:10 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

I don't see anybody saying that but I sure do see you saying the opposite


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Shroomism]
    #20798759 - 11/05/14 10:17 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Yes let's come up with every justification for murder possible.
Clearly whenever a cop kills someone, they are completely 100% justified automatically, regardless of the situation.





you seem to take just the opposite view and have plainly stated that you
dont give a rats ass what actually happened, that there could be no
justification for this shooting

I have not claimed the cop was justified, I certainly havent seen anything
other than some heavily biased 'news' source that gives a grieving mother's
side of things where she says things such as 'he just wanted to be left
alone", now if that were the case then why would she have called the cops,
cops arent babysitters, they arent family councilors or psychiatrists. they
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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #20798768 - 11/05/14 10:18 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

You're absolutely right, cops are killers for the most part. That's why you don't call them to deal with mentally ill people.

Again, doesn't justify SHIT. "To serve and protect". Not "To kill anyone". He has a radio, he could have called the right people. They are public servants. But no instead, he decided to murder him instead.

This isn't anything new though. Cops do this all the time, and get away with it.

The kid was unarmed. He had no justification for lethal force, none whatsoever.


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Shroomism]
    #20798885 - 11/05/14 10:43 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Are you fucking me dude? This mom was too god damn scared of her own kid because he is mentally ill and violent to the point she has to call the cops to DRAG HIM to a mental hospital.

Why couldn't she do it? Because her son was violent and he has a history of violence.

Man, you sure do shit talk cops and act like every one of them are the same. You act so fucking hard on somebody just doing their job. You'd probably fucking shoot him too when he attacked you. You think the mom is telling the whole story? You think she wasn't afraid of her own kid?


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Shroomism]
    #20798890 - 11/05/14 10:45 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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The kid was unarmed. He had no justification for lethal force, none whatsoever.






sorry, what went on in that bathroom again?


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    #20798979 - 11/05/14 11:01 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Something probably happened in the bathroom....but come on, that cop was probably too trigger-happy.


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    #20798985 - 11/05/14 11:02 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Something probably happened in the bathroom....





what do you suspect could have happened?


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #20799005 - 11/05/14 11:05 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

It isn't the polices job to escort a mentally deranged man repeatedly to the mental ward. If his mother thought he wasn't a threat then why didn't she take him herself?

I find it weird people are blaming the cop instead of asking why the mother expected a delivery service of her son instead of her taking him.


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #20799043 - 11/05/14 11:11 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Something probably happened in the bathroom....





what do you suspect could have happened?




Like you said, the kid very likely could have grabbed a razor or something of that sort. But in a confined space like a bathroom, a cop should be able to take down a person, sure maybe he would have been cut a bit but no way enough to seriously harm him. He has a tazer, maybe some pepper spray on him, and supposedly adequate training.

Unless the kid had brought an actual knife with him which was in his pants or something, I just can't see how a cop can't bring him down without using deadly force.


and who cares why the mother didn't take her son himself. The fact is a police offer showed up. Without the guy having a gun, the cop should be good enough at his job to take down the subject without deadly force (especially going into the situation KNOWING the subject was mentally ill).


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: TheMule73]
    #20799090 - 11/05/14 11:22 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Are you saying that if you were a cop, you would all of the sudden become a fighting master and that if a grown man started to attack you in a confined space you could keep your calm and wits about you, you could take him down no problem without hurting him or having yourself injured?

It seems like he tazed the guy after he attacked him and it still did not bring the guy down. Do you really think pepper spray is going to stop a mentally ill man in a confined space in a rage?

Have you seen videos of people being pepper sprayed who are violent? Did it stop them? A lot of the times it doesn't stop them.

You are assuming he didn't use alternatives first and it sounds like he sure did.

It is NOT the responsibility of the cops to deal with mentally deranged people. If they get violent, they are treated the same way as anyone else and in fact they should be even more cautious with them. If the mentally ill man would not listen to his mom, do you think he was going to comply with the officer? No.


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Uzziel]
    #20799126 - 11/05/14 11:32 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Uzziel said:
Are you saying that if you were a cop, you would all of the sudden become a fighting master and that if a grown man started to attack you in a confined space you could keep your calm and wits about you, you could take him down no problem without hurting him or having yourself injured?

It seems like he tazed the guy after he attacked him and it still did not bring the guy down. Do you really think pepper spray is going to stop a mentally ill man in a confined space in a rage?

Have you seen videos of people being pepper sprayed who are violent? Did it stop them? A lot of the times it doesn't stop them.

You are assuming he didn't use alternatives first and it sounds like he sure did.

It is NOT the responsibility of the cops to deal with mentally deranged people. If they get violent, they are treated the same way as anyone else and in fact they should be even more cautious with them. If the mentally ill man would not listen to his mom, do you think he was going to comply with the officer? No.




I've actually had to restrain and work with violent mentally ill people, and although it can be dangerous and quite a handful there was never any acceptable reason to harm the person being dealt with. I agree the officer should never of been there, but he also should never have approached the situation alone and short of him having his life directly in danger (the man arming himself with a knife and attempting to use it for instance) should never have used lethal force on a mentally unwell man.


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: PureMadness]
    #20799154 - 11/05/14 11:38 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this cop didn't do something wrong. He probably did. The matter of the fact is, is that there is far too little evidence for us to go on and the families testimony is pretty shaky.

I don't know proper protocol for police men on dealing with mentally ill whether or not they call for back up, but you don't call the police unless it's serious.


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Uzziel]
    #20799174 - 11/05/14 11:45 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, cops should just kill everyone and are ALWAYS justified for it. I get down on cops because they kill innocent people ALL THE FUCKING TIME.
My good friend in high school was shot dead.. in the back by a cop, just for walking away from him.. he didn't commit any crime. Cop got let off, never saw a day of jail, still is on the force.

Same exact thing that's going to happen here more than likely. Because it's the same fucking story, over and fucking over. Cops get away with murder. ALL THE FUCKING TIME. And then toolbags want to come to their defense and say they were justified for it.
Regardless of if the cops should have been called or not. You guys act like because it's not a "cop situation" that he's justified in murdering someone?
Cops are supposed to be professionals, they are public servants, they are supposed to handle all kinds of situations, if they can't handle something they should be calling for backup or calling someone that is trained to handle a mentally ill person. You don't just murder people you don't know how to deal with. Unless you are a cop, of course. Because of course.. that's the best way to deal with it. Just kill the fucker, because you don't like them or want to be there.
Hey.. you'll get away with it.. and people will BLINDLY back you up.. so why not. Just kill all the undesireables.

Yeah, there's a few good cops here and there. But the bad apples ruin the whole fucking batch.


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Uzziel]
    #20799189 - 11/05/14 11:48 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this cop didn't do something wrong. He probably did. The matter of the fact is, is that there is far too little evidence for us to go on and the families testimony is pretty shaky.

I don't know proper protocol for police men on dealing with mentally ill whether or not they call for back up, but you don't call the police unless it's serious.




Oh I definitely agree, far far too little evidence to make a informed decision. I will admit I'm biased but I'm not going to guess as to what happened in the bathroom with such little evidence.


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: PureMadness]
    #20799195 - 11/05/14 11:50 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Here is another point of view you never hear on this story.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20799166


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    #20799207 - 11/05/14 11:52 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Why was the kid tasered and dragged into the bathroom in the first place? He pulled the kid in there so he could shoot him without being seen. Duh. Police 101, minimize the chance of cameras whenever possible, that way there can be plausible deniability.. "Oh he struggled and pulled a knife on me". No witnesses makes for perfect murders, especially when you have a badge. Shit even when you have witnesses and video evidence, they usually get off.


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    #20799231 - 11/05/14 11:59 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

I doubt the testimony is entirely accurate to begin with. None of it even makes sense.

"He just grabbed him, tazed him, then dragged and shot him."

I HIGHLY doubt it went down like that.


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    #20799246 - 11/06/14 12:03 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Wouldn't surprise me in the least. I saw an undercover cop shoot a 16 year old kid in the back for telling him to fuck off and walking away from him.


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    #20799265 - 11/06/14 12:07 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Of course it wouldn't.... you've made it quite clear you're a cop hater no matter the circumstance. It sucks about your friend but not all cops are like that.

The matter of the fact is, there aren't enough facts here

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    #20799270 - 11/06/14 12:08 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Of course it wouldn't.... you've made it quite clear you're a cop hater no matter the circumstance. It sucks about your friend but not all cops are like that.

The matter of the fact is, there aren't enough facts here

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    #20799311 - 11/06/14 12:18 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

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Something probably happened in the bathroom....





what do you suspect could have happened?




Like you said, the kid very likely could have grabbed a razor or something of that sort. But in a confined space like a bathroom, a cop should be able to take down a person, sure maybe he would have been cut a bit but no way enough to seriously harm him. He has a tazer, maybe some pepper spray on him, and supposedly adequate training.




so you're saying that the cop should risk his life trying to subdue
someone instead of exercising the same rights any american has, the
right to protect his own life. if the femoral artery gets cut you
bleed out in a little over a minute, same with the carotid artery.
you have a couple, maybe 3 minutes before you bleed out it the
brachial artery is cut. neither of the 3 are protected by kevlar
vests. all 3 can easily be cut by someone with a straight razor



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Unless the kid had brought an actual knife with him which was in his pants or something, I just can't see how a cop can't bring him down without using deadly force.





mentally ill people do a lot of weird shit, violent, paranoid mentally ill
people do things such as hide weapons all over the house, he;;, people we
may consider to be sane, not always rational but sane, sometimes do the
same shit, you can see it in the prepper shows

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and who cares why the mother didn't take her son himself. The fact is a police offer showed up. Without the guy having a gun, the cop should be good enough at his job to take down the subject without deadly force (especially going into the situation KNOWING the subject was mentally ill).




we dont know what he had, we do know he was mentally ill, the reason his
mother called is pretty important based on the fact that there had been
prior calls for the same thing. hell, for all we know this guy planned his
death at the hands of the cops knowing his mom would call yet again

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Wouldn't surprise me in the least. I saw an undercover cop shoot a 16 year old kid in the back for telling him to fuck off and walking away from him.





that would be an article worth reading


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #20799328 - 11/06/14 12:23 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Something probably happened in the bathroom....





what do you suspect could have happened?




Like you said, the kid very likely could have grabbed a razor or something of that sort. But in a confined space like a bathroom, a cop should be able to take down a person, sure maybe he would have been cut a bit but no way enough to seriously harm him. He has a tazer, maybe some pepper spray on him, and supposedly adequate training.




so you're saying that the cop should risk his life trying to subdue
someone




He should have risked his life instead of taking another's life, yes. That's his job, to protect and serve the public, not himself.


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: TheMule73]
    #20799342 - 11/06/14 12:28 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

This just PROVES that they are not there to "serve and protect"

Instead of the cop trying to talk to the person, instead he gets angry because the guy turns his back and starts to walk away so he charges and attacks the guy and tasers him then drags him into the bathroom to shoot him three times close range.
This is even more a clear cut case of murder than the michael brown shooting.

Im never going to trust the police. Even encountering the police at all can lead to you being shot to death.


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #20799371 - 11/06/14 12:37 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

What did the cop do?


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Azure Essence]
    #20799416 - 11/06/14 12:47 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Killed a mentally ill person for no reason, in cold blood.


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Shroomism]
    #20799457 - 11/06/14 12:57 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

There's not much coverage of this incident.
I'm gonna take a wild guess that the victim wasn't
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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #20799513 - 11/06/14 01:10 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Here is another point of view you never hear on this story.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20799166





Lol, did you actually read it?  thats from like traffic accidents and shit, it doesn't say how many are murdered.

Last year 100 police officers died (including the traffic accidents and stuff), and police officers killed over 400 people.

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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: teamkiller]
    #20799522 - 11/06/14 01:14 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

It's more like 10:1, the 400 is just the "justifiable homicides" that the FBI reports on, they don't include the innocent people that are killed in that figure.


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Shroomism]
    #20799589 - 11/06/14 01:34 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

If this is all accurate that cop has some serious mental issues and I am speechless..

They do that shit to unwanted kiddy cats and even that's bad..





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Pris is going crazy lately. First he bans Burke




U mean TMZ? Thats his new nickname :lol: j/k


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Shroomism]
    #20799743 - 11/06/14 02:29 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Any kid who has a mother who forced him to take some bullshit medication is probably better off dead. He can be at peace now.


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Re: Mother Calls Police to Help Her Son Take His Medicine, Cop Shows Up and Shoots (Kills) Him [Re: Da2ra]
    #20799795 - 11/06/14 03:00 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, right on cause meds have never helped schizo's
or anything.


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