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OfflineTao
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If you could pass one amendment....
    #2078143 - 11/06/03 08:51 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

what would it be?

(please avoid repeats)


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Re: If you could pass one amendment.... [Re: Tao]
    #2078153 - 11/06/03 08:56 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

no citizen may be deprived of their freedom or property without first being convicted of doing likewise to another citizen.


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Re: If you could pass one amendment.... [Re: ]
    #2078160 - 11/06/03 08:59 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

^^^^lol, that was the only one that i absolutely predicted both author and amendment and it happened to be the first. Now that we got that out of the way, moving on...


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Re: If you could pass one amendment.... [Re: Tao]
    #2078174 - 11/06/03 09:05 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

yeah, the only problem would be 200 years later when politicians weren't respecting it or were getting creative with their definitions of words like "citizen", or "freedom", or "deprived".


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Re: If you could pass one amendment.... [Re: Tao]
    #2078195 - 11/06/03 09:12 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

see... you're asking for constructive answers here. you're asking for 'yes' suggestions. what SHOULD we do as opposed to what SHOUDN'T we do...

there's little room for bashing of george bush, the republican party, america, or capitalism... only for actual constructive suggestions... which is why i'm sorry if maybe i'm going to end up derailing this thread with this comment, but i don't think you'll get many on-topic responses anyway. we'll see.


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Re: If you could pass one amendment.... [Re: ]
    #2078200 - 11/06/03 09:13 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

mushmaster said:
yeah, the only problem would be 200 years later when politicians weren't respecting it or were getting creative with their definitions of words like "citizen", or "freedom", or "deprived".



That's why they love to call the constitution 'a living document.' It spares them from having to follow the intent as it was written. I'd like to get a home loan contract that was a 'living document,' then I could re-interpret it every few years to my benefit and screw the other parties to the contract.


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Edited by Evolving (11/06/03 09:15 PM)


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Re: If you could pass one amendment.... [Re: Evolving]
    #2078220 - 11/06/03 09:17 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

well... if your loan had clauses in it detailing the ways in which it would be altered and ammended, then maybe it would be a living document in the way that the constitution is...

what those politicians don't understand (or choose to ignore) is that the constitution is not "living document" in the sense that its text can be redefined or selectively observed depending on the times, but only that it can be amended if needed through a prescribed legislative process.

in any event, they do not abide by even the words of the constitution, much less the spirit, which is what's most important anyway.


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Re: If you could pass one amendment.... [Re: Evolving]
    #2078226 - 11/06/03 09:19 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD IT WAS THE MOST SIMPLITISTIC QUESTION AND ANSWER POST, CAN WE STAY ON TOPIC FOR LONGER THAN ONE FUCKING RESPONSE!?!











thank you


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Re: If you could pass one amendment.... [Re: Tao]
    #2078237 - 11/06/03 09:22 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

if you ask a libertarian what law they would make and they respond, a law against laws besides those governing protection, its hardly a surprising response.


once again, youve had youre say, now moving on....


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Re: If you could pass one amendment.... [Re: Tao]
    #2078249 - 11/06/03 09:24 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

No law shall be passed which prohibits an individual from consuming any substance, nor shall any individual be prohibited from possessing any substance which does not present a direct threat to other individuals.


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Re: If you could pass one amendment.... [Re: silversoul7]
    #2078254 - 11/06/03 09:27 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

would that conflict with laws against drinking and driving though?


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Re: If you could pass one amendment.... [Re: silversoul7]
    #2078256 - 11/06/03 09:28 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

what about manufacturing???


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Re: If you could pass one amendment.... [Re: Tao]
    #2078275 - 11/06/03 09:33 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Congress shall make no law.


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Re: If you could pass one amendment.... [Re: Tao]
    #2078281 - 11/06/03 09:34 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

TaoTeChing said:

(please avoid repeats)




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Re: If you could pass one amendment.... [Re: Tao]
    #2078295 - 11/06/03 09:38 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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TaoTeChing said:
would that conflict with laws against drinking and driving though?



Ok, so it needs some revising, but it's a rough draft, ok? But I don't think that law would conflict with drunk driving laws because those laws deal with what you do while on said substance, rather than what substances you can consume.


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Re: If you could pass one amendment.... [Re: Tao]
    #2078298 - 11/06/03 09:39 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Naturally occuring psychedelics shall be declared legal.


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Re: If you could pass one amendment.... [Re: Tao]
    #2078301 - 11/06/03 09:40 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

TaoTeChing asks:

would that conflict with laws against drinking and driving though?

You didn't ask about laws, you asked for proposed constitutional amendments. Silversoul7 gave you one.

You will notice there is no mention of drinking and driving in the Constitution. It is not against the law to get piss drunk and drive all you want on your own property. However, if you are to be given permission to drive on publicly-constructed streets which are publicly-owned property, one of the conditions that must be met is that you refrain from being intoxicated. Another is that you must have a valid driver's licence. You must also have valid insurance, a current vehicle plate, a vehicle that meets various safety and emission standards, etc.

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Re: If you could pass one amendment.... [Re: Phred]
    #2078314 - 11/06/03 09:45 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

would that conflict with laws against drinking and driving though?

You didn't ask about laws, you asked for proposed constitutional amendments. Silversoul7 gave you one.





yes but that amendment would supercede the laws so one would want to be careful.


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Re: If you could pass one amendment.... [Re: Phred]
    #2078326 - 11/06/03 09:48 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

pinksharkmark said:
It is not against the law to get piss drunk and drive all you want on your own property.



I may be mistaken, but I think it is illegial. Could be wrong so don't quote me on that.


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Re: If you could pass one amendment.... [Re: Tao]
    #2078333 - 11/06/03 09:50 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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TaoTeChing said:
Quote:

would that conflict with laws against drinking and driving though?

You didn't ask about laws, you asked for proposed constitutional amendments. Silversoul7 gave you one.





yes but that amendment would supercede the laws so one would want to be careful.



As I said, drunk driving laws prohibit certain activities while intoxicated. They have nothing to do with what one may consume.


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