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casing layer depth question
    #2077273 - 11/06/03 03:56 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I am going to be attempting my first few casings after having some success with the cakes method. I'm planning on doing one with plain verm and two with 60/40 verm/coir mix. I have baking pans that are 3 inches deep. What is the proper depth of each of the three layers to get a good pinset? The FAQ's suggest the casing layer should be 1/4 the depth of the substrate layer. But this does not include the actual layer of colonized cakes. Also, I have a few jars that are 1/4 pints instead of 1/2 pints. What would be the advantage of leaving them as whole cakes instead of crumbling them? And last, for a 60/40 casing, should the substrate (base layer) be plain verm or also use the 60/40 mix? OK, hope this wasn't too many questions

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Re: casing layer depth question [Re: mindfunk1]
    #2077459 - 11/06/03 05:03 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

>I have baking pans that are 3 inches deep. What is the proper depth of each of the three layers to get a good pinset?

you don't need 3 layers, 2 works fine. try 2 inches substrate plus 1/2 inch casing layer.

>Also, I have a few jars that are 1/4 pints instead of 1/2 pints. What would be the advantage of leaving them as whole cakes instead of crumbling them?

no advantage i can think of, except if it's your first go, you learn a lot i think from fruiting at least one cake in your career. teaches patience, myc appearance and contamination lessons 101  :lol:

>should the substrate (base layer) be plain verm or also use the 60/40 mix?

you don't need a bottom layer. if you want to use one, both are fine. remember, it can soak up drips, but it also can hide contams. 


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Re: casing layer depth question [Re: shirley knott]
    #2078469 - 11/06/03 10:26 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

thanks, Shirl!

how small should I crumble the substrate pieces? Will bigger chunks mean that it colonizes and recovers faster?

Also, any tips on avoiding contams? I think I loved my first casing to death and it fell victim to the green meanies. How do you check the progress of the mycelium without introducing contams?


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Re: casing layer depth question [Re: mindfunk1]
    #2081195 - 11/07/03 03:48 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: casing layer depth question [Re: mindfunk1]
    #2081202 - 11/07/03 03:51 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Marble-sized pieces. If it's too big it'll colonize unevenly.

To avoid contaminants, keep the humidity down, and fan/mist and keep the mycelium healthy. Don't overwater, and don't let pools of water collect anywhere. Healthy mycelium is a lot less prone to contamination than unhealthy mycelium.

All I can think of, right now.

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Re: casing layer depth question [Re: mindfunk1]
    #2081203 - 11/07/03 03:51 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I thought I knew everything I needed to about casing, but I guess I was wrong.

So there is no need to have a bottom casing layer? Is there any benefit to having it? I plan on crumbling three one pint PF style cakes, so my substrate will be pretty thick, but I thought the bottom casing layer was to provide more moisture?


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Re: casing layer depth question [Re: MycoCat]
    #2081206 - 11/07/03 03:52 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

No -- just to absorb extra water. You don't need it -- two each their own, but I think it's a good idea.

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Re: casing layer depth question [Re: micro]
    #2081208 - 11/07/03 03:54 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks.


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