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The Elegant Universe
    #2075924 - 11/06/03 03:28 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Tonight I watched a fascinating special on NOVA called The Elegant Universe, dealing with the string theory. I don't know if it will be airing again any time soon, but you can watch it online here. After my last few mushroom trips and the train of thought I've been in recently, I was pleasantly surprised to see this program. It tied a lot of things together for me personally, not to mention the beautiful special effects (although the dialogue was hokey at times...).

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/


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Re: The Elegant Universe [Re: adrug]
    #2075932 - 11/06/03 03:35 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

sweet :thumbup: thanks for the link friend - I am going to watch it in my free time tomorrow. 


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As we know, there are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don't know we don't know.

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Re: The Elegant Universe [Re: Xochitl]
    #2076167 - 11/06/03 06:53 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

The Elegant Universe is a book as well, on string theory. I have read the first few chapters, and I liked what I read. 

The Elegant Universe: Superstrings, Hidden Dimensions, and the Quest for the Ultimate Theory

There's the Amazon link. Check it out! :grin:
Peace.


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Re: The Elegant Universe [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2076187 - 11/06/03 07:19 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

that book rocks, everyone should read it.


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Re: The Elegant Universe [Re: Clean]
    #2076291 - 11/06/03 09:14 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I think anyone who is interested in the interconncectedness of the universe and it's component parts/forces should read that book and watch all parts of the series. It does help when you read the book to have some familiarity with physics and some related topics so that you can understand better what you are reading. I'm suprises actually that they plugged the book so heavily since very few people can relate to the theory contained therein.


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Re: The Elegant Universe [Re: superblingtheory]
    #2076516 - 11/06/03 11:09 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

The stuff in the book is pretty dumbed down as it is :smirk:

That being said, I highly reccomend both the book and PBS's mini-series (which I just watched yesterday online). I've read the book at least 7 or 8 times in the 3 or 4 years I've had it.


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What you know you can't explain,
But you feel it;
You've felt it your entire life.
That there's something wrong with the world.
You don't know what it is, but it's there....
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Re: The Elegant Universe [Re: trendal]
    #2076735 - 11/06/03 12:42 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

everyone should definitely read the book!! even though alot of it is most definitely theory and doesnt have all that much proof, its still extremely interesting stuff.



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Re: The Elegant Universe [Re: trendal]
    #2076741 - 11/06/03 12:45 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

trendal said:
The stuff in the book is pretty dumbed down as it is :smirk:





I was going to say that earlier, that I thought the author intended to make it so that anyone could pick it up and read it. I'm not too big on physics or anything, so I took it really slow and reread as I went to really understand it, as I really wanted to, and I was getting into it. I need to buy it, because I have only read like the first chapters, like before they even got into the new theories.
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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
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Loving every breath of you

:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:


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Re: The Elegant Universe [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2076872 - 11/06/03 01:50 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

well if somebody has read it 7 or 8 times, that's gotta be worth something. Im putting near the top of my wish list.


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Re: The Elegant Universe [Re: David_Scape]
    #2077338 - 11/06/03 04:15 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Good stuff ... I saw the first 2 shows last week I think ... I'll have to check out the 3rd show online. Thanks for the link.


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Re: The Elegant Universe [Re: guitarmon]
    #2077434 - 11/06/03 04:55 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

im watchin online right now, enjoying this
great imagery to compliment the narrative



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Re: The Elegant Universe [Re: PeyoteZen]
    #2077465 - 11/06/03 05:05 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

i think the 3 hours pbs special could have been condensed down to 30 minutes. i would have like to seen more on super strings and the upper dimensions. i was talking to trendel last night on irc and he got me thinking: how could string, superstring, and M thoery relate to tgd theory? anyone have any thoughts on that?


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Re: The Elegant Universe [Re: automan]
    #2078270 - 11/06/03 09:32 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I felt the same way! What a great special on NOVA-- I actually watched it twice. I recently got into astronomy. A good read is A Brief History of Time by Stephen Hawking. I haven't finished it yet, so far no mention of String theory (lots of info on Black Holes).

I think many of us during particular "trips" in our lives feel like the world is connected through energy. Well at least, I do. String theory seems quite in line with this feeling of connectedness and energy.

Another aspect I found fascinating was the FERMILAB's experiments with particle smashing and the gravitron. The fact that we are possibly living on or near other dimensions, is incredible to think about. This might be one way to circumstantially prove this theory in our lifetime.

Interesting stuff!


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Re: The Elegant Universe [Re: automan]
    #2078413 - 11/06/03 10:10 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

how could string, superstring, and M thoery relate to tgd theory?

M-theory extends the concept of "strings" to p-branes of p dimensions.

ie: 2-brane is a plane, 3-brane is a sphere

TGD has as it's most basic element "surfaces" which are n-dimensional surfaces. In our case, 3-dimensional surfaces (sub-manifolds) stuck to an 8-dimensional "skin" which is the whole Universe.


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What you know you can't explain,
But you feel it;
You've felt it your entire life.
That there's something wrong with the world.
You don't know what it is, but it's there....
Like a splinter in your mind...
Driving you mad.


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Re: The Elegant Universe [Re: trendal]
    #2079407 - 11/07/03 02:56 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

k im definitely trippin to this show soon
anyone know where i can order the tapes?


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