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Offlineichaelma
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mushrooms or mold? pic.
    #2075568 - 11/06/03 01:35 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)


ps. cyan grown in staralized glass jar on whole brown rice.
the growth in the jar looked the same as what you see below.
I thought everything was going good, lots of growth, but then I
started having second thoughts, mabey it was going so good because
I'm actually growing mold. Well I transfered brown rice growth
into the grow chamber, good temp and high humidity. the picture
is what the growth looks like after 4 days. (shredded cardboard and
wood chips) what do you think?






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Re: mushrooms or mold? pic. [Re: ichaelma]
    #2075583 - 11/06/03 01:39 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

looks fine to me.

sorry doesn't look fine when i click on the picture and look properly.
damn i'm lazy.


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Re: mushrooms or mold? pic. [Re: ichaelma]
    #2075651 - 11/06/03 01:56 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Hmm,
You realize that Psilocybe cyanescens should be cultivated outdoors?

I see some nice mycelium, however I think the whispy growth towards the back and sides is cobweb.



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Re: mushrooms or mold? pic. [Re: ichaelma]
    #2075690 - 11/06/03 02:07 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

most of it looks like heathy mycelium, but some of it looks like wiskers on a strawberry .(high rh maybe ?)
it does seem to be growing fast .
but as long as its nice and white like that, be happy .


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Re: mushrooms or mold? pic. [Re: ichaelma]
    #2075712 - 11/06/03 02:13 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, the whispy thing is cobweb mold, and the very bright white looks like the beginning of green mold.

The chips look far too wet.


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Re: mushrooms or mold? pic. [Re: Anno]
    #2075728 - 11/06/03 02:17 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Anno said:
Yes, the whispy thing is cobweb mold, and the very bright white looks like the be3ginning of green mold.

The chips look far too wet.




I was gonna say that it might be trich. That matted shit. I have had it once and that is exactly what it looked like!


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Re: mushrooms or mold? pic. [Re: Anno]
    #2075788 - 11/06/03 02:36 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

my first thought was the same, too wet .
but you usually don't see green on wood chips unless it is colonizing over mycelium or algae .


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Re: mushrooms or mold? pic. [Re: Anno]
    #2075818 - 11/06/03 02:47 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I'm still confused on why its growing indoors?

Have people been doing this recently or what?


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Re: mushrooms or mold? pic. [Re: angryshroom]
    #2075840 - 11/06/03 02:54 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

angryshroom this is somewhere on the shroomery,i dont know if the pic is here but they can be grown indoors.

Cultivating Panaeolus Species (Trop. & Cyan.)

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You will find your cultivation efforts very similar to cultivating any Cubensis strain.
I have tried several different substrates and my substrate of choice is Pennington?s brand Finch seed. It seems to colonize quicker and with less problems.

Lightly boil your seed in water for 45 minutes or an hour. Let it steep, to absorb as much water as it can. Then put in a colander and rinse with tap water to wash off all the dirt and nasty sludge. A strainer would probably work better.
Let drain for 15 minutes. The seed should have absorbed all the water it can, you don't want any extra water in the substrate.

Load your jars, ? pint jars work great. Leave room at the top for a layer of vermiculite. Pressure cook your jars for 1 hour at 15 psi. the time starts when the PC reads 15 psi.

I punch 4 holes in the lids of my jars and turn the rubber so it faces up.
Seal with aluminum foil?.now pressure cook them.

When the time is up?.turn off the heat?let your jars cool overnight.

Using the "oven-tek" remove your jars from the PC and put on oven rack.
Take your ready made syringes and..1 at a time?inoculate your jars. Wipe your needle between jars with a napkin containing alcohol. Shake the syringe between injections to distribute the spores evenly.

Once all your jars have been inoculated?store them at about 80-85 degrees until fully colonized.
The mycelia of the Pans is fine..and very fragile. Once they are fully colonized?let them sit for another week.


OK?the good part?..

Use a plastic tray?Mix all your spawn with zoodoo/compost or dung/compost. I use 8 jars to 5 pounds of that. If you use any store bought compost?strain out all the wood,?sticks..woodchips..etc.
You can nuke your dung/compost in a microwave for 10 minutes.
If you have obtained dung or compost from a garden?Pasteurize it.

Once you have done all this?cover your trays and let them sit for a couple days. Now?check out your trays?.do you see mycelium growing?
If so?what I do is?case them with a layer of the same dung/compost. Use about a ? inch only. Give them a GOOD misting and give them light.

Now your back to the regular Cubensis teks?.fan and mist as necessary.

This is an easy way to explain this?I have tried all kinds of substrates and compost mixes, but this will work real good for you.
I have posted my results..in pictures before?and I'm sure you have all seen them.

Fruiting temps are about 75 degrees. Some would argue?but the results show the flushes. The potency is fabulous.
Rye is also a great substrate..very good potency also.
The Pan Trops are fantastic..but I seem to find that the Cyans are more potent.

If anyone would like to see all the pics?from casing to full blown fruiting?you can email me(ralphster44@hushmail.com)?Ill send you a ZIP file of all the stages.
This is an excellent shroom!!
I have sent out a couple hundred prints?trops and cyans?so ?try this method and let me know the results.
I'm sure you will have success with this method?.



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Re: mushrooms or mold? pic. [Re: ]
    #2075846 - 11/06/03 02:56 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: mushrooms or mold? pic. [Re: TrippinSpinners]
    #2075864 - 11/06/03 03:02 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

yeah trippin thats the pic that comes with it. :thumbup: 


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Re: mushrooms or mold? pic. [Re: ]
    #2075875 - 11/06/03 03:07 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

You are confusing Psilocybe cyanescens with Panaeolus cyanescens.

Psilocybe cyanescens -> outdoors


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    #2075895 - 11/06/03 03:13 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

ps. cyan & pan. cyan are two totally different mushrooms .


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Re: mushrooms or mold? pic. [Re: deanofmean]
    #2075902 - 11/06/03 03:16 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

doh.... should if paid more attention.... My bad


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Re: mushrooms or mold? pic. [Re: deanofmean]
    #2075912 - 11/06/03 03:18 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

thx anno and dean
you're right!
does that mean ichealma was doomed from the start?


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Re: mushrooms or mold? pic. [Re: deanofmean]
    #2075928 - 11/06/03 03:32 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

>ps. cyan & pan. cyan are two totally different mushrooms .

Perhaps we should not be calling them "ps. cyan & pan. cyan" and call them by their real names to contribute to less confusion in distinguishing the both species...


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    #2075938 - 11/06/03 03:42 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

not necessarily .
ps. cyan goes by another name; dry rot .
fresh air and low rh may save the day, if ps. cyan mycelium was there to start with .


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Re: mushrooms or mold? pic. [Re: Anno]
    #2075951 - 11/06/03 03:51 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Anno said:
>ps. cyan & pan. cyan are two totally different mushrooms .

Perhaps we should not be  calling them "ps. cyan & pan. cyan" and call them by their real names to contribute to less confusion in distinguishing the both species... 




i agree, let's call them copes and white rot  :lol: 


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Re: mushrooms or mold? pic. [Re: Anno]
    #2076562 - 11/06/03 11:25 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Perhaps we should not be calling them "ps. cyan & pan. cyan" and call them by their real names to contribute to less confusion in distinguishing the both species...





That would be awesome. :wink:

PSILOCYBE cyanescens -> Wood loving Psilocybe grown only outdoors
PANAEOLUS (COPELANDIA) cyanescens -> Dung loving PANAEOLUS grown in subtropical/tropical climates (Indoors)


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Re: mushrooms or mold? pic. [Re: angryshroom]
    #2077631 - 11/06/03 06:16 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I don't understand why everyone is making a big deal about psilocybe
cyanescens only growing outdoors. Whats the big deal? why can't I grow it indoors?


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