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OfflineMrDobolina
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Do I need to case? Please help !
    #2075132 - 11/05/03 11:34 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Posted a question about my project earlier.  Need some more help.  (1) 1-pint jar, fully-colonized was mixed with 10 pounds of compost.  It's just sitting there now, and I do see growth, after 3 days.  Yes, I know this is way too little, and will take a long time to colonize.
Do I need to do anything further with this though?  Or should I just expect shrooms in a few weeks... or maybe by Christmas? :wink:
Someone mentioned that I might want to case it.  With what should I case?  Do I cover the whole top of my grow with casing material?

Thanks for the help!


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Re: Do I need to case? Please help ! [Re: MrDobolina]
    #2075171 - 11/05/03 11:43 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

It would be silly to case already, especially in your situation. The best think you can do is:

a.) Wait and see if it colonizes

b.) hurry up and colonize some more jars to add to the mix.

IMOA there's nothing else you can really do.


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Re: Do I need to case? Please help ! [Re: Demiurge]
    #2075179 - 11/05/03 11:46 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

That's scary... there is a good possibility this will not colonize.  After all this work, man.  wtf!
Thanks for the help though! :smile:  There is no other place like this to get help, and I really, really appreciate it!


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Re: Do I need to case? Please help ! [Re: MrDobolina]
    #2075226 - 11/06/03 12:01 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

not to be a dick, but did you do any research before trying this?

1 pint for ten pounds of shit is not enough.

I added some liquid myc. to some straw and it colonised super quick.

If you have any myc. left you could mash it up in some h202/water and see what happens.

The longer it takes to colonise the more likely you are to get contams.


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Re: Do I need to case? Please help ! [Re: sirreal]
    #2075265 - 11/06/03 12:10 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, actually, I did do some research... sort of.
I have a friend, who is actually one of the sponsors of this site.  I do some stuff for him - he does some stuff for me.  On my end, I receive spores and advice.  I obviously got steered in a half-assed direction.  His words were "take a couple of jars, and mix it in the compost real good."  I said "That's it?"  He said "That's it."
Now, to be fair, I was supposed to add a few more jars to the mix.  I innoc'd 8 jars... only one of them produced for me.  The vermiculite I used was super-fine for some reason (same brand I always get, but this time, it was finer).  This made it so my jars didn't grow. Hence, the 1 jar to 10 pounds of compost.
But, I need to produce something now... and that is why I grew impatient, and am in the mess.
I am just looking for the best way to handle the situation.
BTW, you're not being a dick :smile:  I knew I was doing something stupid - for some odd reason, I just thought if I followed the advice of my friend, everything would turn out fine.
I don't have any myc... I do have a ton of syringes though - all of different strains, however.  Anything I can do with those, maybe?


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Re: Do I need to case? Please help ! [Re: MrDobolina]
    #2075291 - 11/06/03 12:17 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I innoculate shot glasses and make liquid myc. out of them. They colonise real quick. :thumbup:


If one of the jars colonised then it probably was not the verm that caused the problem with the other jars. Reevaluate everything you did and try to figure it out. With a multi-spore innoculation tech. you are getting different sub-strains of mushrooms. Some are more hardy.

Maybe the jar that colonised was very sturdy myc.  Did you keep the jars at a good temp? 


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Re: Do I need to case? Please help ! [Re: sirreal]
    #2075307 - 11/06/03 12:20 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I should've elaborated more. Get this: the one jar that grew had the old vermiculite in it that I had used before. This is how I am guessing it was the vermiculite.
I still have the other jars - I am giving them a week to start showing signs of life before I toss them. It's been 3 weeks though. One of the jars does have some growth near the inoculation points, but only a centimeter or so in size, and it has been there for a while.
The jars all smell fresh - so I don't think there contam'd per se. But no growth.
What is this liquid mycelium all about? Never heard of that? Is there info in the site I can read about this?


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Re: Do I need to case? Please help ! [Re: MrDobolina]
    #2075329 - 11/06/03 12:26 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I keep it real simple. You must be sterile in doing this, allright?

The most important thing is to be in an area where there is no air movement. Close all heater vents, turn off all fans , etc.
Spray everything with lysol and mop the floor with bleach water.

Next, Take the shot glass with myc. and transfer it to a cup with 25% peroxide and 75% water. Mash it up real good and poor over your substrate. Or you could use a sterile syringe. With a syringe you can get deeper into the substrate.


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Edited by sirreal (11/06/03 12:27 AM)


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Re: Do I need to case? Please help ! [Re: sirreal]
    #2075401 - 11/06/03 12:46 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Ok... cool. I think I can do that. Where the hell do I get the mycelium now? Think I should pick a piece or two out of the compost?


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Re: Do I need to case? Please help ! [Re: MrDobolina]
    #2075422 - 11/06/03 12:52 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think that would be a good idea.

The only thing that I can think of is what I said. It takes about 1 week to colonise shot glasses.

There is something else you can do. Take a syringe with some sterile water in it and inject a little into the myc in your shit and then withdraw it back into the syringe. Then spread it throughout the shit. You would have to do this alot though. might be risky, but you really have nothing to lose.


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Re: Do I need to case? Please help ! [Re: sirreal]
    #2075449 - 11/06/03 01:01 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Well... I will try that. I will also keep you guys posted.
This is my second grow... so I really appreciate the help!

Thanks again!


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Re: Do I need to case? Please help ! [Re: MrDobolina]
    #2075463 - 11/06/03 01:06 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Good luck buddy.  :thumbup:


I'll be praying to the mushroom gods for ya.

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