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Ololiuqui
    #2071154 - 11/04/03 10:23 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Has anyone had experience with Ololiuqui? I have tried HBWR seeds, but they got boring for me. Ololiuqui sounds like it has more visuals then HBWR sublingually.

I heard that HBWR is like ALD-52, while Ololiuqui is speedy like LSD-25.

ALD-52 = Stronger psychedelic trip but way less visuals and less mindfuck then LSD.

LSD = Speedy full blown hallucinogen/psychedelic trip.

So Ololiuqui would be more like LSD with more visuals then HBWR.

(That means HBWR is the dirty drug because of its toxins and less visual trip. Ololiuqui is far better then any other LSA containing seeds.)

Are Ololiuqui as toxic as Woodrose?



I was thinking of taking a dose of 40 seeds sublingually.

Any thoughts?


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2071338 - 11/04/03 11:12 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Opps, Mods please move this to General Questions. :blush:


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2071384 - 11/04/03 11:25 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Ololiuqui= seeds from morning glory vine. i've done morning glory seeds and hbwr seeds and they are pretty much the same. i got a lot less of a body buzz from morning glories though. mornig glory seeds may have less toxic compounds(emphasive may) but you have to eat like 300 seeds for any good effects, where as hbwr you only have to eat like 5-10 seeds for good effects. IMO they are both a waste of time and at the end of the nite i wind up with a headache and a sour stomach. there are way better enthobotanicals out there shiftingwalls, get over your lsa infatuation.


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: Infrared]
    #2071440 - 11/04/03 11:38 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

DeepBlue42 I am talking about Rivea/Turbina corymbosa. You only need a 10-18 seed dose with Ololiuqui, if you are going to swallow the seeds.

HBWR dose for sublingual - 20

Ololiuqui dose for sublingual - 35

Not many people have tried real Ololiuqui sublingually.

Rivea/Turbina corymbosa has very strong aztec/mayan backround. It was one of the most scared ethno they had.


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2071477 - 11/04/03 11:46 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

that still doesnt change the fact that lsa is a lame experience. it never offers anything new or exciting, weak mental stimulation along with mild visuals. get yourself some san pedro or some syrian rue, or some mimosa hostillis or grow yourself some mushrooms. i dont know how you like to do that stuff so much, i got bored with it after the 10 times i did it. maybe you never took anything better so you think that lsa is strong. but after doing lots of good lsd, i just cant find any fun in lsa :smirk:


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: Infrared]
    #2071512 - 11/04/03 11:55 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I do it for its insight. Mushrooms just get me all cloudy headed. LSA is a good trip a high doses.

Ololiuqui has lots of history in shamans visions. It was held higher then peyote or even mushrooms.

Please try Ololiuqui once and see the tribal visions.


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2071526 - 11/04/03 11:59 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

lsa is lsa is lsa and so on. ive done it, it sux. dimethyltryptamine and its analouges are where its at. have fun with your childs play.


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: Infrared]
    #2071556 - 11/05/03 12:10 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I never said use Ololiuqui by it self. Use it to boost a mushrooms trip, by taking 15 seeds sublingually an hour before you ingest the mushrooms.

Sort of like a visual/psychedelic booster.

Taking Ololiuqui by it self sounds scary...


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2071632 - 11/05/03 12:38 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I thought you said that LSA was better then shrooms because shrooms cloud up your head and you want to use LSA for insight? But then you say that you want to take LSA as a precurser to your shrooms. I don't get it.

Anyhow... Deepblue is right... LSA is LSA. I've tried it numerous times and the bad out weighs the good by a land slide. When I did LSA it only seemed to be fun like 1 out of the 8 hours I tripped.


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: Infrared]
    #2071635 - 11/05/03 12:39 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

DeepBlue42 said:
i dont know how you like to do that stuff so much, i got bored with it after the 10 times i did it.




same here but I ditched it after trying it twice, I wouldn't eat anything containing LSA ever again, the trip is moderate and the comedown is worse than meth and crack combined IMO.


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: John]
    #2071705 - 11/05/03 01:09 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

well i did morning glories 5 times and HBWR 5 times. all were for free of course. heres a run down of an lsa trip from my experience. 10 minutes to 2 hours after ingesting you have extreme naseau ( worst ive had in my life) after that you start feeling better, and your just happy that hell is over with. then you feel light headed and slightly euphoric ( this is when you smoke some weed and you start to get some weak color distortion and weak patterning) ive also never got any noticeable visuals unless i smoked some weed. you only really "trip" for about 3-4 hours then your left with a headache,stomach cramps and lethargy. not very fun at all.


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: Infrared]
    #2071741 - 11/05/03 01:25 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

My breakdown:

I ate the seeds then about 45min after I felt a come up similar to tryptamines, I layed down and basically fell asleep for about an hour I didn't get nausea that bad at anytime though, when I woke up I had a pretty good bodybuzz, absolutly no visuals worth mentioning, things looked diffrent, but not really visuals, this persisted for about 3hrs then came the headache, stomach cramps and lethargy and it was fuckin horrible!!! I had the worst headache in my life. Whole experience was about 10hrs. Woke up the next afternoon and felt like complete shit, worse hangover I ever had. After trying it again and realizing the experience was basically the same I swore I would never touch those things again and haven't even thought about it after that, in fact I'm gettin a headache right now just thinking about it (seriously)


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: John]
    #2071762 - 11/05/03 01:32 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

i get severe naseau flashbacks from anything that smells similar to morning glory tea (seriously) :shudders:  im sick just remembering that awful stentch  :noway: :lipsrsealed: and like i said the only way to even get any visuals from that stuff you HAVE to smoke weed. 


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: Infrared]
    #2071837 - 11/05/03 02:03 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

You guys just need to do LSA sublingual... It has a big impact...

Dont knock it till you try it...

LSA and sublingual are like Yin and Yang.

Eating LSA containing seeds has the the Baddies. Baddies make the trip HORRID!

LSA sublingually (in this case Ololiuqui) is totally different.

A true LSA experience is used with sublingual.

All those bad comedowns are from the baddies that are toxic. When you do sublingual, you don't get those baddies.

When doing sublingual you are basicly getting all the goodies from the seeds.

So you wont get any bad side-effect you were all talking about..

Try sublingual **ONCE** and you will love Ololiuqui as much as all your other tryptamines.

You will meet with the spirit world.






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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2071854 - 11/05/03 02:10 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Even if it had absolutly no side effects it couldn't even begin to compare to any real tryptamine/pea. I seriously doubt you have tried any psychadelic other than LSA.


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: John]
    #2071862 - 11/05/03 02:12 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I have tried mushrooms 10 times and HBWR 15.

Look with almost pure LSA you trip harder. The baddies block most of the psychedelic effect. So sublingual brings the trip to a new level.

Its like tripping in the Matrix.


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2071906 - 11/05/03 02:26 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

theshiftingwalls said:
Look with almost pure LSA you trip harder. The baddies block most of the psychedelic effect. So sublingual brings the trip to a new level.





Whatever made you come to this conclusion? That's a load of shit, it like saying your going to trip harder off 20mg of pure lab grade psilocybin than you would off the equilivent of 20mg psilocybin in mushrooms.



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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: John]
    #2072055 - 11/05/03 03:22 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

No I mean with LSA with no cyanogenic glousides or whatever.

The cyanogenic glousides (baddie) blocks the LSA from working...

Sorry I made you confused.


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2072097 - 11/05/03 03:34 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

You didn't confuse me, where do you get that from?
I've never heard of anything of the sort, I really doubt
that's true, post a link reguarding that, until then I say
that's a load of shit, I may be wrong, but I doubt it...


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Re: Ololiuqui [Re: John]
    #2072122 - 11/05/03 03:41 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Its at Nansnook about a HBWR article by Mjshroomer.

The baddies block the psychedelic effect.

Let me find it...


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