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Re: Evidence for Consciousness after Death [Re: Icelander]
#20708624 - 10/15/14 10:15 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I cannot think of a less apropos graemlin.
Guess that says something about my ability to think.
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Icelander
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True, there is likely at least one less appropo gremlin.
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Re: Evidence for Consciousness after Death [Re: Thecrimson]
#20709283 - 10/16/14 03:01 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thecrimson said: Just gonna add 2 things.
When I had my 'pure consciousness' experience, I walked a short distance home on a golf course path. I remember when I got in feeling as if "I" could have floated off into the sky if my head wasn't attached to my body.
What could be a better experimental instrument than us ourselves? We are consciousness itself talking about consciousness as if it's something else. We have the best tool to test reality but we can't use ourselves as proof because we can't trust other people.
Take that however you want.
YES!!! One of the most intelligent things I have read in this thread! This is EXACTLY the impasse that scientism is! In fact it deserves this quote by R.D.Laing who reveals the birth of the scientific mindset which psychologically divides subject from object straight off the bat in its very proceedings:
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"The main point of Laing's attack was that science, as it is practiced today, has no way of dealing with consciousness, or with experience, values, ethics, or anything referring to quality. "This situation derives from something that happened in European consciousness at the time of Galileo and Giordano Bruno", Laing began his argument. "These two men epitomize two paradigms - Bruno, who was tortured and burned for saying that there were infinite worlds; and Galileo, who said that the scientific method was to study this world as if there were no consciousness and no living creatures in it. Galileo made the statement that only quantifiable phenomena were admitted to the domain of science. Galileo said: "Whatever cannot be measured and quantified is not scientific"; and in post-Galilean science this came to mean: "What cannot be measured and quantified is not real." This has been the most profound corruption from the Greek view of nature as physis, which is alive, always in transformation, and not divorced from us. Galileo's programme offers us a dead world: Out go sight, sound, taste, touch, and smell, and along with them have since gone esthetic and ethical sensibility, values, quality, soul, consciousness, spirit. Experience as such is cast out of the realm of scientific discourse. Hardly anything has changed our world more during the past four hundred years than Galileo's audacious program. We had to destroy the world in theory before we could destroy it in practice." (Uncommon Wisdom: Conversations with remarkable people, Fritjof Capra, page 139)
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Re: Evidence for Consciousness after Death [Re: zzripz]
#20709308 - 10/16/14 03:33 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Man this whole assertion that consciousness does not exist outside the body is the exact same shit as disinformation agents spreading lies about over unity devices not working.
Can't everyone see the rules of reality are bending.
we are at the event horizon of a black hole and are about to be sucked into a reality where the laws of physics breakdown.
Dat singularity.
Fuck im just crazy but fuck i wish this bullshit massive interconnected conspiracy would just end. They literally made our world like the movie "The Village" to keep us primitive and out of the focal point of evolution.
fucking high dopamine. Seriously im waaayy better at designing conspiracies with the amount of ADAM im splicing with.
I operate in undefined interference noise its good for my imagination but im seeing patterns and connections everywhere even where there shouldnt be, but a lot of the time these connections actually work and maybe im in that dream where you believe you can fly and you have no doubt and you can but once you disbelieve you fall straight on your face. :O
Is this the law of attraction in action??
Y'all gonna be like "amphetamine psychosis " now aren't yeh
Im satan
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Edited by SleepyE (10/16/14 04:03 AM)
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Re: Evidence for Consciousness after Death [Re: SleepyE]
#20709972 - 10/16/14 09:37 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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No I'm Satan
Quit fucking around.
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Re: Evidence for Consciousness after Death [Re: Icelander]
#20710569 - 10/16/14 12:15 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Theres a new beezelboss in townn..
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Re: Evidence for Consciousness after Death [Re: SleepyE]
#20710593 - 10/16/14 12:18 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Do not fuck with me dood.
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Re: Evidence for Consciousness after Death [Re: Icelander]
#20710639 - 10/16/14 12:25 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Evidence for Consciousness after Death [Re: SleepyE] 1
#20710672 - 10/16/14 12:30 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Evidence for Consciousness after Death [Re: Icelander] 1
#20711065 - 10/16/14 01:49 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Evidence for Consciousness after Death [Re: Ped]
#20711155 - 10/16/14 02:10 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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But really only jesus's consciousness can exist outside the body because hes on the tesseract
http://pavlopoulos.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/dali_corpushypercubus1954.jpg
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