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Offlinejumpship
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i love tyvek but......
    #2071085 - 11/04/03 10:08 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

i am having some troubles with my jars dying out. some do and some don't getting a 5 out of 10 success rate now. this is to low and considering i am losing none to contams and just getting dry grains i need to fix this up.

i use tyvek as the lid, just the band and the tyvek. saw that things were getting dry on previous runs and started to tape over the tyvek lids, just leaving a little exposed for air exchange. still had trouble with the drying. maybe i just need a tiny bit exposed.

i really like the tyvek for the no contam deal and also the ease (can just shoot liquid myc right though), would rather get it to work right than mess with polyfill.

so if anyone out there uses this setup let me know the best ways please.

should i use better tape, just using the standard 3m tape now. or is there a better way?

thanks for any info.


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Re: i love tyvek but...... [Re: jumpship]
    #2071126 - 11/04/03 10:18 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

You should just drill a single 1/4" hole on the top of your jars, or 4 small holes to fit a syringe through. Then use your tyvek over the dome lid. YOu should be fine.

ANother thing would be to increase your rH in your incubator. Using a large igloo "cooler" and a fish-tank-heater in a jug of water keeps things pretty damp in there.


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Re: i love tyvek but...... [Re: angryshroom]
    #2071272 - 11/04/03 10:55 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

drill one hole big enough for the needle, one that's 1/4th hole. tape the one you shoot through if you want to be extra careful


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Re: i love tyvek but...... [Re: thisone]
    #2071335 - 11/04/03 11:11 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I have found tyvek with 1/4 inch holes tend to get a little dry with wbs, so I switched to polyfill and have never looked back. Polyfill is the shit IMOA!


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Re: i love tyvek but...... [Re: Demiurge]
    #2072103 - 11/05/03 03:36 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Yes, thats what I use too.


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Re: i love tyvek but...... [Re: angryshroom]
    #2072447 - 11/05/03 08:24 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I haven't used either, but a 1/4" hole? Wow, you guys use some FAT needles! Good thing you ain't junkies, or you wouldn't have arms!

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Re: i love tyvek but...... [Re: DMJ]
    #4225199 - 05/27/05 03:25 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I thought tyvek was waterproof. I've not had any problems with tyvek-covered jars drying out (I use tyvek under the ring...no lid at all) but I have also only been using grains and tyvek-capped jars for a short while. Previous efforts used PF-style jars.

Also, incubator has a tight-fitting lid so perhaps it holds in the humidity.

Anyone care to add more? Is tyvek waterproof?


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Re: i love tyvek but...... [Re: morninggloryseed]
    #4225205 - 05/27/05 03:29 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Try putting the tyvek under the lid.. It keeps 'em plenty moist. I just screw the regular lid over the tyvek, and puncture the tyvek 4 times when I inject spores..


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Re: i love tyvek but...... [Re: jumpship]
    #4225263 - 05/27/05 03:54 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: i love tyvek but...... [Re: agar]
    #4225321 - 05/27/05 04:16 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

You know, agar, you really should just get the Shroomery logo at the top of every page replaced with the jar picture.


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Re: i love tyvek but...... [Re: czexysexy]
    #4225535 - 05/27/05 06:38 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Waterproof? - Yes. Water can seep through though. Only when under pressure

I'd do Rye and liquid myc.

A foaf's jars take only 7 days to colonize...

My guess is you're loading them not wet enough...Maybe something wrong w/ your soaking times...?

-Gnostic


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Re: i love tyvek but...... [Re: jumpship]
    #4225573 - 05/27/05 07:43 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

>i use tyvek as the lid, just the band and the tyvek.

As others already mentioned, you are exposing a too great area of the surface of the tyvek, thus it is drying out.
Only drill a 1/4 inch hole in the lid.


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Re: i love tyvek but...... [Re: Anno]
    #4225576 - 05/27/05 07:46 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Hmm...Are you sure Anno?

I thought that Many people just used Tyvek....

:shrug:

:cheers:

-Gnostic


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Re: i love tyvek but...... [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4225583 - 05/27/05 07:53 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I use tyvek then the lid with a  1/4 inch hole in the center with polyfill threw that. The poly fill helps keep anything from commgn three and asllows the jar to breathe just enuff.


also if ur having dry problems its not the tyvek. Like you said gnostic its prolly soaking/simmering time.  what grain are you using?

I use WBS because IMHO its the best yet.  I soak it for usualy 10 hours (over nite) and then simmer for 30 mins on low-medium heat (gas stove) and thats bene perfect  for... 2 grows so far no probs :smile: #3 jars in incubation now :wink:


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Re: i love tyvek but...... [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4225590 - 05/27/05 08:08 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

>Hmm...Are you sure Anno?
Yes.

Check the original tyvek thread:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/516281


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Re: i love tyvek but...... [Re: Anno]
    #4225608 - 05/27/05 08:31 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

From Orginals come Crappy wanna be's and some times...

Someone discovers something better to do with it.

No disrespect meant, i just know that people change how they do things over time :thumbup:

I guess i'll start doing that as well heh

Good luck man

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Re: i love tyvek but...... [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4225683 - 05/27/05 09:47 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

IGnosticAbhorI said:
Hmm...Are you sure Anno?

I thought that Many people just used Tyvek....

:shrug:

:cheers:

-Gnostic




I always use just tyvek and the lid on my BRF/verm jars and they never dry out, EVER. I do use a TiT and whenever I check them I have condensation all over the inside of the tub, so the humidity is good in there :smile:


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Re: i love tyvek but...... [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #4225717 - 05/27/05 10:16 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Well, of course they'd never dry out, lol

But for those who Don't have high humidity in their TiT...:(


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Re: i love tyvek but...... [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4225721 - 05/27/05 10:19 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

If the air is too dry in the TiT, just add some hydroton or perlite.......


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Re: i love tyvek but...... [Re: Mighty Bop]
    #4225723 - 05/27/05 10:21 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Too much misture...

My house festers with bacteria...

Sitting water isn't a great idea for my environment..

-Gnostic


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