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    #2070776 - 11/04/03 08:52 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

what mushrooms other than cyans grow on woodchips? and do you know any that grow on cypress?


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Re: woodchips [Re: aje]
    #2070832 - 11/04/03 09:08 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I find Baeo's on alder chips.


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Re: woodchips [Re: NWuser]
    #2071016 - 11/04/03 09:50 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

allong with several other psilocybian mushrooms, deadly galerinas will grow on wood chips aswell. they will even cohabitate intimately, where they grow cluster to cluster. if you do not know how to recognize these, you should learn.


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Re: woodchips [Re: canid]
    #2071968 - 11/05/03 02:52 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

if I'm not mistaken stuntzii grow on woodchips as well... I actually found about 6 of them yesterday growing in woodchips in issaquah...


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Re: woodchips [Re: Imobiletoe]
    #2072911 - 11/05/03 12:55 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

The stuntzii's and baeocystis which appear on woodchips are formthe topsoil and fertilizers int he ground below the woodchips. Both P. stuntzii and P. fimaetaria as well as P. baeocystis are pastureland shrooms originally form meados and manured fields

And of course Galerinas are in woodchips and P. marginata ois comon in lawns. There are comparison photos at my site under poisonous and hallucinogenic look-a-likes at :

http://www.mushroomjohn.com/species.htm

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Re: woodchips [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2073572 - 11/05/03 04:30 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

thanks for the resources. my friend found a mushroom growing off of a woodchip and we will hopefully be able to get an ID soon. if it is something we want, we may try to grow these as there is some mycelium on the woodchip itself.


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Re: woodchips [Re: aje]
    #2074252 - 11/05/03 07:52 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Heh, well being from the NW I have no idea what a cypress is - as far as if it's a deciduous or confiferous tree. Most hardwoods (deciduous) like maple, alder, oak, elm, cottonwood to name a few will support beao's, cyans, stunzii. Those same 3 will not usually be very happy on conifer chips/sawdust (pine, fir, cedar, redwood). I have had cyans do fine on a mix of Douglas fir and alder though (Douglas fir not being a true fir may be part of the reason). If cypress is a deciduous hardwood it should support any ps. types that "munch" wood.


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Re: woodchips [Re: Werecat]
    #2075453 - 11/06/03 01:02 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

cypress=cedar


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Re: woodchips [Re: thescientist]
    #2075771 - 11/06/03 02:29 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

cedar = Juniperus sp.
cypress = Cupressus sp.

But both are trees, yes :wink: 

Edit: and both fall into the  Cupressaceae family.



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Re: woodchips [Re: Anno]
    #2075891 - 11/06/03 03:12 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Some cedars fall into the familys Thuja
Cryptomeria and Juniperus but most are Cedrus.


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Re: woodchips [Re: Anno]
    #2077178 - 11/06/03 03:29 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

thanks anno,

i knew soon as i posted someone would break out latin to correct me.
i dont need correction.
for werecat who didnt know what a cypress is the best explanation for them was "its a cedar"

as for our eastern cedar in ontario and western red cedar, they belong to Thuja like paid pointed out, not juniperus or cupressus genus.
because cedars belong to the Cupressaceae family
cypress=cedar

the western red cedar is reffered to as cypress often

The "Alaska yellow-cedar, Alaska cedar, yellow cypress (3, 4), Nootka cypress, Alaska cypress" is cupressus genus but commonly called both cedar and cypress. It is also placed in the chamaecyparis genus seen in anno's phylogenic tree above.

also juniperus genus refers to Junipers not cedars, i have never read, seen or heard these names used interchangably.

but of course i could be wrong.
please dont correct my spelling or grammar

cool tree anno, havent seen that one before.

i was planting trees near blue river this summer in the interior cedar-hemlock zone. it was awsome. high elevation, chopper-show. clearcuts of course, all the big cedars were taken out and the hemlocks left to rot. the he3mlocks were real big too. 1m+ diamter and some 50m+ long. i guess hemlocks not worth anything to SLOCAN


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Re: woodchips [Re: thescientist]
    #2077648 - 11/06/03 06:24 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Eastern red cedar (Juniperus virginiana)
Eastern red cedar tree is a hardy evergreen tree that provides welcome color and texture to the garden
year round. Although capable of reaching heights of 60 feet, in most yards the tree will top off between
15 and 25 feet


not nit picking, this is just in reply to

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also juniperus genus refers to Junipers not cedars, i have never read, seen or heard these names used interchangably.






common names are confusing hu.


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Re: woodchips [Re: Paid]
    #2077815 - 11/06/03 07:12 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

right you are,

you must be from kansas or arkansas?
eastern cedar is native here but not eastern red cedar.- as far as i know;)


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Re: woodchips [Re: thescientist]
    #2077861 - 11/06/03 07:22 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)


:wink:


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Re: woodchips [Re: thescientist]
    #2077863 - 11/06/03 07:23 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

He's from England :tongue:


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Re: woodchips [Re: Gumby]
    #2077879 - 11/06/03 07:28 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

actually, the great state of ohio. (its not great, it sucks ass)


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Re: woodchips [Re: aje]
    #2078282 - 11/06/03 09:34 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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actually, the great state of ohio. (its not great, it sucks ass) 




I was talking about Paid, homey :wink:


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Re: woodchips [Re: Gumby]
    #2080588 - 11/07/03 12:25 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Wow - I figured I wouldn't need to look up Cypress and I was right. To answer the original question of the post then - NO, Cypress wood chips, sawdust would not be a good choice for growing any active mushroom I'm aware of. Cedar trees that blow down around here last forever (well, compared to Douglas firs, hemlocks & sitka spruce) largely due to their NOT being attacked by most fungus.
Thanks for the tree education by the way guys


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Re: woodchips [Re: Gumby]
    #2081593 - 11/07/03 06:33 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

GumbyDude said:
Quote:

psychopsilocybin said:
actually, the great state of ohio. (its not great, it sucks ass) 




I was talking about Paid, homey :wink: 




oh, gotcha.   


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Re: woodchips [Re: aje]
    #11506981 - 11/22/09 10:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Ok, lets clear this taxonomic nightmare up. Common names are often misleading, though taxonomic names can also be in chaotic flux. Here is the lowdown:
The TRUE cedars are in the Cedrus genus. These are indigenous to Euro-Asia. These have true needles that are in fascicles (bundles) from the branch. They are in the Pinaceae family and are closely related to other fascicled pine members like Larix spp.
The FALSE cedars are in the (Cypress) Cupressaceae family, or the cypress family. They typically belong to genera like Thuja, and Chaemacyparis. Junipers are also members of this family, but are NOT cedars nor cypress trees.
The other common conifer family is the Taxodiaceae (currently polyphyletic) which include the bald cypress, dawn redwood, coast redwood, and the giant sequios.

My experience (which is always limited) with P.cyanescens is that I have found them beneath Douglas-fir, Coast Redwoods, and true Cupressus species. That is not to say that they live exclusively upon litter from the trees but are capable of withstanding the high levels of resin and acid that are present in the decaying material from the trees leaves.


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