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White fuzz on Brf cake advice
#20704986 - 10/15/14 03:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do these cakes look ok got abit worried thanks for any input it seems to have some sort of white fuzz
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mikecom]
#20704997 - 10/15/14 03:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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build a sgcf
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mushiez]
#20705004 - 10/15/14 03:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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There is no free air exchange because you aren't using a shotgun fruiting chamber which is a must-have for PF Tek cakes.
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Yo dude man dude they look good but mad struggling with fresh air
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: motherchimp]
#20705969 - 10/15/14 11:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have built this auto terriaum or supposed to be lol how can I adapt this design to allow more fae just drill more holes ?
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mikecom]
#20706031 - 10/15/14 11:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have built this auto terriaum or supposed to be lol how can I adapt this design to allow more fae just drill more holes ?
yes, more holes! drill two 2.5 inch holes above the perlite on the long sides and 2 2.5 inch holes at the top of the short width sides. Then lightly stuff them with poly.( cut a pillow open if you have to) that will hold you over until you build a proper SGFC, which should be soon!
-------------------- If you aren't happy with what you have now, how could you be any happier with more? (Get your SGFC high.)

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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mikecom]
#20706036 - 10/15/14 11:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You need horizontal ventilation. Its not going to vent down in from the top. I put many holes along the sides and the cover.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: SpinScratch]
#20706082 - 10/15/14 12:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why are BRF cakes going in a monotub?
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mikecom]
#20706172 - 10/15/14 12:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have built this auto terriaum or supposed to be lol how can I adapt this design to allow more fae just drill more holes ?
Build a proper SGFC they're as automated as they come. air pumps and whatnots dont give enough FAE. its and old and outdated method!
And put at least 3-4" of perlite in your chamber, hell put 5-6" if you got it!
and remember its not good to just to make a few holes here and there, do it in the pattern as described in the link I posted! 
PS, no polyfill in a SGFC
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SpinScratch said: You need horizontal ventilation. Its not going to vent down in from the top. I put many holes along the sides and the cover.
that looks like taped glass to the lid 
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stareatclouds said: Why are BRF cakes going in a monotub?
What are you talking about? The extra holes are just to supply some fresh air until he can build a sgfc.
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a Just now added these holes That's what I get for trying to build something to good to be true this is my first grow so thanks for the help guys:)
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20706192 - 10/15/14 12:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: Build a proper SGFC
and remember its not good to just to make a few holes here and there, do it in the pattern as described in the link I posted! 
this is important. you need holes on ALL 6 sides of the tub. your perlite is pretty much useless like it is now.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20706210 - 10/15/14 12:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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spacechildo said:
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spacechildo said: Build a proper SGFC
and remember its not good to just to make a few holes here and there, do it in the pattern as described in the link I posted! 
this is important. you need holes on ALL 6 sides of the tub. your perlite is pretty much useless like it is now.
especially with how shallow it is. it takes a while to build a SGFC. i recommend drilling some holes like i said or cracking your lid for now. Poor cakes are suffocating
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: PurePleasure]
#20706229 - 10/15/14 12:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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you gotta take out the cakes to drill the tub. try thinking stuff through before you say them dude
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: PurePleasure]
#20706248 - 10/15/14 12:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok I got an extra bag of perlite will buy another tote tonight and build sgfc I can just transfer my perlite from my current terriaum to my new one tonight right and then add more to get more depth for right now I will crack the lid will this fuzz affect yield ? Thanks again guys. I didn't drill I heated a long nail and pushed through
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mikecom]
#20706267 - 10/15/14 12:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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you can probably just continue using the tub you've got. make 1/4" holes spaced out every 2" in a grid pattern. on ALL 6 sides! www.mushroomvideos.com vid no 3 shows you how to do it, prev link describes how to do it.
just re-use the perlite, its a rock!
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20706275 - 10/15/14 01:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok good would it also be ok to leave my current air pump mist maker to at least help with humidity since it will be attached
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mikecom]
#20706354 - 10/15/14 01:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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no it will screw up the sgfc natural currents and function. principles of the sgfc's function
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20706373 - 10/15/14 01:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: Build a proper SGFC
and remember its not good to just to make a few holes here and there, do it in the pattern as described in the link I posted! 
this is important. you need holes on ALL 6 sides of the tub. your perlite is pretty much useless like it is now.
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stareatclouds said: There is no free air exchange because you aren't using a shotgun fruiting chamber which is a must-have for PF Tek cakes.
lol this is really inaccurate in two ways, first, there are a number of acceptable ways to give cakes FAE one of which is a SGFC, which idunno how u r confused, but isn't the only way to give cakes FAE
second, SGFC isn't at all a must-have for pf tek cakes in fact I dont think pf himself ever used a SGFC (not saying he wouldnt have been better off, saying it certainly works w/o one, )
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: weaksause]
#20706415 - 10/15/14 01:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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PF did a LOT of weird stuff. he didn't give his cakes air nor water 
and the un disputable BEST way to give your cakes fresh air is by the SGFC. but as pf's no hole sealed aquarium showed cubes can grow in the worst conditions possible. this guy fruited his in the trash can doesnt mean you should do it tho...
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20706431 - 10/15/14 01:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: PF did a LOT of weird stuff. he didn't give his cakes air nor water 
and the un disputable BEST way to give your cakes fresh air is by the SGFC. but as pf's no hole sealed aquarium showed cubes can grow in the worst conditions possible. this guy fruited his in the trash can doesnt mean you should do it tho...
well no air and or no water would mean ded cakes, idunno too much about pf sides the tek in high times
yeah i agree, ofc you should try to optimize conditions. the post i quoted claimed there was no FAE cuz it wasnt a SGFC,which means he was confused (cuz fae exists w/o a sgfc) and that SGFC was necessary with pf tek, which clearly it isnt the namesake of the tek didnt use them
you're claiming his spray shield aquarium was the worst conditions possible now, that's false
ofc worse conditions are easily conceivable
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: weaksause]
#20706439 - 10/15/14 01:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I really dont get what you're trying to say 
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define acceptable please. if you feel the trash can or aquarium is acceptable maybe keep that to yourself? try a sgfc and see the difference. I know I have.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20706490 - 10/15/14 01:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: I really dont get what you're trying to say 
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weaksause said: there are a number of acceptable ways to give cakes FAE
define acceptable please. if you feel the trash can or aquarium is acceptable maybe keep that to yourself? try a sgfc and see the difference. I know I have.
not sure how you managed to grab that meaning lol
acceptable i guess now you bring it up would be individual obv. acceptable for an average home cultivator is not acceptable for a shroom farm. i dont think a spray shield aquarium would be acceptable for me, nor would an unmodified garbage can. although many people found the aquariums acceptable, so maybe 10 yrs ago i'd have too.
monotub is acceptable, GH acceptable, outdoor acceptable ... i mean i'm a noob here, i'm sure that' apparent ... but even i can quickly think of different ways of providing FAE. noone needs a SGFC there are plenty of options 
it's a great ingenious device, no doubt. but it's not the only option. far from it:)
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: weaksause]
#20706506 - 10/15/14 02:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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you can't put 8-12 cakes in a huge monotub and expect good results. you come off pretty harsh for a newb..if you'd been around longer you'd know there's close to 0 FAE in a closed tote like that, and not facepalm when another member gives good advice
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20706547 - 10/15/14 02:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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hey, sorry i dont mean to be discouraging or harsh but when someone says something inaccurate i may give a facepalm, lol. no negativity meant at all
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There is no free air exchange because you aren't using a shotgun fruiting chamber which is a must-have for PF Tek cakes.
no, sorry that's incorrect he doesn't have fae because it's a closed tote, and a sgfc isn't a must have for pf cakes
i think my dude stareatclouds simply didnt clarify, so i clarified following what stareatclouds said is fine, duh. it's wrong though
a monotub has close to zero fae? i disagree with that:( you can dial in a monotub full of cakes no problem with a fan pointed at the wall, and generally good house conditions what am i missing? i'm here too learn so lmk i don't like some of the all or nothing statements, like u must use a sgfc
there's a number of ways to fruit cakes
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20706611 - 10/15/14 02:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I never said a monotub has close to 0 fae. I said a closed tote like this. a sgfc is pretty much a must for pf-cakes. if you want decent results. which I guess we all want. GH's arent newb friendly and not to be expected to be built either.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20706647 - 10/15/14 02:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: I never said a monotub has close to 0 fae. I said a closed tote like this. a sgfc is pretty much a must for pf-cakes. if you want decent results. which I guess we all want. GH's arent newb friendly and not to be expected to be built either.
its not even close to pretty much a must, u dont even need a fc u can fruit in vitro u can fruit in upside down quart jars, u can slurry and spawn to bulk, u can fruit in a closed aquarium, if ur like me and u sit around fanning all day u can fruit in 2 liter bottles u can fruit outside, i mean th elist goes on
maybe ur the type to follow the fads, im the type to think out of the box and dont like to follow fads. there's a place for both types, right? 
sorry thought i was confused about a monotub obviously a closed space doesnt freely exchange air didnt need to be here at all to know that:)
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: weaksause]
#20706705 - 10/15/14 02:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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in vitro = no FAE. "in upside down quart jars" sounds like no FAE. slurry and spawning isnt fruiting, its spawning. closed aquarium = no FAE. coke bottle = either no fae or sgfc design.
as I said cubes are sturdy fucker that can fruit in a trash can, but that doesnt mean you should do it.
the PMP's are the thing between aquarium and sgfc. history shows what works best!
And to say I follow fads is the most ridiculous thing I've heard since last time *poor-user who wont be mentioned here* made a post.
If you knew all the fucked up shit I did to my cakes before I found the shroomery you'd know why I say you seriously need a SGFC for best results. 
read some more, then try doing it, and come back and discuss.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20706743 - 10/15/14 02:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: in vitro = no FAE. "in upside down quart jars" sounds like no FAE. slurry and spawning isnt fruiting, its spawning. closed aquarium = no FAE. coke bottle = either no fae or sgfc design.
as I said cubes are sturdy fucker that can fruit in a trash can, but that doesnt mean you should do it.
the PMP's are the thing between aquarium and sgfc. history shows what works best!
And to say I follow fads is the most ridiculous thing I've heard since last time *poor-user who wont be mentioned here* made a post.
If you knew all the fucked up shit I did to my cakes before I found the shroomery you'd know why I say you seriously need a SGFC for best results. 
read some more, then try doing it, and come back and discuss.
aight wasnt saying al those methods facilitate fae, saying they are alternatives to sgfc. yo, i dk what i said to make it seem like i was suggesting NOT doing a sgfc. i certainly think it's valid!!
the upside down quart jar is called chronic tek, good option if u want cleanest possible prints
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20706815 - 10/15/14 03:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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you gotta take out the cakes to drill the tub. try thinking stuff through before you say them dude 
What the fuck are you talking about? No you dont....... i was talking about getting a different tub since that one has some bigger holes in it. I do think my shit through, why dont you take to time out to think about what i say... it looks like that tub already has a 1 sq foot hole in the lid, genius.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: PurePleasure]
#20706846 - 10/15/14 03:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: in vitro = no FAE. "in upside down quart jars" sounds like no FAE. slurry and spawning isnt fruiting, its spawning. closed aquarium = no FAE. coke bottle = either no fae or sgfc design.
as I said cubes are sturdy fucker that can fruit in a trash can, but that doesnt mean you should do it.
the PMP's are the thing between aquarium and sgfc. history shows what works best!
And to say I follow fads is the most ridiculous thing I've heard since last time *poor-user who wont be mentioned here* made a post.
If you knew all the fucked up shit I did to my cakes before I found the shroomery you'd know why I say you seriously need a SGFC for best results. 
read some more, then try doing it, and come back and discuss.
aight wasnt saying al those methods facilitate fae, saying they are alternatives to sgfc. yo, i dk what i said to make it seem like i was suggesting NOT doing a sgfc. i certainly think it's valid!!
the upside down quart jar is called chronic tek, good option if u want cleanest possible prints 
well cleaneast possible prints sounds like another no FAE fc.. but what everyone thinks but doesnt say in each sentence is "to get the best results" or "to get decent results"
otherwise you wouldnt need anything but spores grains and water to grow. when the grains contam throw them in the trash, wait for a shroom to appear  but I think we actually agree but aren't saying it the same way. and btw, fruiting cakes in vitro, where would you have room to get any decent shrooms? you'll just have some squeezed shrooms against the glass!
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you gotta take out the cakes to drill the tub. try thinking stuff through before you say them dude 
What the fuck are you talking about? No you dont....... i was talking about getting a different tub since that one has some bigger holes in it. I do think my shit through, why dont you take to time out to think about what i say... it looks like that tub already has a 1 sq foot hole in the lid, genius. 
"that one" doesnt have "some bigger holes" that cant be taped shut. it doesnt take much brains to figure out what you're saying it just takes a lot to not facepalm your every post.. and you really should try to think through your stuff before you say shit. just look at them ratings, I'm not the only one who tells you to 
1sq foot hole? you better get your eyes checked man, just earlier you thought a 66qt tub was a small tray that'd fit in a sgfc
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20706886 - 10/15/14 03:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: in vitro = no FAE. "in upside down quart jars" sounds like no FAE. slurry and spawning isnt fruiting, its spawning. closed aquarium = no FAE. coke bottle = either no fae or sgfc design.
as I said cubes are sturdy fucker that can fruit in a trash can, but that doesnt mean you should do it.
the PMP's are the thing between aquarium and sgfc. history shows what works best!
And to say I follow fads is the most ridiculous thing I've heard since last time *poor-user who wont be mentioned here* made a post.
If you knew all the fucked up shit I did to my cakes before I found the shroomery you'd know why I say you seriously need a SGFC for best results. 
read some more, then try doing it, and come back and discuss.
aight wasnt saying al those methods facilitate fae, saying they are alternatives to sgfc. yo, i dk what i said to make it seem like i was suggesting NOT doing a sgfc. i certainly think it's valid!!
the upside down quart jar is called chronic tek, good option if u want cleanest possible prints 
well cleaneast possible prints sounds like another no FAE fc.. but what everyone thinks but doesnt say in each sentence is "to get the best results" or "to get decent results"
otherwise you wouldnt need anything but spores grains and water to grow. when the grains contam throw them in the trash, wait for a shroom to appear  but I think we actually agree but aren't saying it the same way. and btw, fruiting cakes in vitro, where would you have room to get any decent shrooms? you'll just have some squeezed shrooms against the glass!
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you gotta take out the cakes to drill the tub. try thinking stuff through before you say them dude 
What the fuck are you talking about? No you dont....... i was talking about getting a different tub since that one has some bigger holes in it. I do think my shit through, why dont you take to time out to think about what i say... it looks like that tub already has a 1 sq foot hole in the lid, genius. 
"that one" doesnt have "some bigger holes" that cant be taped shut. it doesnt take much brains to figure out what you're saying it just takes a lot to not facepalm your every post.. and you really should try to think through your stuff before you say shit. just look at them ratings, I'm not the only one who tells you to 
1sq foot hole? you better get your eyes checked man, just earlier you thought a 66qt tub was a small tray that'd fit in a sgfc 
Bro...... Look at the lid. That tub is screwed when it comes to making a sgfc unless you have another lid. you cant buy just the lid. let me guess, you think he should put 1 foot long strips of tape on it and drill holes in them? or should he drill holes in the glass and leave it taped on the lid  and a 66 qt tray would fit in my sgfc.. there isn't just one universal size of a sgfc.... pull your head outta your ass and open up you ears, maing...
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: PurePleasure]
#20706900 - 10/15/14 03:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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oh go dunk some more trays in your SAB wont ya, in the meanwhile you can think over why you think he should wait another day to give those cakes a SGFC...
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: weaksause]
#20707089 - 10/15/14 04:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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OP if you want to use humidifiers and stuff like that just get a martha greenhouse. They don't work with cakes, though.
You could grow in a bucket, an opaque bin, a cut open coke bottle, hell you can even grow without a FC at all -- if you can pay enough attention to them. The SG is just the most efficient way for someone with a full time job and a dozen cakes to do it. And ya, those cakes need more air.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Quexl]
#20707425 - 10/15/14 05:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Holy fucking shit this thread
OP, Build a damn SGFC and mist/fan your cakes and you will do fine. It's not rocket appliances
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Big Bear]
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Built shotgun fruting chamber last night humidities currently at 99 temp at 72 and seems to have no more white fuzz growth fanning when I wake before work and twice more after work spread out by a couple hours thanks you guys
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mikecom]
#20711034 - 10/16/14 01:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mikecom]
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Mikecom said: Built shotgun fruting chamber last night humidities currently at 99 temp at 72 and seems to have no more white fuzz growth fanning when I wake before work and twice more after work spread out by a couple hours thanks you guys 
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: PurePleasure]
#20711904 - 10/16/14 04:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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2x2 grid all around elevated
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mikecom]
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mikecom]
#20711930 - 10/16/14 04:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nice! You should try to elevate it using jars or something, that's a bit on the short side. and have a total of 3-5" of perlite, even up to 6" often gives much better results than just 3"! I think you have 2 or soemthing?
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20711934 - 10/16/14 04:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: Nice! You should try to elevate it using jars or something, that's a bit on the short side. and have a total of 3-5" of perlite, even up to 6" often gives much better results than just 3"! I think you have 2 or soemthing?
oh yeah, that is shallow..
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: PurePleasure]
#20712025 - 10/16/14 05:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shouldn't the lid be see through?
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shoulda coulda woulda. but 80-90% of the light comes from the sides anyway
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stareatclouds said: Shouldn't the lid be see through?
If your light is going directly on the lid.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Quexl]
#20712381 - 10/16/14 06:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quexl said: OP if you want to use humidifiers and stuff like that just get a martha greenhouse. They don't work with cakes, though.
You could grow in a bucket, an opaque bin, a cut open coke bottle, hell you can even grow without a FC at all -- if you can pay enough attention to them. The SG is just the most efficient way for someone with a full time job and a dozen cakes to do it. And ya, those cakes need more air.
I know you weren't addressing me but trying a Martha is something I've been interested for a while. I've UTSE and googled and all that jazz but can't find any of those plastic wardrobes anywhere online. I could just be blind
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: gooselips]
#20712463 - 10/16/14 06:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just look for four tier mini greenhouse on amazon and check out these teks
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13229947/page/2 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19148930 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16481462 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16956010#16956010 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18322939#18322939
I am working on moving to a greenhouse setup after I finish my tubs I'm working on. That being said, I suggest mastering the SGFC and cakes first before spending a bunch of money on a greenhouse and humidifiers and what not. If you want bigger yields I think monotubs are a great option. It's a little past the PF tek in difficulty and materials required, but a great segue in to the wonderful world of mushroom growing. For the time being, let's focus on making sure these cakes fruit right
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Big Bear]
#20712469 - 10/16/14 06:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oops just realized I wasn't addressing the OP. I'm pretty baked at the moment
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Big Bear]
#20712495 - 10/16/14 06:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lol I was wondering... I'm pretty new to cultivation too, and I wouldn't really be trying to do the Martha any time soon, just curious about it. Thanks for the info though!
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: gooselips]
#20713625 - 10/16/14 10:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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nice! but that hygromometer isnt accurate in that high of an RH and is pointless
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: gooselips]
#20713746 - 10/16/14 11:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Update with pics I currently have perlite in my starting fruiting chamber would it be bad to wait till current cakes fruit and I have them dunking to add more perlite bc I already transferred the cakes once I know there more resilient then earlier stages but I dont know if I should. the first bag I opened was in my first FC it will have to be rinsed and baked before added. My cakes have been in a fruiting chamber since Sunday constant 99 humidity and temp with lows at abt 67 to current 75 been in SGFC since yesterday I know patience is key but I'm just wondering Abt you guys average time till pins [url=https://files.shroomery.org/files/14-42/352376214-image.jpg]
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mikecom]
#20713862 - 10/17/14 12:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Put your light at a 45 degree angle on the side. It's not optimal to have it directly above, especially when your top isn't even see through.
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Like this ? . Should I cut a square out of the lid and wrap with clear wrap and tape on and poke holes in to allow better lighting or leave the light like it is ?
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mikecom]
#20717093 - 10/17/14 07:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mikecom said: Should I cut a square out of the lid and wrap with clear wrap and tape on and poke holes in to allow better lighting or leave the light like it is ?
Though overhead lighting is optimal mushrooms will grow upward just fine with side lighting. Light is a secondary pinning trigger anyway (fae>light for pins). Don't cut the lid leave it as it is in the pic
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mushiez]
#20717183 - 10/17/14 07:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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overhead lighting is optimal?? 80% or so of light comes from the sides of the chamber!
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mushiez]
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Mikecom said: Should I cut a square out of the lid and wrap with clear wrap and tape on and poke holes in to allow better lighting or leave the light like it is ?
Though overhead lighting is optimal mushrooms will grow upward just fine with side lighting. Light is a secondary pinning trigger anyway (fae>light for pins). Don't cut the lid leave it as it is in the pic 
Put your light at a 45 degree angle on the side. It's not optimal to have it directly above, especially when your top isn't even see through.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20717280 - 10/17/14 07:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: 80% or so of light comes from the sides of the chamber! 
In this case.
If you think about light count the surface area it hits. With a clear lid overhead light will cover more cake surface area than from either side, unless you have multiple lamps on the side. Not only that, the white perlite reflects downward light in all directions. But like I said, light is light no matter the direction...secondary pinning trigger.
Side lighting is fine, you can still have a great harvest with it. These cakes where side lit and I had no problems:

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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20717307 - 10/17/14 07:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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its not about being a pinning trigger its about light being very important for getting fat nice shrooms with big caps. mushrooms derive energy from light.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
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spacechildo said: its not about being a pinning trigger its about light being very important for getting fat nice shrooms with big caps. mushrooms derive energy from light.
No, mushrooms do not have chloroplasts they cannot in any way chemically derive energy from light. Light is a pinning signal & during colonization has a role in metabolic rate, that's it. Big flat caps have nothing to do with it especially with MS. It's all in the DNA. That's why clones look homogenous..and MS carries hundred of different morphologies.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
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so grow a mushroom in total darkness and the same iso one in proper light and you tell me they dont derive energy from the light!
I never said chloroplasts, you did... they're mushrooms, not a plant you know.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
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so grow a mushroom in total darkness and the same iso one in proper light and you tell me they dont derive energy from the light!
I never said chloroplasts, you did... they're mushrooms, not a plant you know.
Yeah space...i was hoping you of all would know that...chloroplasts are the only way any organism can derive energy from light....and mushrooms do not have them. and before you were claiming light = big flat caps when i clearly said genetics has more influence
Everything in this statement is wrong:
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spacechildo said: its not about being a pinning trigger its about light being very important for getting fat nice shrooms with big caps. mushrooms derive energy from light.
Light is important, but as a pinning signal (secondary. fae - primary)
"While sunlight provides an energy source for plants, mushrooms derive all of their energy and growth materials from their growth medium, through biochemical decomposition processes."
"This does not mean that light is an irrelevant requirement, since some fungi use light as a signal for fruiting." .....which means a pinning trigger

You give good advice around here but this time spread misinformation?
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20717563 - 10/17/14 08:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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grow a tub in total darkness then. you're way off this time.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/dosearch.php?terms=is+lights+important+in+fruiting
read 'em and weep. there's a lot to mushrooms that we dont know yet. plants need chloroplasts, shrooms do it in a different yet unknown way to us.
where do you get all those BS quotes from? some random stoner you know? quotes from several TC's here:
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Zalitosis said: You don't need much light at all. The mushrooms don't need light to live like normal plants, it just tells them which way to grow. As long as they are getting some sort of light through the holes, they will grow just fine.
Wtf do people keep repeating this bullshit? We've known for many years it's wrong.
Mushrooms grown in proper light will be double or more in weight and other qualities people desire. Mushrooms don't need as intense light as plants but they do need very bright light to reach full potential. Nobody finds mushrooms in dark areas in nature.
Lighting requirements of mushrooms. RR
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Light has been proven beneficial during all stages of mycellium growth. Mushrooms like mammals have a circadian rhythm.
You want ambient/indirect light(on a 12/12 schedule preferably) for colonization and consolidation.
You want direct/intense 6500K light on a 12/12 schedule for fruiting.
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Really? Even shroomery doesn't seem to put much stock in it on its main page. http://www.shroomery.org/5124/Do-mushrooms-need-light-to-grow-and-how-much
Roger rabbit doesn't really talk about it much except for its help of pins...he even states that some mushrooms don't even need light to grow!
Assuming that we are referring to P cubensis they benefit from light.
Here are a few quotes where RR states that light is important.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7532252#7532252
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Light is extremely important to good mushroom formation, and it's nothing to do with which way is up. Gravity takes care of that function. The post quoted above is only one of many times I've typed that.
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I beg to disagree that light is just a pinning trigger. If you doubt this, run lights until you get a pinset, and then shut them off. The fruits will be small and under-formed compared to a control group exposed to light the whole time. That has all the hallmarks of deriving energy from the light.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11004204#11004204
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Light is required not only for pinning, but for proper mushroom development as well. Mushroom mycelium derives energy from light. Mushrooms grown without sufficient lighting are weak, thin and have little weight compared to mushrooms grown with proper lighting. That's why I have over 400 watts of 6500 Kelvin LED lighting in my grow room. It's as bright as daylight in there, and the walls are painted bright white to reflect the light around the room.
SO, .... Yes, really......
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nooneman said: They should have light at every stage of the process. They need signifigant amounts of light in the right spectrum. Don't colonize in darkness, don't pin in darkness, don't grow in darkness. Use light in the right spectrum the whole way. 12/12 is a good schedule.
Yup! Don't make it more complicated than it needs to be. Suspend a small full spectrum florescent light over the top of your fc, on the outside. put it on a timer to come on 12/12 or even 10/14 if you wanna save power. then, forget about it. Of course, your fc needs to have a clear top. Light actually aids in the grow of mycelium during colonization of the substrate as well.
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This is just flat-out wrong, and not based on fact other than the part about mushrooms not being plants.
This is not even a controversy. Too many mushroom farms have put in bright LED strings or 6500K fluorescent lamps after reading about work done at Mountain Mushroom Farm. Fungi Perfecti also now colonizes and fruits substrates exposed to 6500K light for 12 hours per day from start to finish. All have reported increases in yield far beyond the costs of the lights or electricity.
In fact, I ran some tests several years ago with 400 watt MH lamps with a color temperature of 4500K. Yields were well above what was achieved with fluorescent lamps. More research is needed to find the upper limit of effectiveness as far as brightness is concerned. Full spectrum works better than any individual frequency.
As I've said for years, some mushrooms will grow in total darkness, just not well. Furthermore, since most of the members around here have never grown anything but cubes, it should be noted they rarely grow in the shade. I've picked thousands of pounds of wild cubes from the very middle of cow pastures in Texas without anything but a few blades of grass for shade. RR
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
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I'm not arguing that light isn't important.
Dude unless you have a 300W hps/MH with a ballast virtually none of this applies to OP and most growers.
You are aware of that right?
that OPs 23 watt bulb is still going to be 23 watt at the end of the day
so your implying that it's worth it for OP to blow five hundred on overkill lighting?
RR is referring to commercial shitaake growing this is a simple pf tek...
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mushiez]
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No, mushrooms do not have chloroplasts they cannot in any way chemically derive energy from light. Light is a pinning signal & during colonization has a role in metabolic rate, that's it. Big flat caps have nothing to do with it especially with MS. It's all in the DNA. That's why clones look homogenous..and MS carries hundred of different morphologies.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mushiez]
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Mushiez said: I'm not arguing that light isn't important.
Dude unless you have a 300W hps/MH with a ballast virtually none of this applies to OP and most growers.
You are aware of that right?
that OPs 23 watt bulb is still going to be 23 watt at the end of the day
so your implying that it's worth it for OP to blow five hundred on overkill lighting?
RR is referring to commercial shitaake growing this is a simple pf tek...
KISS method
NO, I'm saying that its really important that he uses that 23w 6500k light, because mushrooms derive energy from light
its needed to grow proper fruits and get big caps. idk what you think you just read but no one suggested a large expensive hps lamp.. thats for plants..
now please stop these moronic statements and let OP have his thread back. light is important. read the link. do the searches. taste the science.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: PurePleasure]
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spacechildo said: its not about being a pinning trigger its about light being very important for getting fat nice shrooms with big caps. mushrooms derive energy from light.
No, mushrooms do not have chloroplasts they cannot in any way chemically derive energy from light. Light is a pinning signal & during colonization has a role in metabolic rate, that's it. Big flat caps have nothing to do with it especially with MS. It's all in the DNA. That's why clones look homogenous..and MS carries hundred of different morphologies.
Genetics genetics genetics

Mushrooms don't derive energy from light. They do not photosynthesize. That's it. The difference is metabolic. It's circadian. I don't care which TC said it, or if jesus said it. Show me an NCBI publication and we'll talk. Out.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mushiez]
#20717797 - 10/17/14 09:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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What are you even arguing? It's like you're acknowledging that mushrooms produce healthier fruits with a proper light cycle, but it's not due to energy from the light, it's something else? Ok, well, whatever it is, I'll still put lights on my chamber.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mushiez]
#20717802 - 10/17/14 09:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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have you ever grown a tub in darkness vs a tub in proper lighting? 
all the evidence I ever needed...
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exactly! mushiez' the only one who talks about photosynthesis, I'm saying its for some reason we yet do not know!
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stareatclouds said: What are you even arguing? It's like you're acknowledging that mushrooms produce healthier fruits with a proper light cycle, but it's not due to energy from the light
Exactly this. Right, Space. We don't know for sure yet. To test it one would need genetically identical monotubs, control vs light. It could even be that light changes genetic expression. There's a really cool branch of research study out there called epigenetics. It explores the role of the environment on DNA expression. Sorry OP for the debating
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I don't have chloroplasts but I get things essential to my health like vitamin D from sunlight. They may not get energy from the sun in the way plants do but mushrooms do require light to mature properly. That's why enoki mushroom grown in the dark have almost no caps. I once grew cubes in my yard waste bin in total darkness. The resulting fruits were pale whit with small caps. they looked much different from the cubes I grew on a 12/12 light cycle using the same isolate. It has also been documented that cubes grown in the dark have low or no potency.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
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spacechildo said: PF did a LOT of weird stuff. he didn't give his cakes air nor water 
and the un disputable BEST way to give your cakes fresh air is by the SGFC. but as pf's no hole sealed aquarium showed cubes can grow in the worst conditions possible. this guy fruited his in the trash can doesnt mean you should do it tho...
the pf tek was designed back in the day when everyone hand fanned for fae. so he was getting plenty of fresh air it was just alot of work.
tubs used to be like this.
perlite in the bottom. drip shield which was a plastic plexiglass laid in the tub at an angle. you would mist that instead of the sides so that the cakes didn't get mist on them. then people would add a bottle with water and use fish tubing to push fresh air in using a bubbler stone in the water.
those were some old methods. but he was giving the cakes plenty of fresh air but it required you to fan it 3 times a day which is a nightmare.
plain and simple indirect light coming in through the window with the binds almost shut is enough to fruit and get great results. you don't have to use any type of lighting if you don't want to. its personal preference. you can still easily get full canopy flushes using indirect sunlight.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mushiez]
#20717938 - 10/17/14 09:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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we KNOW for sure that light during fruiting gives way larger fruits. WHY it is so doesnt matter. we know its not because of photosynthesis. words doesnt matter, results do. for best results, add direct bright 6500k lights during fruiting!
why do you think mushroom farms like RR's uses so much light if it wasnt important?
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mushiez]
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No, mushrooms do not have chloroplasts they cannot in any way chemically derive energy from light. Light is a pinning signal & during colonization has a role in metabolic rate, that's it. Big flat caps have nothing to do with it especially with MS. It's all in the DNA. That's why clones look homogenous..and MS carries hundred of different morphologies.
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said it perfectly...no photosynthesis, it's possibly the same reason they are a reflective gold by nature. I believe the pinning trigger by light mean could indicate the mycelium wants the fruits to be easily seen by cattle for reproductive purposes.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: eatyualive]
#20717956 - 10/17/14 09:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: PF did a LOT of weird stuff. he didn't give his cakes air nor water 
and the un disputable BEST way to give your cakes fresh air is by the SGFC. but as pf's no hole sealed aquarium showed cubes can grow in the worst conditions possible. this guy fruited his in the trash can doesnt mean you should do it tho...
the pf tek was designed back in the day when everyone hand fanned for fae. so he was getting plenty of fresh air it was just alot of work.
tubs used to be like this.
perlite in the bottom. drip shield which was a plastic plexiglass laid in the tub at an angle. you would mist that instead of the sides so that the cakes didn't get mist on them. then people would add a bottle with water and use fish tubing to push fresh air in using a bubbler stone in the water.
those were some old methods. but he was giving the cakes plenty of fresh air but it required you to fan it 3 times a day which is a nightmare.
plain and simple indirect light coming in through the window with the binds almost shut is enough to fruit and get great results. you don't have to use any type of lighting if you don't want to. its personal preference. you can still easily get full canopy flushes using indirect sunlight.
I've used my share of glass aquariums and drip shields back in the days, but there's no question shrooms grown with proper constant FAE gives way better results! sunlight is god as far as light goes, but you cant do it in the dark! or, you can of course, but it will give you puny looking shrooms. did you see this, a guy threw his cakes in the trash can and they still fruited:
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
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When i did pf tek 12 years ago i had ultra sonic humidifiers tubed to an ass of coolers with drip shields and wire at the bottom. I've never had a sgfc or used perlite.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: sooperdooper]
#20717971 - 10/17/14 09:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: its not about being a pinning trigger its about light being very important for getting fat nice shrooms with big caps. mushrooms derive energy from light.
No, mushrooms do not have chloroplasts they cannot in any way chemically derive energy from light. Light is a pinning signal & during colonization has a role in metabolic rate, that's it. Big flat caps have nothing to do with it especially with MS. It's all in the DNA. That's why clones look homogenous..and MS carries hundred of different morphologies.
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said it perfectly...no photosynthesis, it's possibly the same reason they are a reflective gold by nature. I believe the pinning trigger by light mean could indicate the mycelium wants the fruits to be easily seen by cattle for reproductive purposes.
we're not talking pinning triggers we're talking fruit growth. and of course there's no photosynthesis, mushiez is the only one who's tlaking about that in regard to musrhooms.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
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spacechildo said: its not about being a pinning trigger its about light being very important for getting fat nice shrooms with big caps. mushrooms derive energy from light.
No, mushrooms do not have chloroplasts they cannot in any way chemically derive energy from light. Light is a pinning signal & during colonization has a role in metabolic rate, that's it. Big flat caps have nothing to do with it especially with MS. It's all in the DNA. That's why clones look homogenous..and MS carries hundred of different morphologies.
Genetics genetics genetics
said it perfectly...no photosynthesis, it's possibly the same reason they are a reflective gold by nature. I believe the pinning trigger by light mean could indicate the mycelium wants the fruits to be easily seen by cattle for reproductive purposes.
we're not talking pinning triggers we're talking fruit growth. and of course there's no photosynthesis, mushiez is the only one who's tlaking about that in regard to musrhooms.
Which could also be the reason for large caps. (More light + gold color + big caps = more visible) Meh...just a theory
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: sooperdooper]
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This shit is debatable until the cows come home. Light is beneficial. How? Who the fuck knows? Will they grow w/out light? Yes. How well? Someone try it and report back. And new uses are always being discovered. Remember this? http://news.psu.edu/story/283430/2013/08/05/research/ultraviolet-flashes-can-create-vitamin-d-enriched-mushrooms
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: azur]
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a LOT of people have tried and reported back. the SE is riddled with under-developed shrooms grown in the dark 
you can easily tell if a grow has gotten enough light by the looks of the caps. why do you think people cut their lids and replace with see-through glass or plastic?
My grows done in dark buckets with clear cut out lids always look punier than the ones grown in see through tubs.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
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Yea for sure total darkness produced shit mushrooms
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: azur]
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which suggests mushrooms needs light to grow properly to me. wow this stuff really went in a loop.
why'd you think/say it was debated until cows came home then? isnt this pretty much all the evidence you need?
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: azur]
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Everyone just fuck off with the lighting shit. Isn't this thread about fuzzy BRF or some shit?
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mushiez]
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spacechildo said: its not about being a pinning trigger its about light being very important for getting fat nice shrooms with big caps. mushrooms derive energy from light.
No, mushrooms do not have chloroplasts they cannot in any way chemically derive energy from light. Light is a pinning signal & during colonization has a role in metabolic rate, that's it. Big flat caps have nothing to do with it especially with MS. It's all in the DNA. That's why clones look homogenous..and MS carries hundred of different morphologies.
Genetics genetics genetics

Mushrooms don't derive energy from light. They do not photosynthesize. That's it. The difference is metabolic. It's circadian. I don't care which TC said it, or if jesus said it. Show me an NCBI publication and we'll talk. Out.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: PurePleasure]
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Hey guys thanks for terriaum advice the white fuzz is still there but it's getting fanned 5 or 6 times a day and misted 2 or 3 I'm proud to announce I have PINS!!!!! Thank u all again for the help
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mikecom]
#20732165 - 10/21/14 02:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Small note: You only need to fan after you mist .
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: ToxicDuck]
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Small note: You only need to fan after you mist .
I've often read that you're supposed to fan more than you mist. Are you saying it hurts to fan more?
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: gooselips]
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Ok need more advice I need a pinning strategy any links ? I'm confused on what needs to be picked at what times and if I should leave some pins on there if so can I still dunk and roll them ?
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mikecom]
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Pick your fruits as they mature. Right after they shed their veils. Wait till you harvest all your mushrooms, even aborts, before dunking your cakes.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: PurePleasure]
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Leave small pins right just be extremely gentle ?
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mikecom]
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: gooselips]
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Small note: You only need to fan after you mist .
I've often read that you're supposed to fan more than you mist. Are you saying it hurts to fan more?
Well, fanning excessively will screw up your RH a bit, but probably not hurt anything significantly. I'm not sure where you read to fan more than misting, but fanning is just to aid in evaporation, which is a main pinning trigger.
So it's not really that it's hurting anything, it's just that it's pointless
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: ToxicDuck]
#20733942 - 10/21/14 03:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The fanning also promotes FAE, replacing CO2 with fresh air, IIRC. I've also read that you should fan more than you mist.
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With a properly built SGFC, you shouldn't need to fan a bunch other than the regular schedule, as there shouldn't be enough CO2 buildup to cause any issues.
Like I said, it shouldn't hurt anything, it's just not needed. Would you rather fan three times a day or five/six? Maybe I'm wrong, but I've only ever read that you only need to fan after you mist .
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: ToxicDuck]
#20734075 - 10/21/14 03:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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with a proper sgfc there shouldnt even be a need to fan after you've misted 
they give a lot of FAE anyway. fanning removes humid air and allows for more evap, no reason to fan without having misted..
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20734325 - 10/21/14 04:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: with a proper sgfc there shouldnt even be a need to fan after you've misted 
Now that sounds like rubbish.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: PurePleasure]
#20734335 - 10/21/14 04:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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nope. try it. what sounds like BS to you makes perfect sense to the rest of us
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20734341 - 10/21/14 04:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is it splooge time?
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: azur]
#20734355 - 10/21/14 04:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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nah he gets like a kid on a sugar high off that shit. better just tell him its his bed time soon and he needs to get off the computer
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20734372 - 10/21/14 04:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ha ha Fuck sgfc. I never had one. When i did cakes i had a shit load of coolers with tubes from an ultrasonic humidifier going into them. Then i outfitted a closet with plastic and and shelves and ram humidity and fae through a hole in the door. That worked for awhile, till it got beyond nasty. Oh holy mother fucking shit!!!! That's what happened. Damn. I spawned PurePleasure in that infected closet 20 some years ago. Fuck. Well, that explains that. Sorry guys. I really do like his name though.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20734411 - 10/21/14 04:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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they give a lot of FAE anyway. fanning removes humid air and allows for more evap, no reason to fan without having misted..
Do you have any links that discuss NOT needing to fan after misting? I've always read that fanning multiple times throughout the day and only misting 2-3 is ideal.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20734420 - 10/21/14 04:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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People. Don't stop misting and fanning your sgfc....
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spacechildo said: with a proper sgfc there shouldnt even be a need to fan after you've misted 
they give a lot of FAE anyway. fanning removes humid air and allows for more evap, no reason to fan without having misted..
Do you have any links that discuss NOT needing to fan after misting? I've always read that fanning multiple times throughout the day and only misting 2-3 is ideal.
only fan after mist http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20681060#20681060
I cant find the threads where people agree there's actually no need to fan after misting in a SGFC because it has so good FAE anyway. but if you really wanna find it just search posts from the last 3 months. Its been discussed repeatedly, I just cant remember the exact words that were said.
but theres absolutely NO need to fan unless you've misted. the misting is done to clear out stale humid air and make room for evap off the freshly misted cakes, but there is no stale air in a proper sgfc.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
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spacechildo said: with a proper sgfc there shouldnt even be a need to fan after you've misted 
they give a lot of FAE anyway. fanning removes humid air and allows for more evap, no reason to fan without having misted..
Do you have any links that discuss NOT needing to fan after misting? I've always read that fanning multiple times throughout the day and only misting 2-3 is ideal.
only fan after mist http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20681060#20681060
I cant find the threads where people agree there's actually no need to fan after misting in a SGFC because it has so good FAE anyway. but if you really wanna find it just search posts from the last 3 months. Its been discussed repeatedly, I just cant remember the exact words that were said.
but theres absolutely NO need to fan unless you've misted. the misting is done to clear out stale humid air and make room for evap off the freshly misted cakes, but there is no stale air in a proper sgfc.
 Though idk from personal experience, that makes sense with the design of a sgfc.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: azur]
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Fanning has sweet fuck all to do with FAE anyway. FAE is a passive process that should be happening constantly in any well designed FC.
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spacechildo said: with a proper sgfc there shouldnt even be a need to fan after you've misted 
they give a lot of FAE anyway. fanning removes humid air and allows for more evap, no reason to fan without having misted..
Do you have any links that discuss NOT needing to fan after misting? I've always read that fanning multiple times throughout the day and only misting 2-3 is ideal.
only fan after mist http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20681060#20681060
I cant find the threads where people agree there's actually no need to fan after misting in a SGFC because it has so good FAE anyway. but if you really wanna find it just search posts from the last 3 months. Its been discussed repeatedly, I just cant remember the exact words that were said.
but theres absolutely NO need to fan unless you've misted. the misting is done to clear out stale humid air and make room for evap off the freshly misted cakes, but there is no stale air in a proper sgfc.
 Though idk from personal experience, that makes sense with the design of a sgfc.
azur, like you said, you don't even have a sgfc.. Space, your making me question if you have ever used one either. PussyFart is a little more reputable than you space. I think op should listen to him
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: PurePleasure]
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: azur]
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pussyfart also says not to fan unless you've misted 
stop disagreeing just because you're butthurt purep.
Muda, what I meant is that because of the great FAE in a sgfc there's actually not much benefit of fanning after a mist anyway. just another reason why you really dont need to fan even without misting.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20734554 - 10/21/14 05:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: azur]
#20734557 - 10/21/14 05:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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off-site link to kill off a debate? 

but I think OP has got his answers now anyway
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
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stop disagreeing just because you're butthurt purep.
Muda, what I meant is that because of the great FAE in a sgfc there's actually not much benefit of fanning after a mist anyway. just another reason why you really dont need to fan even without misting.
your getting of the point... You clearly suggested to not fan your sgfc after misting.. Pussyfart recommends fanning after misting, then misting again.. I never said anything about fanning whenever..
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: PurePleasure]
#20734616 - 10/21/14 05:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: pussyfart also says not to fan unless you've misted 
stop disagreeing just because you're butthurt purep.
Muda, what I meant is that because of the great FAE in a sgfc there's actually not much benefit of fanning after a mist anyway. just another reason why you really dont need to fan even without misting.
your getting of the point... You clearly suggested to not fan your sgfc after misting.. Pussyfart recommends fanning after misting, then misting again.. I never said anything about fanning whenever..
PF doesnt say that. read again.
why dont you rather tell us what happened when you used a sgfc and didnt fan after a mist? cause you clearly havent done it and you clearly havent understood how the sgfc works yet.
YOU DONT NEED TO FAN AFTER MISTING A SGFC! THEN OF COURSE YOU SHOULDNT FAN WHEN YOU HAVENT EVEN MISTED IT!!!
sit still and just suck up info for now maybe, you're gettting corrected all over the boards, why dont you show some humility and feel sorry for the hundreds of misinfo postts you've spewn out?
good damn noob havent even had a grow without bacteria in it yet. sit still and suck up some valuable info here now.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20734620 - 10/21/14 05:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I was agreeing with you.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20734649 - 10/21/14 05:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: but theres absolutely NO need to fan unless you've misted.
This is kind of ambiguous though. If you've misted in the morning and fan directly after and then again in 2 hours, you're still fanning after misting.
You should only fan DIRECTLY after misting?
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Fan every time after you mist, along with a few more times throughout the day. While I only mist 2-3 times per day, I tend to fan somewhere in the range of 5-6 times per day. This allows fresh air exchange and will keep your fruits very happy.
- EvilMushroom666 (TC)
I understand the holes provide FAE, and probably enough to keep the cakes happy, but wouldn't fanning obviously provide additional fresh air, Muda?
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It would but there's no need for it and fanning without misting will only dry shit out. I'm an FAE fanatic but I never fan anything. Mind you I don't use a SGFC either.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20734674 - 10/21/14 05:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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spacechildo said:
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PurePleasure said:
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spacechildo said: pussyfart also says not to fan unless you've misted 
stop disagreeing just because you're butthurt purep.
Muda, what I meant is that because of the great FAE in a sgfc there's actually not much benefit of fanning after a mist anyway. just another reason why you really dont need to fan even without misting.
your getting of the point... You clearly suggested to not fan your sgfc after misting.. Pussyfart recommends fanning after misting, then misting again.. I never said anything about fanning whenever..
PF doesnt say that. read again.
why dont you rather tell us what happened when you used a sgfc and didnt fan after a mist? cause you clearly havent done it and you clearly havent understood how the sgfc works yet.
YOU DONT NEED TO FAN AFTER MISTING A SGFC! THEN OF COURSE YOU SHOULDNT FAN WHEN YOU HAVENT EVEN MISTED IT!!!
sit still and just suck up info for now maybe, you're gettting corrected all over the boards, why dont you show some humility and feel sorry for the hundreds of misinfo postts you've spewn out?
good damn noob havent even had a grow without bacteria in it yet. sit still and suck up some valuable info here now.
bro... I legit cant fucking stand you.
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pussyfart also says not to fan unless you've misted 
I mean, will you make up your mind? And yes... everytime i have seen pussyfart comment about misting and fanning, he says to mist, fan, then mist again.. what are you talking about..? I only fan after misting so dont try to change what your trying to get across.. I never said anything about fanning more than your mist.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: MudaFuka]
#20734678 - 10/21/14 05:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said: It would but there's no need for it and fanning without misting will only dry shit out. I'm an FAE fanatic but I never fan anything. Mind you I don't use a SGFC either.
exactly! fanning just promotes more evaporation off the sub, FAE is the constant exchange of air that's going on!
oh and PP just do a search I'm so tired of trying to explain shit to you. this isnt your thread, make your own for your own Q's!
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20734722 - 10/21/14 06:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've never fanned anything, except my ass when i fart
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: azur]
#20734749 - 10/21/14 06:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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azur said: I've never fanned anything, except my ass when i fart
I like to let my shit marinate down there. Try this though man. when you and your girl are under the covers, fart, let it marinate. then act like your going to spit in the air. your girl will go under the covers to hide. bitches love stagnant farts
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Edited by PurePleasure (10/21/14 06:08 PM)
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: PurePleasure]
#20734763 - 10/21/14 06:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have never farted in front of a girl. That's nasty because it gives her the right to do so. Not cool. Well...one time i did. And it was silent and stinky. I blamed it on my then 5 month old. Ha ha
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spacechildo said: but theres absolutely NO need to fan unless you've misted.
This is kind of ambiguous though. If you've misted in the morning and fan directly after and then again in 2 hours, you're still fanning after misting.
its almost as dumb as "how to do your dishes"
1: wash them dishes. 2: dry them dishes. 3: wash them dishes.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: azur]
#20734777 - 10/21/14 06:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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azur said: I have never farted in front of a girl. That's nasty because it gives her the right to do so. Not cool. Well...one time i did. And it was silent and stinky. I blamed it on my then 5 month old. Ha ha
hahha. Yeah. I was just joshing. My girl out of 6 years farted in front of me once.. on accident, because i was tickling the fuck out of her. She knows me and girl farts dont mesh.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: azur]
#20734790 - 10/21/14 06:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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azur said: its almost as dumb as "how to do your dishes"
1: wash them dishes. 2: dry them dishes. 3: wash them dishes.
Word. If I didn't have TC's writing Teks that say "fan more than you mist" I wouldn't question the statement. I'll just fan for 30 seconds whenever I mist. I'm sure it'll be fine either way.
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azur said: its almost as dumb as "how to do your dishes"
1: wash them dishes. 2: dry them dishes. 3: wash them dishes.
Word. If I didn't have TC's writing Teks that say "fan more than you mist" I wouldn't question the statement. I'll just fan for 30 seconds whenever I mist. I'm sure it'll be fine either way.
The idea is just to give them evaporation off the surface, which is a pinning trigger. Yes fae and evaporation in sgfc is constant, but the more the merrier.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: PurePleasure]
#20734875 - 10/21/14 06:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Every one farts, men and women alike. Once you get married you can get pretty used to chick farts.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: MudaFuka]
#20734891 - 10/21/14 06:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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That is why I'm not married
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: azur]
#20734903 - 10/21/14 06:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I can think of a lot more reasons than that not to get married. What the fuck have I done.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: MudaFuka]
#20734955 - 10/21/14 06:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said: Every one farts, men and women alike. Once you get married you can get pretty used to chick farts.
we have been married for a year and she still doesnt fart bro. ( in front of me) its not the idea of it.. it just her farts will draw vomit. It throws her petite, cute, and innocent image off.
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Edited by PurePleasure (10/21/14 06:48 PM)
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: PurePleasure]
#20735150 - 10/21/14 07:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Have you got kids yet. watching your woman give berth pretty much ends any sort of cute innocent image.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: MudaFuka]
#20735201 - 10/21/14 07:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said: Have you got kids yet. watching your woman give berth pretty much ends any sort of cute innocent image.
yep. 1 2 yr old girl. i watched the doc cut her cooch with a pair of scissors  she bounced back so quick though it was easy to forget.. until you mentioned something
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: PurePleasure]
#20735273 - 10/21/14 07:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fuck that. I got lucky and the first was turned around so had to be a c section and then because the first was tge 2nd had to be. Yea kneegrows
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: PurePleasure]
#20735274 - 10/21/14 07:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said: Every one farts, men and women alike. Once you get married you can get pretty used to chick farts.
when a woman doesn't fart it comes out as drama Quote:
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azur said: its almost as dumb as "how to do your dishes"
1: wash them dishes. 2: dry them dishes. 3: wash them dishes.
Word. If I didn't have TC's writing Teks that say "fan more than you mist" I wouldn't question the statement. I'll just fan for 30 seconds whenever I mist. I'm sure it'll be fine either way.
The idea is just to give them evaporation off the surface, which is a pinning trigger. Yes fae and evaporation in sgfc is constant, but the more the merrier.
it's more less just a way to drop the rh quickly to make room for more evaporation to happen, not needed in a sgfc just something that helps, 30 seconds would be overkill IMO
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: cronicr]
#20735280 - 10/21/14 07:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cron, check your pm
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: azur]
#20735317 - 10/21/14 07:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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My lady is beautiful and the hottest babe I've ever been with, but her period farts are fucking disgusting.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: azur]
#20735329 - 10/21/14 07:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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azur said: Cron, check your pm
i've been dreading that all day lol, there is almost two pages lol..but ok ok
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Big Bear]
#20735335 - 10/21/14 07:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Big Bear said: My lady is beautiful and the hottest babe I've ever been with, but her period farts are fucking disgusting.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: cronicr]
#20735458 - 10/21/14 08:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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cronicr said: it's more less just a way to drop the rh quickly to make room for more evaporation to happen, not needed in a sgfc just something that helps, 30 seconds would be overkill IMO
Hm, what do you recommend then? 15?
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sure
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: cronicr]
#20735544 - 10/21/14 08:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: MudaFuka]
#20735611 - 10/21/14 08:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Man, I'm glad that argument is over.
Sorry for causing a fuck fest
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: ToxicDuck]
#20735631 - 10/21/14 08:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So...uh..like...when do i fan and mist? Seriously need to know like right fuckin now man. Please. Urgent. I don't want to fuck anything up
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: azur]
#20735658 - 10/21/14 09:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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azur said: So...uh..like...when do i fan and mist? Seriously need to know like right fuckin now man. Please. Urgent. I don't want to fuck anything up
I'll let you in on an old family secret that was passed down to me, it makes it so you NEVER have to mist again.. Piss on the myc, this creates a reaction that causes the myc to release a ton of moisture, effectively doing it's own job of misting itself.
You DO however, have to fan about 37 and a half times a day, but it's totally worth it.
(Please don't tell anyone, like I said it's an old family secret)
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: azur]
#20735719 - 10/21/14 09:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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azur said: So...uh..like...when do i fan and mist? Seriously need to know like right fuckin now man. Please. Urgent. I don't want to fuck anything up

"JUST FOLLOW THE FUCKING TEKS!"
*does exactly as Tek says*
"NO, THAT'S OVERKILL!!"
I'll fan for 13 seconds because it's an unlucky number and I like to live dangerously. You guys can keep talking about your girlfriend's shitting with the door open or whatever was going on here.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: weaksause]
#24866560 - 12/24/17 07:44 PM (7 years, 24 days ago) |
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I am on my first grow rn and using a myco bag with a micron filter...does rh have to be in the 90 and what not or can it still pin with rh in the 80s?
Ps brf cakes and using myco bag as fc sorry not much info fruiting this way...
Edited by Shroomer6sn7s (12/24/17 07:45 PM)
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