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PurePleasure
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mikecom]
#20711925 - 10/16/14 04:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mikecom said: 2x2 grid all around elevated 
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spacechildo
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mikecom]
#20711930 - 10/16/14 04:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nice! You should try to elevate it using jars or something, that's a bit on the short side. and have a total of 3-5" of perlite, even up to 6" often gives much better results than just 3"! I think you have 2 or soemthing?
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20711934 - 10/16/14 04:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: Nice! You should try to elevate it using jars or something, that's a bit on the short side. and have a total of 3-5" of perlite, even up to 6" often gives much better results than just 3"! I think you have 2 or soemthing?
oh yeah, that is shallow..
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: PurePleasure]
#20712025 - 10/16/14 05:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shouldn't the lid be see through?
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spacechildo
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shoulda coulda woulda. but 80-90% of the light comes from the sides anyway
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PurePleasure
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stareatclouds said: Shouldn't the lid be see through?
If your light is going directly on the lid.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Quexl]
#20712381 - 10/16/14 06:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quexl said: OP if you want to use humidifiers and stuff like that just get a martha greenhouse. They don't work with cakes, though.
You could grow in a bucket, an opaque bin, a cut open coke bottle, hell you can even grow without a FC at all -- if you can pay enough attention to them. The SG is just the most efficient way for someone with a full time job and a dozen cakes to do it. And ya, those cakes need more air.
I know you weren't addressing me but trying a Martha is something I've been interested for a while. I've UTSE and googled and all that jazz but can't find any of those plastic wardrobes anywhere online. I could just be blind
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: gooselips]
#20712463 - 10/16/14 06:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just look for four tier mini greenhouse on amazon and check out these teks
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13229947/page/2 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19148930 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16481462 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16956010#16956010 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18322939#18322939
I am working on moving to a greenhouse setup after I finish my tubs I'm working on. That being said, I suggest mastering the SGFC and cakes first before spending a bunch of money on a greenhouse and humidifiers and what not. If you want bigger yields I think monotubs are a great option. It's a little past the PF tek in difficulty and materials required, but a great segue in to the wonderful world of mushroom growing. For the time being, let's focus on making sure these cakes fruit right
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Big Bear]
#20712469 - 10/16/14 06:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oops just realized I wasn't addressing the OP. I'm pretty baked at the moment
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Big Bear]
#20712495 - 10/16/14 06:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lol I was wondering... I'm pretty new to cultivation too, and I wouldn't really be trying to do the Martha any time soon, just curious about it. Thanks for the info though!
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: gooselips]
#20713625 - 10/16/14 10:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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nice! but that hygromometer isnt accurate in that high of an RH and is pointless
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: gooselips]
#20713746 - 10/16/14 11:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Update with pics I currently have perlite in my starting fruiting chamber would it be bad to wait till current cakes fruit and I have them dunking to add more perlite bc I already transferred the cakes once I know there more resilient then earlier stages but I dont know if I should. the first bag I opened was in my first FC it will have to be rinsed and baked before added. My cakes have been in a fruiting chamber since Sunday constant 99 humidity and temp with lows at abt 67 to current 75 been in SGFC since yesterday I know patience is key but I'm just wondering Abt you guys average time till pins [url=https://files.shroomery.org/files/14-42/352376214-image.jpg]
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mikecom]
#20713862 - 10/17/14 12:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Put your light at a 45 degree angle on the side. It's not optimal to have it directly above, especially when your top isn't even see through.
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Mikecom
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Like this ? . Should I cut a square out of the lid and wrap with clear wrap and tape on and poke holes in to allow better lighting or leave the light like it is ?
Edited by Mikecom (10/17/14 02:30 AM)
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mikecom]
#20717093 - 10/17/14 07:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mikecom said: Should I cut a square out of the lid and wrap with clear wrap and tape on and poke holes in to allow better lighting or leave the light like it is ?
Though overhead lighting is optimal mushrooms will grow upward just fine with side lighting. Light is a secondary pinning trigger anyway (fae>light for pins). Don't cut the lid leave it as it is in the pic
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mushiez]
#20717183 - 10/17/14 07:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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overhead lighting is optimal?? 80% or so of light comes from the sides of the chamber!
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: Mushiez]
#20717277 - 10/17/14 07:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mushiez said:
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Mikecom said: Should I cut a square out of the lid and wrap with clear wrap and tape on and poke holes in to allow better lighting or leave the light like it is ?
Though overhead lighting is optimal mushrooms will grow upward just fine with side lighting. Light is a secondary pinning trigger anyway (fae>light for pins). Don't cut the lid leave it as it is in the pic 
Put your light at a 45 degree angle on the side. It's not optimal to have it directly above, especially when your top isn't even see through.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20717280 - 10/17/14 07:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: 80% or so of light comes from the sides of the chamber! 
In this case.
If you think about light count the surface area it hits. With a clear lid overhead light will cover more cake surface area than from either side, unless you have multiple lamps on the side. Not only that, the white perlite reflects downward light in all directions. But like I said, light is light no matter the direction...secondary pinning trigger.
Side lighting is fine, you can still have a great harvest with it. These cakes where side lit and I had no problems:

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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20717307 - 10/17/14 07:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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its not about being a pinning trigger its about light being very important for getting fat nice shrooms with big caps. mushrooms derive energy from light.
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Re: White fuzz on Brf cake advice [Re: spacechildo]
#20717350 - 10/17/14 08:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: its not about being a pinning trigger its about light being very important for getting fat nice shrooms with big caps. mushrooms derive energy from light.
No, mushrooms do not have chloroplasts they cannot in any way chemically derive energy from light. Light is a pinning signal & during colonization has a role in metabolic rate, that's it. Big flat caps have nothing to do with it especially with MS. It's all in the DNA. That's why clones look homogenous..and MS carries hundred of different morphologies.
Genetics genetics genetics
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