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Bush whacking
#20691410 - 10/12/14 02:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I love just wandering into unknown woods and surviving for a day or two. No weapons (excluding knives/snares) a hiking pack and the cloths on my back.
I usually do a google birds eye view of the area first but other than that I just storm in. I keep it simple and notch a tree in the direction I came from, and if I make a right turn I put a / left turn is a + . I've used this method in more than 20 miles of terrain (three day hike) and has never lead me astray.
Anyone else enjoy doing this? What are your methods?
Any suggestions on a machete to cut through branches up to three inches thick (not just dried up tall grass) willing to pay large cash for this item because I cannot seem to find anything of that quality...or of any quality. Opinions welcome and keep on keeping on
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Get you a good Calamus.
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How do you use it, just chew on the rootstock? Out of season yet?
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Not too keen on the notching technique. Maybe look into a compass, map, and GPS? What kind of snares do you use? How do you kill the animals once they are caught? Stabbing I suppose? Seems like that could get messy for something larger than a squirrel/rabbit.
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WHY would you want to backtrack the route you went in on?
You only see 1/2 the things you would if you return on a different route.
Grow up and STOP notching trees.
Edited by sweeper54 (10/16/14 06:55 AM)
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Quote:
goldcaphunter said: How do you use it, just chew on the rootstock? Out of season yet?
I don't think he's talking about Calamus/sweet flag.
But a knife I think is what he meant, perhaps he meant Camillus?
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I use it because it works. I usually use dead weight snares as I call them or just the classic spring snare. Usually I don't need to kill the animal because I only put them on small game trails with about a four to six in dhiameter noose. I tend to test it first to see if it will suffice for a kill.
If the animal is not dead a quick stab to the back of the neck usually does the trick.
As for the GPS I like to try and not use technology too much. Of course I carry a compass but notching works fine. The woods I go into are far to vast to go out another way.
I hike in for about a day then camp out for another few.
Also I would like to know why someone would think that not notching trees will make me "grow up"? That's just doesn't make any sense....
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Because it's a method a child would after they ran out of bread crumbs.
The bark of a tree is there to protect it from things that want to attack it. When you cut that protective outer layer, much like when you cut your skin, it is prone to infection.
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A good way to kill a tree is to chop ALL the bark off the base of the tree around the circumference... Not a little notch. Trees are more resistant than you are making them out to be. I'll leave it at that
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Re: Bush whacking [Re: 1234go]
#20757482 - 10/26/14 09:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
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goldcaphunter said: How do you use it, just chew on the rootstock? Out of season yet?
I don't think he's talking about Calamus/sweet flag.
But a knife I think is what he meant, perhaps he meant Camillus?
That's it.

I'm an idiot. I blame the drugs.
But, still, they're damn good blades.
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Worth buying?
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In my opinion, yes.
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Quote:
goldcaphunter said: A good way to kill a tree is to chop ALL the bark off the base of the tree around the circumference... Not a little notch. Trees are more resistant than you are making them out to be. I'll leave it at that
Neither does one person taking a piss in a stream pollute a river, or throwing your garbage in that river.
The environment is under stress and it doesn't need your childish wounds.
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Squirrels and caterpillar cause more damage to trees than my "childish wounds". Once you have a major in resource conservation and agricultural sciences come back and try to fix your misinformation.
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I ran it by a State Forester he thinks your childish also.
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Someones always better than someone else..... lol
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Real nice grammar. I can see your intellectual standards aren't up to par yet.
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Is that all you got?
Ever hear of "Leave no Trace"?
https://lnt.org/learn/7-principles
You are a whiney little child who is scared of losing his way in the woods.
Grow UP!
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Getting lost in the woods is something even the most experienced tracker should fear.
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Anyways. Back on topic here guys. Sorry for that squirmish between sweeper and I.
Has anyone ever seen one of these?

Considering buying one
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Re: Bush whacking [Re: Sundrop]
#20767739 - 10/29/14 12:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So freaking cool. I need to put some money aside for one of these.
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Put away LOTS of money
You need a hammock, a tarp, an under quilt and a suspension system.
Start by buying the book 'The Ultimate Hang' by Derek Hansen
check out the Hammock forum
https://www.hammockforums.net
Suspension systems
http://dutchwaregear.com
And for entertaining education check out shugemery
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Great links, thanks man. I was thinking of starting off with just a regular stuff sack hammock with a net over it and of course my sleeping bag. Working my way up to one of the higher end ones gradually. Great way to get off of the ground and easy to put away.
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You still need some insulation under you except on the warm nights. You can get a pad in some of them.
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Yeah, insulation is needed when it's cool, but I can do without the suspension system. That hammock I linked comes with a mosquito net, rain fly, and straps. It can be set up as a tent, chair, or hammock. (Can set it up as a tent without trees)
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Re: Bush whacking [Re: Sundrop]
#20773984 - 10/30/14 06:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Good points. What about with snow on the ground?
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I honestly wouldn't use it when there is snow on the ground (as a tent, but you could as a hammock with a nice pad), because it only has netting and a rain fly for protection. I'd use my alps mountaineering tent when snow is on the ground.
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Re: Bush whacking [Re: Sundrop]
#20781027 - 11/01/14 05:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes, forester here.
Sweeper is being a bit harsh about it, but he is right when it comes to basal wounds on trees. This is the most common way trees become infected. We constantly have to shut down camp grounds and remove infected and damaged trees because of people notching trees.
Get some decomposable flagging. It works great, is super cheap, and is highly visible. This will also help keep your knife sharp, which is much more important to survival than a bread crumb trail.
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Re: Bush whacking [Re: Sundrop]
#20794179 - 11/04/14 08:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have one of these, and it's bad ass.
Same one I own and use, and love it. The rain fly works perfectly in all sorts of rain/storms if you set it up right.
If it is under 50-55 degrees F I usually want a pad underneath me even with a 20 degree rated sleeping bag. The under draft really effects any part of your body that is in contact with the bottom, and will become uncomfortably cold real quickly.
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Re: Bush whacking [Re: dodgem]
#20804489 - 11/07/14 03:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hennessy hammock all the way! I have two! Fucking love them.

^^ Without the rainfly on it. Can't even remember what model that one is. I think the Explorer Ultralite Asym? I also got the extended silnylon rainflys for less weight and extra coverage. I've camped in that thing in torrential downpours and stayed bone dry. Thanks in part I think to the extended silnylon rainfly. I don't feel the stock rainflys give adequate enough coverage for crazy diagonal rain and shit. At least I feel much more comfortable with the extended ones.
And yes.. you DEFINITELY need either a closed cell foam pad, OR an underquilt if you want to camp under ~50 degree weather. As a general rule of thumb, hammock camping is going to feel ~10-20 degrees colder than it actually is in the air, since you have all that free air moving under you.. you definitely need some extra insulation in cooler weather.
And protip.. don't use a down sleeping bag in a hammock. As the side your weight is on has virtually no insulation value at all. Learned that shit the hard way. I love down bags but that should be reserved for sleeping on the ground. Unless you have a hefty underquilt to wrap under your hammock, then a down bag should be ok. But even with a close cell foam pad it doesn't really cut it in my experience. Synthetic sleeping bag for hammock camping, since you have insulation under you even when your weight is on it.
Waking up sweating on top, freezing on your back, is a weird fucking feeling. And could be dangerous in back country.
You can camp in freezing weather / snow with a hammock. But for that you pretty much NEED an underquilt.. and a good one costs about as much or more than the hammock will. Unless you are super crafty and can make your own. A closed cell foam pad will not really cut it for freezing temps in my experience... not enough coverage and not consistent enough, unless you chop up a couple of them and tape them together to make "wings" and shit. And then it basically kills the comfort of sleeping in a hammock in the first place.
The underquilt goes under the hammock, so it doesn't effect your comfort level inside the hammock, but provides a nice thick layer of insulation and dead air under you, like sleeping in a cocoon. It's the best option for cold weather camping in a hammock hands down, but a good underquilt will run you about $200-300. Last I checked and based on personal reviews.. Jack R better made the best underquilts for use with hennessys.
But hennessy themselves make a cheaper option, haven't experienced it personally, but seems good.. silnylon and an open cell foam pad that goes under the hammock, same principle as an underquilt - http://hennessyhammock.com/catalog/products/supershelter_4-season_insulation_system_1_zip/
Also for camping in REALLY cold weather.. it wouldn't hurt to have an overcover as well. I've seen/heard of people hammock camping in -40 degree weather with an underquilt, overcover, and synthetic bag rated for those temps.
And yeah gotta totally agree on the not notching trees thing.. that's not very cool. If you must mark your trail... like dude said, get some biodegradable flagging tape... it's DIRT CHEAP, and nuclear orange (or whatever neon color) so you can't possibly miss it. Actually works BETTER than notching... Can't say I'm a fan of just bushwhacking and hacking the fuck out of the forest either to clear a path either. Unless you are in the Jungle or thick ass growth with no possible trails anywhere.
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