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Tomacco
    #2066396 - 11/02/03 11:34 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

anyone else see this story on the news. some scientists grafted tobacco roots onto a tomato plant and the tomato leaves had nictotine in them, they suspect the actual tomato does too. I tried looking for a link but couldnt find one. i thought this was worth metioning though. hooray for super plants, i want to see somebody graft some mimosa roots to a marijuana plant :eek: ohhh the possiblities :grin:


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Re: Tomacco [Re: Infrared]
    #2066411 - 11/02/03 11:39 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Tobacco and tomato are in the same family (Solanaceae) along with datura, potatoes and capsicum
Cannabis and hops are the only plants in the Cannabaceae family so I doubt you could graft them onto anything else.


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Re: Tomacco [Re: zeta]
    #2066430 - 11/02/03 11:45 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I remember the simpsons where they did that pretty cool


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Re: Tomacco [Re: Infrared]
    #2066443 - 11/02/03 11:52 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I have never heard this. And on top of that tomatoes and the tomato leaves that have nicotine in them is not possible. Nicotine is a cellular product, just because a tomato plant is on a tobacco root stock won't make it have nicotine because the tomato plant would have to change it's genes, or the root stock somehow change the tomato plant genes to make nicotine as nictoine is cellular chemicals found locked up vacuoles that are not conducted around the plant like nutrients.


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Re: Tomacco [Re: neuro]
    #2066471 - 11/03/03 12:04 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

i dunno man, according to the news program i saw on fox, the scientists said the leaves had nicotine in them. i dont know much about plant physics and such, i was just posting what i heard off of the news.


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Re: Tomacco [Re: Infrared]
    #2066478 - 11/03/03 12:07 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

i was watching the news fox news actually EST, and it said nothing of the sort..i even did a search on google for it and came up with only simpsons fan sites.


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Re: Tomacco [Re: neuro]
    #2066489 - 11/03/03 12:10 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

i was watching fox chicago local news which is probably why you didnt see it. i did a search for it after i saw the show and same up empty too, maybe the fox chicago website has something about it. they made several simpsons refferences though, and thats what caught my attention to watch it.


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Re: Tomacco [Re: Infrared]
    #2066503 - 11/03/03 12:14 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

wouldn't you think MSNBC would have it too or associated press or even foxnews.com none of them had anything about it.


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Re: Tomacco [Re: neuro]
    #2066557 - 11/03/03 12:41 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I emailed www.foxchicago.com and asked them for a link about that story, hopefully they will give it to me by tommorow.


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Re: Tomacco [Re: Infrared]
    #2066734 - 11/03/03 02:00 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Tomacco [Re: Xochitl]
    #2066878 - 11/03/03 02:54 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

LOL
great pic Xochitl!
can i adopt it as my new pic?

who hasn't read already that text on erowid or anywhere else about a tomatoe plant grafted onto belladonnas roots and yielding POISONOUS tomatoes! it might be just lore but i wouldn't try those tomatoes myself!


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Re: Tomacco [Re: felixhigh]
    #2066958 - 11/03/03 03:28 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Tomacco [Re: Xochitl]
    #2067206 - 11/03/03 05:20 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Cool pic, did you draw it?

Have you got a link to this belladonna tomato text felixhigh?


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Re: Tomacco [Re: zeta]
    #2067214 - 11/03/03 05:28 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

[edit: mm...mmm...]


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Re: Tomacco [Re: canid]
    #2067421 - 11/03/03 09:16 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I don't believe it, plus tomato plant leaves are poisonous or at least make you really sick, so its useless anyway cause the fruit is the only edible part.


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Re: Tomacco [Re: Infrared]
    #2067936 - 11/03/03 02:09 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

If the graft even takes.. just because they're all solaneaecous plants doesn't mean they're graft compatable, intergenera grafting as well as breeding is hard. And again alkaloids are cellular products and remain in the cell. Also why is foxnewschicago the only one to carry this info. The story itself isnt' even self consistent.

Now if gene splicing and PCR and all sorts of other stuff were to take place, or even adding plastids to bacteria and infecting plant cells with it is possible, but grafting and expecting cellular metabolitic alkaloids to be present from the root stock into the scion, then no.


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Re: Tomacco [Re: zeta]
    #2068029 - 11/03/03 03:12 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

http://www.erowid.org/plants/datura/datura_info1.shtml
there you go zeta! i think thats it.


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Re: Tomacco [Re: zeta]
    #2068039 - 11/03/03 03:16 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Cool pic, did you draw it?




Nah, found it thru Google when I was printing out a bunch of Simpsons graphics - I'm a nerd like that :thumbup: 


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Re: Tomacco [Re: Infrared]
    #2069281 - 11/04/03 02:42 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Well Slashdot says it's true. And the fellow on the video link is wearing a lab coat, and as we all know, people in lab coats don't lie.


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Re: Tomacco [Re: omegablivion]
    #2069380 - 11/04/03 04:15 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

According to http://www.sensir.com/s_Applications/appnotes/app030.pdf nicotine is created in the roots and transported to the leaves
This whole thing seems pretty pointless though considering nicotine is destroyed in the stomach, and what are you going to do with tomatoes other than eat them?


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