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The Korean Language
    #20660261 - 10/05/14 07:54 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

READING, WRITING, AND SUBSEQUENTLY SPEAKING  KOREAN



Picture: Man wearing a traditional yahngban(양반) mask. Reference to aristocracy.





Introduction


In high school this is how I was taught the Korean language by native South Koreans. Some Asian languages seem as though they may be difficult to learn, but I promise you that Korean is easy. If you are interested in learning how to read, write, and subsequently speak the Korean language, then continue on.

*NOTE. It is important to write the Korean letters correctly. If you have trouble seeing the Korean letters, then zoom your screen in by pressing and holding control and then at the same time press the plus(+) button on the keyboard. If you want to zoom back out, press and hold control and then press the minus key.

This guide is not yet complete. I will post more instructions as time goes on.

Feel free to ask any questions.



START HERE


FIRST. Memorize (or semi memorize) the consonants and vowels and remember what general sound they make. Also memorize how to write the symbol. You will soon find out that the symbols are easy to learn and pronounce. There are very easy patterns to pick up on.

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CONSONANTS(19).

There are 19 Korean consonants. Count them. All the American letters represent the sound of the Korean consonant. If you see double American letters, it means that the Korean letter should be said harder and with more emphasis.

ㄱ g
ㄲ gg

ㄷ d
ㄸ dd

ㅈ j
ㅉ jj

ㅂ b
ㅃ bb

ㅎ h

ㄹ l

ㅇ ng, or no sound

ㄴ n

ㅁ m

ㅍ p

ㅊ ch

ㅌ t

ㅋ k

ㅅ s    (Or a 'd' sound. The 'd' sound is only used in certain grammatical circumstances.)
ㅆ ss  (Or a 'dd' sound. The 'dd' sound is only used in certain grammatical circumstances.)








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VOWELS(14).

There are 14 Korean vowels. Count them. All the American letters represent the sound of the Korean vowel. Note small patterns. A single line with two prongs sticking off indicates that the Korean letter starts with 'y'.

ㅗ oh
ㅛ yo


ㅏ ah
ㅑ yah


ㅓ uh
ㅕ yuh


ㅜ oo
ㅠ yoo


ㅐ eh
ㅒ yeh


ㅔ eh  (yes, this sounds the same as the one above)
ㅖ yeh


ㅣ ee


ㅡ eu (eu, as in p'u't)








Reading the word 'book'.


책 is the way book is spelled. Koreans stack their letters in order to make words. Read from left to right, and then down. If there is nothing to the right, then move straight down.

책 = book.

We read from left to right, and then down. We start at the consonant, ㅊ(ch). Then move right to the vowel, ㅐ(eh). Finally, move down to the consonant, ㄱ(g).

책 = book = 'cheg' = one syllable.

Check if you are correct with your pronunciation with Google Translate. Go to the link and press the speaker button under the word you want to hear. https://translate.google.com/#en/ko/book

NOTE: You now know how to read a Korean word. It should be noted that many words make up sentences, and just like in English, Korean sentences travel from left to right.



writing the word 'book' and the word 'baseball'


vowels cannot start a word or syllable by themselves. vowels always have to be preceded by a consonant.

Grab a pen and a piece of paper. In order to write 책(book), start by carefully writing the consonant ㅊ(ch). next, move right and write your vowel ㅐ(eh). So far you should have 채(che). Lastly, move below and write ㄱ(g).

The word 'book' should look like this on your paper 책.

책 = 'cheg' = book = one syllable.


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Next we write the word baseball. This exercise will help you understand the meaning of the Korean consonant 'ㅇ'.

야구 = yah'goo = baseball = two syllables

Remember, vowels always have to be preceded by a consonant. If you review the consonants you will see that none of them make the sound 'yah'. The sound 'yah'(ㅑ) is made with a vowel. Since vowels always have to be preceded by consonants, we start by using the consonant 'ㅇ', which in this case indicates no sound.

ㅇ + ㅑ = 야 = 'yah'.

The word 야구(baseball) is made up of two consonants (ㅇ,ㄱ) and two vowels (ㅑ,ㅜ). The word has two syllables.

Grab a pen and a piece of paper. First write the consonant ㅇ(no sound). Next, move right and write the vowel ㅑ(yah). So far we have 야 (yah). Move on to the second syllable, which will be written to the right of the first syllable. Start by writing the consonant ㄱ(g). Lastly, move bellow and write the vowel ㅜ(oo). You should have made 구(goo). The totality of the word should appear as such: 야구.

야(yah) + 구(goo) = 야구(yahgoo)


야 (first syllable) + 구(second syllable) = 야구 (two syllables all together.)

Thus, two syllables make the word 야구.

Listen to the recoding of this word to double check yourself: https://translate.google.com/#en/ko/baseball



SUMMARY


*In this instruction you learned:

*how Korean consonants and vowels sound. you also learned the shapes of Korean characters and how to start writing them.

*Koreans stack their letters in order to make words. Read from left to right, and then down. If there is nothing to the right, then move straight down.

*When writing, vowels always have to be preceded by a consonant.

*Sometimes the consonant 'ㅇ' can indicate no sound.

*Syllables make up words and are horizontally placed next to each other from left to right.


*Korean books read just like English books do - from left to right.


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Currently the Korean Language thread is analyzing a Korean Pop song. The song and lyrics can be found on the following page.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20660261/fpart/9/vc/1#20660261


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Re: Reading, writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
    #20660290 - 10/05/14 08:14 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

How to read and write 양반(yahngban).




This instruction will show you how the consonant 'ㅇ' can be used in two different ways.


The Consonant 'ㅇ' and Its Two Uses


FIRST USE OF 'ㅇ':


Remember, vowels always have to be preceded by a consonant. If you review the consonants you will see that none of them make the sound 'yah'. The sound 'yah'(ㅑ) is made with a vowel. Since vowels always have to be preceded by consonants, we start by using the consonant 'ㅇ', which in this case indicates no sound.

here are some examples of consonants followed by vowels.

*ㅇ + ㅑ = 야 = 'yah'.


*지 = jee


*채 = che


*우 = oo


*여 = yuh. Listen: https://translate.google.com/#ko/en/%EC%97%AC


IMPORTANTLY, when we start a word with any vowel sound, 'ㅇ' will always precede the vowel, such as in 야.



SECOND USE OF 'ㅇ':

If you review your consonants you will see that 'ㅇ' can also make the sound 'ng' (such as the ng, in ki'ng').  Whenever you use the consonant 'ㅇ' after a vowel, it will have the 'ng' sound.

THUS: There are two ways to use the 'ㅇ' consonant. If used before a vowel, it remains silent. If used after a vowel, it possesses the 'ng' sound.





READING 양반(yahngban)


The word 양반(yahngban) has 5 consonants (ㅇ,ㅇ,ㅂ,ㄴ) and two vowels (ㅑ,ㅏ). The word has two syllables.

양반 = yahng'bahn = Korean folk mask. Two syllables.

Read from left to right, and then down. If there is nothing to the right, then move straight down.

We start reading with the first consonant of the first syllable, 'ㅇ'. Because 'ㅇ' is used before a vowel, it remains silent. Next, move right to the vowel ㅑ(yah). So far we have 야(yah). Lastly, move down and notice the 'ㅇ'. Since it comes after a vowel, it possesses an 'ng' sound. That is, 양(yahng).

양 (yahng) = first syllable of the word.

For the second syllable we start at the top left with the consonant, 'ㅂ'(b). Next, we move on to the vowel, 'ㅏ'(ah). So far we have 바(bah). Lastly, move down and read the last consonant, 'ㄴ'(n).

반 bahn = second syllable of the word.

양 + 반 = 양반 = yahng'ban.

Check and make sure you are pronouncing the word correctly. Go to Google translator and press the audio button under the word you want to hear. https://translate.google.com/#en/ko/%EC%96%91%EB%B0%98






Writing yahngban.


REVIEW

The word 'yangban' starts with 'yah'. The 'yah' sound is made by using the Korean vowel 'ㅑ'. vowels always have to be preceded by a consonant. If you review the consonants you will see that none of them make the sound 'yah'. The sound 'yah'(ㅑ) is made with a vowel. Since vowels always have to be preceded by consonants, we start by using the consonant 'ㅇ', which in this case indicates no sound. Thus, when we start a word with any vowel sound, 'ㅇ' will always precede the vowel, such as in 야.

ㅇ(silent, consonant) + ㅑ(yah, vowel) = yah

Remember, whenever you use the consonant 'ㅇ' after a vowel, it will have the 'ng' sound.


APPLICATION

Grab a writing utensil and a piece of paper.

For the first syllable, start by writing the consonant 'ㅇ'(silent). Next, move right and write the vowel 'ㅑ'(yah). So far you should have '야'. Lastly, move down and write the consonant 'ㅇ'(ng). Your paper should show '양'.

For the second syllable, start by writing the consonant 'ㅂ'(b). Next, move right and write the vowel 'ㅏ'(ah). So far you should have '바'. Lastly, move down and write the consonant 'ㄴ'(n). your paper should show: '반'.

양 + 반 = 양반 = yahngban = Korean folk mask



SUMMARY


This instruction showed you how the consonant 'ㅇ' can be used in two different ways. If used before a vowel, it is silent. If used after a vowel, it possesses the sound 'ng'.

When we start a word with any vowel sound, 'ㅇ' will always precede the vowel, such as in 야(yah), 우(oo), 애(eh), or 오(oh). There are many combinations.







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Currently the Korean Language thread is analyzing a Korean Pop song. The song and lyrics can be found on the following page.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20660261/fpart/9/vc/1#20660261


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Re: Reading, writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
    #20661474 - 10/05/14 01:20 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

PRACTICE READING AND WRITING


음악 = music = eum'ahg. Two syllables. Noun.

음 = euhm.

악 = ahg

Listen to how this word sounds. Press the audio button on the Google translator page. https://translate.google.com/#en/ko/music


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학교 = school = hag'gyo. Two syllables. Noun.

학 = hag

교 = gyo

https://translate.google.com/#en/ko/school

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나는 = I am = nah'neun. Two syllables.

나 = nah

는 = neun

https://translate.google.com/#en/ko/school.

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:mushroom2:SURPRISE WORD:mushroom2:



좋 = good = joh. One syllable.

This word is stacked with three letters. The reason this is stacked is because the vowel 'ㅗ' made up of a horizontal line. Remember, Read from left to right, and then down. If there is nothing to the right, then move straight down.


ㅈ = j
ㅗ = oh
ㅎ = h

좋 = joh

https://translate.google.com/#ko/en/%EC%A2%8B

Certain vowels are always written underneath the initial consonant. Those vowels include any vowel based from a horizontal line. The horizontal line vowels are: ㅠ,ㅜ,ㅗ,ㅛ, ㅡ.

Conversely, vertical lined vowels are placed to the right of the initial consonant. These vowels include ㅐㅒㅔㅖㅕ,ㅓ,ㅏ,ㅑ,ㅣ.



SUMMARY


In this instruction you learned that Korean letters can be stacked. Certain vowels are always written underneath the initial consonant. Those vowels include any vowel based from a horizontal line. The horizontal line vowels are: ㅠ,ㅜ,ㅗ,ㅛ, ㅡ.

Conversely, vertical lined vowels are placed to the right of the initial consonant. These vowels include ㅐㅒㅔㅖㅕ,ㅓ,ㅏ,ㅑ,ㅣ.




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Currently the Korean Language thread is analyzing a Korean Pop song. The song and lyrics can be found on the following page.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20660261/fpart/9/vc/1#20660261


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Re: Reading, writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
    #20661530 - 10/05/14 01:33 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

RUDIMENTARY SENTENCE STRUCTURE



나는 음악을 좋아.

나는(I)    음악을(music)    좋아(like, good, favorite).

The sentence essentially says, "I like music," but Korean sentence structure is different from English. Notice that they ordered their words as such: I - music - like.

Listen to what the sentence sounds like using Google translator. https://translate.google.com/#en/ko/I%20like%20music.

RUDIMENTARY VOCABULARY


*나 = I

*음악 = music

*좋 = good.


SUMMARY


In this instruction you learned that English and Korean sentence structures are not built the same way.



The Korean word 'music' appears in this poster. Can you find it?



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Currently the Korean Language thread is analyzing a Korean Pop song. The song and lyrics can be found on the following page.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20660261/fpart/9/vc/1#20660261


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Re: Reading, writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
    #20664587 - 10/06/14 12:51 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

dude, I love you!  thanks!  this is sweet. im trying to learn Korean and I can read it pretty well, but I don't know too many words and stuff.  ill read through this thread later, but thanks man!


btw, I have a lot of trouble distinguishing the difference between the single and double consonants like

ㄱ g
ㄲ gg
ㄷ d
ㄸ dd
ㅂ b
ㅃ bb
ㅈ j
ㅉ jj          is it just something ill get with experience?

also, I sometimes notice that Koreans pronounce "ㅅ" usually as an "s" sound, but sometimes a "sh" sound.  why is that?


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Re: Reading, writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: Shroomin Capote]
    #20664956 - 10/06/14 05:36 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Here is an answer to your question. I answered you other question about the 'ㅅ' and 'sh' sound in the next post below. Keep practicing!

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btw, I have a lot of trouble distinguishing the difference between the single and double consonants like

ㄱ g
ㄲ gg
ㄷ d
ㄸ dd
ㅂ b
ㅃ bb
ㅈ j
ㅉ jj




This is the general rule I was taught, which works for me:

In order to pronounce the double consonants, you simply use more accentuation. That is, the double consonant will be said harder, and with more force.

In conclusion, simply pronounce the double consonants more sharply, and with more force.


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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20660261/fpart/9/vc/1#20660261


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Re: Reading, writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
    #20682960 - 10/10/14 06:22 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

The Consonant 'ㅅ' and the 's' or 'sh' sound


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Shroomin Capote said:
also, I sometimes notice that Koreans pronounce "ㅅ" usually as an "s" sound, but sometimes a "sh" sound.  why is that?






It turns out that certain vowels will indicate when the consonant 'ㅅ' is to be used with the 'Sh' sound.

Here is a list of those vowels. There are 7 of them:

ㅛ, ㅠ, ㅣ, ㅕ, ㅖ, ㅒ, andㅑ.


So, if we review together.

쇼 = shyoh

슈 = shyoo. https://translate.google.com/#ko/en/%EC%8A%88.

시 = shee

셔 = shyuh

샤 = shyah. https://translate.google.com/#ko/en/%EC%83%A4.


A quick tip for remembering this is that vowels made with two prongs will be pronounced with the 'sh' sound. NOTE: In addition 'ㅣ' has no prongs, but it still gets the 'sh' sound.



Reference Chart




REVIEW


샤인 = shya'een. https://translate.google.com/#ko/en/%EC%83%A4%EC%9D%B8.

사고 = sah'go

시누 = shee'noo.

수 = soo. (there is only one prong on the vowel) https://translate.google.com/#ko/en/%EC%88%98.

마 = mah

세 = seh

슈 = Shyoo.

셔 = shyuh

:mushroom2: 섀 = 'Shyeh'

셰 = 'Shyeh'


Periodic Table of the Korean Alphabet


This periodic table pretty much sums up the reading and writing aspect of the Korean language. I used a similar style of learning when I began practicing. I placed phonetic sounds for each character in the Korean alphabet. This is essentially what they are showing you. Remember to read the phonetic spelling for each character.

Interestingly, number 17 on the periodic table begins a word with a hard 'S', but, if the character is placed at the end of the word, the sound will be 'T'.

I feel that numbers 20 - 30 are not essential to look at when you are initially learning the Korean alphabet. I don't often run into characters 20-30 when I am reading.

Enjoy.

:mushroom2:



:mushroom2:


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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20660261/fpart/9/vc/1#20660261


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Re: Reading, writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
    #20683968 - 10/10/14 12:54 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

sweet. thanks




Grammar Particles



먹습니다.

The particles in this sentence, "I am eating rice," are highlighted





REVIEW:

A basic Korean sentence is placed in the order of 'subject object verb'. Note that the order of the words differs from English. New sentence compositions can be confusing, but when one learns about grammatical particles, it becomes less confusing. Grammatical particles let us know which word in the sentence is the subject or object. In this sentence 는 is the subject particle and 을 is the object particle.

나는 음악을 좋아합니다.

Subject Object Verb.

I Music Like.







Subject Particles: 은/는

The subject particles indicate the subject of the sentence.

For example, 나는 밥을 먹습니다. "I am eating rice."

나 is the subject because 는 is placed after it. Whenever 은/는 are placed next to a word, it is an indication of the sentence's subject.

은 and 는 are the same subject particles used in different forms. If the word preceding the particle ends with a vowel, the subject particle will be 는. If the word preceding the particle ends with a consonant, the subject particle will be 은.


Examples:

1.)

저는 밥을 먹습니다. "I am eating rice."

In this sentence the subject particle 는 was used to indicate that 나 was the subject of the sentence. The particle form 는 was used because the sentence ended with a vowel (ㅏ).

2.)

당신은 밥을 먹습니까? "Are you eating rice?"

In this sentence the subject particle 은 was used to indicated that 당신 was the subject of the sentence. The particle form 은 was used because the sentence ended with a consonant (ㄴ).

3.)

당신은 저를 시랑합나까? "Do you love me?"

In this sentence the subject is you, which is indicated by attaching 은 onto the end of 당신.




Object Particles: 을/를

The object particles indicate the object of the sentence.

The particles 을 and 를 are the same object particles used in different forms. Use 을 if the preceding word ends with a consonant. Use 를 if the preceding word ends with a vowel. 


Examples:

1.)

당신은 저를 시랑합나까? "Do you love me?"

The object of this sentence is 저(I, me). This is indicated by attaching 를 onto 저. The particle 를 is used because the preceding word ends with a vowel.

2.)

저는 오후에 사촌을 만나습니다. "I am meeting my cousin in the afternoon."

The object of the sentence is 사촌(cousin). This is indicated by attaching 을 to the object. The particle 을 is used because the preceding word ends with a consonant.




Location/Time Particle: 에

The location/time particle 에 is used to indicate time or place.


Examples:

1.)

방에 책상을 있습니다. "There is a desk in the room"

In this sentence a location is indicated by attaching 에 onto 방(room). You can also see that the subject of the sentence is 책상(desk) by noticing that 을 is attached to it.

2.)

집에 개를 있습니다. "There is a dog in the house."

In this sentence a location is indicated by attached 에 onto 집(house).


:mushroom2:.)

저는 오후에 사촌을 만나습니다. "I am meeting my cousin in the afternoon."

*The subject in this sentence is 저(I). The subject is identified by noticing the grammar particle 는.

*The object of this sentence is 사촌(cousin). The object is Identified by the grammar particle 을.

*Time is indicated in this sentence by using the word 오후(afternoon) and attaching 에, which is the grammar particle for time and place.


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
    #20689706 - 10/11/14 05:14 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

correct me if im wrong, but in the word 책 doesn't the letter ㄱ make a very soft "t" sound when on the bottom of a syllable?


nd? Perhaps I can show you why it is not  a 't' sound.




Interpreting a Korean Pop Song


친구야, 삼 노래를 권했습니다. 괜찮아입니다?

여기 Shroomin Capote의 선택입니다.우리 해야 비판적으로 생각합니다. 단어를 정의합니다 주세요.

I will post our translations next to the Hangul Lyrics. After we have translated the lyrics I will look up a more proper translation so that we can compare our work.

Philtre(필터) - Last Scene(라스트 씬)


HANGUL LYRICS

(female voice)

모든 말들이 다 거짓말 같고
all the words are lies.
이젠 아무것도 믿을 수 없네
I cannot trust anything anymore.

(male voice)

거짓말들, 떨리는 눈빛
Lies, trembling eyes.
머뭇거리며 둘러댔던 끔찍한 변명들, 거지같은
Hesitate making up an awful excuse, begging.
넌 퍽이나 머리 아픈척하며
your intense head pain is false
얘기를 돌리곤 했었지
It wasn't my turn to talk
난 느꼈어, 남 같은 거리감을

언젠가 버림받을 것 같아서
나 더 세게 널 붙잡았어
끝이란 낭떠러지 앞에 서서
나는 두려워서 눈 꼭 감았어
나 알았어, 숨기는 거
다른 사람이 네 목에 남긴 흔적
다 알면서도 나는 모르는 척
바보처럼 난 다 참았어

넌 알았어? 네 옆에서 나 속으로 끙끙 앓았어
자꾸 들리는 너에 대한 더러운 얘기들
듣기 싫어 두 귀를 닫았어
약간의 기대, 희미한 믿음,
지금의 날 버티게 하는 힘은
그거면 됐는데, 충분했는데
이제 끝내자는 네 이야기는
날 밑바닥까지 무너트려
하나 남은 촛불마저 꺼뜨려
남은 건 칠흑 같은 어둠뿐
지독한 고독이 추워 움츠러들어
내 입은 말하는 법을 잊은 듯
계속 한숨만 뱉지
난 너만을 그리는 붓
너 없는 내 삶은 공허한 백지

모든 말들이 다 거짓말 같고
이젠 아무것도 믿을 수 없네
이게 끝이라는 게 견딜 수 없고
부질없는 미움이 가슴 깊이 남아

'끝' 한 음절의 단어
볼 장 다 봤다는 뜻, 시작의 반어
그림을 그리듯 설명하자면
한 장만 남기고 다 뜯긴 12월의 달력
아직 내 시간은 추운 겨울에서 멈췄고
넌 시작했지 우리가 했던걸
그 사람과의 또 다른 사계절
넌 새로운 봄, 난 계속 너만을 바라봄,
네 마음은 날아가는 깃털, 난 물에 젖은 솜

모든 말들이 다 거짓말 같고
이젠 아무것도 믿을 수 없네
이게 끝이라는 게 견딜 수 없고
부질없는 미움이 가슴 깊이 남아





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    #20689729 - 10/11/14 05:19 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

It is pronounced at a g sound. 책 = cheg.

Why did you believe that it was a 't' sound?





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    #20689732 - 10/11/14 05:19 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

XuL,  you're korean ?


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    #20689744 - 10/11/14 05:22 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Using the Word 'and'


The word and can be used in two different ways. You use 와 or 과 based on whether the preceding word ends with a consonant or a vowel. If the preceding word ends with a consonant then you will use the form of 과. If the preceding noun ends in a vowel, then you will use the form of 와.


example 1. 나는 밥 케이크를 좋아한다 = I like rice and cake.

In example one the 과 form of 'and' was used because the preceding noun ends with a consonant. 




example 2. 나는 타코 케이크를 좋아한다 = I like tacos and cake.

In example one the 와 form of 'and' was used because the preceding noun ends with a vowel.


Listen to the translation of example 2.

https://translate.google.com/#ko/en/%EB%82%98%EB%8A%94%20%ED%83%80%EC%BD%94%EC%99%80%20%EC%BC%80%EC%9D%B4%ED%81%AC%EB%A5%BC%20%EC%A2%8B%EC%95%84%ED%95%9C%EB%8B%A4


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    #20689749 - 10/11/14 05:23 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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It is pronounced at a g sound. 책 = cheg.

Why did you believe that it was a 't' sound? P




ive heard that there are several letters that make a soft "t" sound when on the bottom (I wasn't 100% sure that ㄱ is one).  I do know that ㅅ is one of them though


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    #20689830 - 10/11/14 05:44 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

No I'm not korean,  but I have lots of korean friends.  I love korean food.


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ive heard that there are several letters that make a soft "t" sound when on the bottom (I wasn't 100% sure that ㄱ is one).  I do know that ㅅ is one of them though




Yes sir, you are correct.

If the consonants 'ㅅ' or 'ㅆ' are on the bottom of the syllable, then it will get that 't' sound. Although there is one stipulation I will explain later. Perhaps together we could create the lesson to explain it? I have been looking for someone to help me on this project. I will e-mail you.

How far along are you? I am no master either. We need some kind of test. hahaha.





How do you practice? What Korean texts are you reading?
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No I'm not korean,  but I have lots of korean friends.  I love korean food.




You should jump in this thread and learn some Korean. What do you say?


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    #20692474 - 10/12/14 12:06 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I actually know  korean pretty well. Learned a loy from my friends. You? What interests you about korean culture so much?


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    #20692614 - 10/12/14 12:41 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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I actually know  korean pretty well. Learned a loy from my friends. You? What interests you about korean culture so much?





That's awesome that other people on here are involved with the Korean language. Would you want to upload a lesson into this thread? You some kind of short sentence or something? Anything.

:mushroom2:


I visited there a long time ago. I loved the people. They were so nice to me. I went to church service and a youth group meeting and it was totally unreal. I also had 3 Korean roommates in high school. They were extremely kind to me. They went out of their way to help me learn Korean. It was one of those roommates who took me to his home in Korea. His family was so generous to me.

I made a lot of close friendships with some Koreans during high school and so I would like to go back and visit them one day. I kind of want to travel around Korea in my lifetime. I want my place here in America, but I want to adventure in Korea. It is a very beautiful place. I like the small cities that are more quiet. 

Also, I would like to keep practicing until I am somewhat decent at constructing more complicated sentences. If I ever have a child, he/she will be raised with the English language and the Korean language.


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    #20692633 - 10/12/14 12:46 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

im pretty much a total noob at Korean so there isn't much that id be able to contribute, but ill keep an eye out on this thread for sure


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    #20693345 - 10/12/14 03:33 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

안영하새요! Means hello pronoucnced "ahn young ha sae yo"

That's pretty cool you've been to korea . Its funny you mention youthgroup as well. I ve definitely sbeen to one of those and remember playing volleyball against other church groups haha...oh memories...


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    #20693357 - 10/12/14 03:36 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

"In high school I went to Korean and roomed with Koreans. They taught me the language. I also visited Korea."

What do u mean you went to high school in korean and roomed with koreans?


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    #20698170 - 10/13/14 05:14 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

XuL?you there buddy?


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    #20698871 - 10/13/14 07:50 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Cool. So, you have gone to Korea as well?

Where did you go to? Who did you travel there with?


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"In high school I went to Korean and roomed with Koreans. They taught me the language. I also visited Korea."

What do u mean you went to high school in korean and roomed with koreans?





I went to boarding school and there I had two different Korean rommates. In boarding school there were many international students. Of those international students, Koreans made up a large part.

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    #20700213 - 10/14/14 03:16 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Yea we can write korean back and forth, how did you end up going to boarding school in korea being a scottish irish? It doesn't really seem like a common thing you hear about.

AND Yes I have been to korea as well.  I Was in Seoul as well as Busan.  BUSAN is considered the country side.  The people and food in busan is spectacular.

잘지내?


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    #20700334 - 10/14/14 05:13 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Yea we can write korean back and forth, how did you end up going to boarding school in korea being a scottish irish? It doesn't really seem like a common thing you hear about.

AND Yes I have been to korea as well.  I Was in Seoul as well as Busan.  BUSAN is considered the country side.  The people and food in busan is spectacular.






The boarding school was in America.

I know Busan - South East - near the beach. One of my old roommates is from there. When I visited I stayed in the city of Anyang, which is just South of Seoul. I also visited many other cities.

How did you find your way to Korea anyway? Who did you go with?


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잘지내?





예, 나는 좋은입나다. 잘지내?

당신의 직업은 무엇어요?

나는 학생입나다. 나는 심리학을 공부한다.

오늘은 시험이있다!

ㅎㅎㅎㅎ

:cheers:


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    #20702944 - 10/14/14 05:21 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Haha good luck on your test!

나는 일을 열씨미 해요.
공부시러서줏갯다!!


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    #20703412 - 10/14/14 07:05 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Haha good luck on your test!

나는 일을 열씨미 해요.
공부시러서줏갯다!!





You understood me. Very cool mate.


I am not sure I follow you.

I am not sure what 열씨미 is. What is this?

Are you studying something? 당신을 무엇을 공부?


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    #20705024 - 10/15/14 03:55 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

열씨미 means with a lot of effort.  Not sure if I I spelt it correctly. 

And below that means "I hate studying so much that I wanna die " lol

Koreans use a very good amount of similies and methaphors to describe the way they feel . And the most coming thing people like to say is 아줏갯다. Meaning I feel like I'm gonna die.


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    #20724622 - 10/19/14 01:57 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Do you want to try it from the top?

I have been studying a bit and I am getting better.

We can start at introductions and the such?


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    #20724869 - 10/19/14 03:09 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

안녕하십니까 제 이름은 Shroomin Capote 입니다


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    #20724978 - 10/19/14 03:31 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

요후ㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜ ^_^


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    #20725049 - 10/19/14 03:47 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

짜장면


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    #20725091 - 10/19/14 04:01 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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안녕하십니까 제 이름은 Shroomin Capote 입니다




예, 안녕하세요.

만나서 반가워요.

Shroomin Capote씨, 어니 나라 사람이에요?

저는 미국 사람이에요. ㅎㅎㅎ.

Sponge Bob 좋아한다?



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요후ㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜ ^_^





filthyShroomz, 어니 나라 사람이에요?

저는 미국 사람이에요.


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    #20725199 - 10/19/14 04:27 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

네 spongebob 좋아요

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저는 미국 사람이에요




저도요


lol this is pretty much the extent of my Korean atm. im thinking about getting a book to help me learn


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    #20725339 - 10/19/14 05:03 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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lol this is pretty much the extent of my Korean atm. im thinking about getting a book to help me learn





Here are awesome lectures for free.

http://v1.seemile.com/renewal/package_list.jsp?pkg_no=21


Here!

This is great. It's from a University in Korea. It's free and very useful.

They have lesson plans complete with reading, listening, grammar lessons, and tests.

http://korean.sogang.ac.kr/




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감사합니다!


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    #20727670 - 10/20/14 05:05 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

저는 한국 사람이애요


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    #20752486 - 10/25/14 05:14 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Ummmm......어디야?


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    #20762636 - 10/28/14 06:08 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Ummmm......어디야?



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감사합니다!





Hello friends.

Do you guys want to make a list of vocabulary words together? How about 21 words? We can all choose 7.

That way we will know some common terminology to talk to each other with.

I am also going to post more information about sentence structures. This should help us bring together our conversations.

P.S. Thanks for taking so much interest in the thread. You guys are the thread!



Alright... Here are my 7 words. Please post your 7 words and I will post all the 21 words as one list. Please post the English version and the Korean version! :stoned:


1.) 나 or 저 -- I. pronoun

2.) 먹다 -- to eat. verb.

3.) 점심 -- lunch. noun.

4.) 아침식사 -- breakfast. noun.

5.) 쓰다 -- to write. verb.

6.) 버섯 -- mushroom. noun.

7.) 마리워나 -- marijuana. noun.



I will start memorizing the vocabulary that you post. I will also try to use it to communicate with you. Even if our sentences are not correct, I think we should still attempt to understand each other. In time we will get better!

:mushroom2:


Remember the basic Korean sentence is ordered as: subject, object, verb.

For example: I lunch ate = 나는 점심을 먹었다.


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    #20763870 - 10/28/14 01:31 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

1.) 나 or 저 -- I. pronoun

2.) 먹다 -- to eat. verb.

3.) 점심 -- lunch. noun.

4.) 아침식사 -- breakfast. noun.

5.) 쓰다 -- to write. verb.

6.) 버섯 -- mushroom. noun.

7.) 마리워나 -- marijuana. noun.

8.) 너 = You

9.) 우리= we/us

10.) 맥주= beer

11.) 학교= school

12.) 똥= shit/poop

13.) 배고파= hungry

14.) 잠을 자다  or  자다= to sleep

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맥주과 마리워나 좋아해요!  (과 = "and" in this sentence)



example: 나는 타코와 케이크를 좋아한다





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    #20791430 - 11/04/14 07:21 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Here is the list we can start studying. Feel free to say anything you want in Korean. I will try to interpret it and write back to you.

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1.) 나 or 저 -- I. pronoun

2.) 먹다 -- to eat. verb.

3.) 점심 -- lunch. noun.

4.) 아침식사 -- breakfast. noun.

5.) 쓰다 -- to write. verb.

6.) 버섯 -- mushroom. noun.

7.) 마리워나 -- marijuana. noun.

8.) 너 = You

9.) 우리= we/us

10.) 맥주= beer

11.) 학교= school

12.) 똥= shit/poop

13.) 배고파= hungry

14.) 잠을 자다  or  자다= to sleep

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맥주과 마리워나 좋아해요!  (과 = "and" in this sentence)







AND -

I was looking up the Korean word 'and'. The word is listed as 과. But it is important to know that it can be used in two different forms. You use 와 or 과 based on whether the preceding noun ends with a consonant or a vowel. If the preceding noun ends with a consonant then you will use the form of 과. If the preceding noun ends in a vowel, then you will use the form of 와.


example 1. 나는 음식과 케이크를 좋아한다 = I like food and tacos.

example 2. 나는 타코와 케이크를 좋아한다 = I like tacos and cake.

Your sentence: 맥주과 마리워나 좋아해요!  (과 = "and" in this sentence)

Your sentence with corrections: 나는 맥주 마리화나를 좋아한다 = I like beer and marijuana.

과 must be changed to 와 due to the grammatical rule explained above.

I will write you back soon and we can try out our new words and practice the word 'and'. :mushroom2:


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    #20792383 - 11/04/14 01:21 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

마리와나 is just an english pronounciation of the word marijuana in korean. The right word for marijuana in the korean language is 대마초


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    #20793606 - 11/04/14 06:20 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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마리와나 is just an english pronounciation of the word marijuana in korean. The right word for marijuana in the korean language is 대마초




Thanks!

Do you want to add some other words you like? I am compiling a list so that we can study vocabulary together. Interested?


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    #20805986 - 11/07/14 02:07 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Shroomincapote, 어떻개지내?

너는 죽은?

요즈음, 나는 도서관에 살고있다. 나는 심리학와 대마초를 공부한다. ㅎㅎㅎㅎ

어휴, 내 임대료가 높다. 나는 가난한 입나다!

괜찮아.


....

내가 영화를 보았다. Night Crawler입니다. 나는 Night Crawler를 좋아. 이 8/10입니다.


What's up with you?


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    #20806905 - 11/07/14 06:17 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

man, I am not really up to that level yet. LOL I had to paste that into google translate


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    #20807238 - 11/07/14 07:33 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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man, I am not really up to that level yet. LOL I had to paste that into google translate





That is good practice though. I started using google translate a lot, and I still do, but not as much. After a while I start to get the hang of it. The thing is, you have to put time in to constructing sentences. You also have to think critically and remember common themes. It's a fun language to discover. Even 45 minutes a week makes a difference.

How did you make it to the rudimentary level, but not any further than that?


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    #20808351 - 11/08/14 12:54 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I haven't really formally studied it or put too much time into it.  when I get my degree im thinking about going to korea to teach English for a year or so.  ill definitely get more into it before  then though


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    #20808731 - 11/08/14 04:57 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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I haven't really formally studied it or put too much time into it.  when I get my degree im thinking about going to korea to teach English for a year or so.  ill definitely get more into it before  then though




It's all good.

Now, I suppose I am left to learn alone in this thread.

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    #20808806 - 11/08/14 05:49 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Anyone try 김치? ( Kim chee)


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    #20808892 - 11/08/14 06:50 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Anyone try 김치? ( Kim chee)




I tried it when I was younger. I didn't appreciate it much because I did not like spicy foods, but now I think my opinion may differ. I have been eating a lot of spicy foods lately.

I wouldn't mind trying it again.

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    #20809478 - 11/08/14 10:46 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I love it.


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    #20809689 - 11/08/14 11:43 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

ill still try to learn shit here, but im just gonna be kinda slow and wrong a lot


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    #20809955 - 11/08/14 01:04 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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ill still try to learn shit here, but im just gonna be kinda slow and wrong a lot





That is okay. I am wrong a lot too. But we can help each other. :stoned:

Here, I found this.

Today I learned so much Korean I can't even tell you. I finally understand how to use particles. They are MASSIVE clues to how sentences work.

Here guys, check this out.

http://v1.seemile.com/renewal/package_list.jsp?pkg_no=21


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    #20812775 - 11/09/14 05:38 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I cant believe I stumbled upon this thread.

I live in Korea now. I'm conversational, not yet fluent, but am willing to help out if anyone has any questions.


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    #20812900 - 11/09/14 07:13 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Grammar Particles



먹습니다.

The particles in this sentence, "I am eating rice," are highlighted





REVIEW:

A basic Korean sentence is placed in the order of 'subject object verb'. Note that the order of the words differs from English. New sentence compositions can be confusing, but when one learns about grammatical particles, it becomes less confusing. Grammatical particles let us know which word in the sentence is the subject or object. In this sentence 는 is the subject particle and 을 is the object particle.

나는 음악을 좋아합니다.

Subject Object Verb.

I Music Like.







Subject Particles: 은/는

The subject particles indicate the subject of the sentence.

For example, 나는 밥을 먹습니다. "I am eating rice."

나 is the subject because 는 is placed after it. Whenever 은/는 are placed next to a word, it is an indication of the sentence's subject.

은 and 는 are the same subject particles used in different forms. If the word preceding the particle ends with a vowel, the subject particle will be 는. If the word preceding the particle ends with a consonant, the subject particle will be 은.


Examples:

1.)

저는 밥을 먹습니다. "I am eating rice."

In this sentence the subject particle 는 was used to indicate that 나 was the subject of the sentence. The particle form 는 was used because the sentence ended with a vowel (ㅏ).

2.)

당신은 밥을 먹습니까? "Are you eating rice?"

In this sentence the subject particle 은 was used to indicated that 당신 was the subject of the sentence. The particle form 은 was used because the sentence ended with a consonant (ㄴ).

3.)

당신은 저를 시랑합나까? "Do you love me?"

In this sentence the subject is you, which is indicated by attaching 은 onto the end of 당신.




Object Particles: 을/를

The object particles indicate the object of the sentence.

The particles 을 and 를 are the same object particles used in different forms. Use 을 if the preceding word ends with a consonant. Use 를 if the preceding word ends with a vowel. 


Examples:

1.)

당신은 저를 시랑합나까? "Do you love me?"

The object of this sentence is 저(I, me). This is indicated by attaching 를 onto 저. The particle 를 is used because the preceding word ends with a vowel.

2.)

저는 오후에 사촌을 만나습니다. "I am meeting my cousin in the afternoon."

The object of the sentence is 사촌(cousin). This is indicated by attaching 을 to the object. The particle 을 is used because the preceding word ends with a consonant.




Location/Time Particle: 에

The location/time particle 에 is used to indicate time or place.


Examples:

1.)

방에 책상을 있습니다. "There is a desk in the room"

In this sentence a location is indicated by attaching 에 onto 방(room). You can also see that the subject of the sentence is 책상(desk) by noticing that 을 is attached to it.

2.)

집에 개를 있습니다. "There is a dog in the house."

In this sentence a location is indicated by attached 에 onto 집(house).


:mushroom2:.)

저는 오후에 사촌을 만나습니다. "I am meeting my cousin in the afternoon."

*The subject in this sentence is 저(I). The subject is identified by noticing the grammar particle 는.

*The object of this sentence is 사촌(cousin). The object is Identified by the grammar particle 을.

*Time is indicated in this sentence by using the word 오후(afternoon) and attaching 에, which is the grammar particle for time and place.



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Here is a small letter I wrote my penpal. I am sure it is riddled with errors, but this was my honest work. I wrote these words with only the help of an English/Korean dictionary and some Korea grammar video lectures. :cheers:


당신은 제주도에 재미를 걸립니까? 대양을 봅니까? 대양을 좋압니다. 제주도에 사진을 찍습니까?

제주도에 온난한을 있습니까? Pennsylvania에 곧 눈이 옵나다. 저는 오캐입니다.



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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
    #20838310 - 11/14/14 08:10 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

To speak any languaje you need words, right? But which words do you learn first? Well, the most commonly used ones. You can find them as "frequency lists" for any languaje you decide to take on: French, German, English, or Korean.

Here are the first 200 most used words in the Korean languaje:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Frequency_lists/Korean_200

If that's not enough for you here are the 6000 most commonly used words:
http://www.topikguide.com/2012/08/korean-frequency-list-top-6000-words.html

The thing about the second link is that they don't have the pronounciation, but if you want that here's a memrise course with audio of the first 1000 most used words (the only downside that I know of is that you have to log in):
http://www.memrise.com/course/1614/1000-most-common-korean-words/


Keep in mind I don't know any Korean except what I have learnt in this thread, so if I'm making a fool of myself please feel free to point that out. Thanks for the course XUL, your knowledge and everyone elses who is contributing is greatly appreciated.

Happy studies everyone!


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    #20839880 - 11/15/14 08:27 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Ninja cat, thank you for your links. Feel free to contribute to the thread at any time. If you can find the language software, you should try to type some Korean here.

Shroomin Copete wanted to discuss the word 'and', so I made a small lesson on it.



Using the Word 'and'


The word and can be used in two different ways. You use 와 or 과 based on whether the preceding word ends with a consonant or a vowel. If the preceding word ends with a consonant then you will use the form of 과. If the preceding noun ends in a vowel, then you will use the form of 와.


example 1. 나는 밥 케이크를 좋아한다 = I like rice and cake.

In example one the 과 form of 'and' was used because the preceding noun ends with a consonant. 




example 2. 나는 타코 케이크를 좋아한다 = I like tacos and cake.

In example one the 와 form of 'and' was used because the preceding noun ends with a vowel.


Listen to the translation of example 2.

https://translate.google.com/#ko/en/%EB%82%98%EB%8A%94%20%ED%83%80%EC%BD%94%EC%99%80%20%EC%BC%80%EC%9D%B4%ED%81%AC%EB%A5%BC%20%EC%A2%8B%EC%95%84%ED%95%9C%EB%8B%A4


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
    #20841191 - 11/15/14 01:32 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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example 1. 나는 밥과 케이크를 좋아한다 = I like rice and tacos.





케이크......isn't this cake?  does this sentence actually say "like rice and cake"

so the 'and' word is connected to the first noun?  if you mention like 5 things in a row like tacos, cake, rice, beef, and beer, would it be like in English where you only put the 'and' word between the last two nouns?


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    #20841307 - 11/15/14 01:51 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

and check out this link I just found, it has a ton of good stuff http://www.korean.arts.ubc.ca/b_tb/tb_07/L7.htm


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    #20842275 - 11/15/14 06:09 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

example 1. 나는 밥과 케이크를 좋아한다 = I like rice and tacos.





케이크......isn't this cake?  does this sentence actually say "like rice and cake"

so the 'and' word is connected to the first noun?  if you mention like 5 things in a row like tacos, cake, rice, beef, and beer, would it be like in English where you only put the 'and' word between the last two nouns?




Yes, you were correct about the cake thing. Thanks. I fixed it.

To be honest I am not sure about your question. It's a good one. I will check in my Korean dictionary and on Google translator. I will also ask one of my Korean friends.

I will post my findings to the lesson. Let me know if you find anything out.

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    #20849331 - 11/17/14 07:17 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I'm fairly certain that you could put the "and" (과, 와, though those are mostly used as 'with' or you can use 하고 or 이랑) between the first and second noun, then finish your list together. (ie. I like tomatoes and grapes, apples, peaches, tangerines).  You could also put "또" in there. I'm in bed now, but I'll try to post some example sentences for you in the morning (Korean time).


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    #20849491 - 11/17/14 08:11 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm fairly certain that you could put the "and" (과, 와, though those are mostly used as 'with' or you can use 하고 or 이랑) between the first and second noun, then finish your list together. (ie. I like tomatoes and grapes, apples, peaches, tangerines).  You could also put "또" in there. I'm in bed now, but I'll try to post some example sentences for you in the morning (Korean time).




Sweet, that would be awesome.

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    #20850864 - 11/17/14 02:23 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Anyone wanna go and get korean barbeque? Bbq


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:laugh:


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I'm assuming this Learn Korean Thread is officially dead


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idk.  its XUL's thread and he hasn't been on for 17 days.  im sure it will kick back up once he gets back


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Maybe he fell in love with a korean girl


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idk.  its XUL's thread and he hasn't been on for 17 days.  im sure it will kick back up once he gets back



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Maybe he fell in love with a korean girl





친구야,

나는 시험을합니다. 많은 책을 공부합니다.

나는 도서관에 시간을 통과합니다.이 시험 주 입니다.

씨발 시험. 나는 휴일을 원한다!

나는 추수 감사절에 소주를 마시습니다. 씨발 아침 통증.

또한, ATV를 운전합니다. 재미있습니다.

어떻게 지내? 당신을 대해 말해합니다.

:mushroom2:


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    #20937400 - 12/06/14 11:39 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Dam xul, what type of tests are you taking? What Really you studying? And did you really drink soju lol.


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    #20938215 - 12/06/14 03:08 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Dam xul, what type of tests are you taking? What Really you studying? And did you really drink soju lol.




나는 심리학을 공부합니다. 신경 세포와 통계를 공부 어려운입니다. 하지만, 나는 도전을 좋아합니다.

아니, 소주는 여기에 없습니다. 나는 위스키를 마시습니다.

당신은 대해 무엇? 당신을 대해 말해합니다.


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    #20940539 - 12/07/14 12:55 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

나는 식물을 성장을 시작 할 수있다  :ganja:

나는 법적 마리화나 사업에를 작업 할 수 있습니다


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    #20940582 - 12/07/14 01:28 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

너는 K -POP 을 좋아?

그것은 나를 배우는 데 도움이.


나는 After School 좋아




나는 또한 SNL 좋아




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    #20941252 - 12/07/14 09:00 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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나는 식물을 성장을 시작 할 수있다  :ganja:

나는 법적 마리화나 사업에를 작업 할 수 있습니다





당신은 얼마나 많은 식물을 성장합니까?

California에 살습니까?

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너는 K -POP 을 좋아?

그것은 나를 배우는 데 도움이.


나는 After School 좋아






ㅎㅎㅎㅎ...

네, K-POP을 좋아합니다.

그것은 당시 음악을 이상한 입니다.

ㅎㅎㅎ

나의 고등학교 친구구 K-POP을 듣기합니다.

나는 고등학교에 S#arp(1998-2002)을 듣기합니다.

:shrug:

K-pop 재미. 그러나, OST을 더 좋아합니다.

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그것은 나를 배우는 데 도움이.




네,

비디오는 유효한 입니다.

문화와 청취는 중요 입니다.





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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
    #20945560 - 12/08/14 12:35 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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당신은 얼마나 많은 식물을 성장합니까?

California에 살습니까?





아니, 내가 Washington에 살고.  나는 아직도 성장 해달라고 ,하지만 난 미래에 법적 사업 운영.


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ㅎㅎㅎㅎ...

네, K-POP을 좋아합니다.

그것은 당시 음악을 이상한 입니다.

ㅎㅎㅎ

나의 고등학교 친구구 K-POP을 듣기합니다.

나는 고등학교에 S#arp(1998-2002)을 듣기합니다.

:shrug:

K-pop 재미. 그러나, OST을 더 좋아합니다.





lol.  OST 는 무엇인가


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    #20950598 - 12/09/14 01:29 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

:happyweed: 오늘은 대마초 정원 의 여행을했다!  :happyweed:    나는 고용 할 수도 있다

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    #20950837 - 12/09/14 04:08 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Haha, pot head


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    #20951010 - 12/09/14 06:04 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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:happyweed: 오늘은 대마초 정원 의 여행을했다!  :happyweed:    나는 고용 할 수도 있다

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Haha, pot head





Hey, hey, hey.

Speaking Korean and smoking pot.

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    #20952978 - 12/09/14 02:33 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

we should have a lesson about alterations in the pronunciation of certain letters like how "ㅂ" sounds like "ㅁ" when on the bottom of a word like 합니다


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    #20953294 - 12/09/14 03:37 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Hop nee da.


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    #20954397 - 12/09/14 06:59 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

fuck... I always hear "hamnida"


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    #20955844 - 12/10/14 02:28 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Nope, that would be wrong but still some people use that prnounciation, especially if you're non korean.

But correct pronunciation is hop,the ㅂ makes almost a b sound ,be uht.


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    #20978985 - 12/15/14 10:49 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Nope, that would be wrong but still some people use that prnounciation, especially if you're non korean.

But correct pronunciation is hop,the ㅂ makes almost a b sound ,be uht.




I tend to agree. Honestly, I am teaching it from my own perspective, which is based from living with Korean roommates and visiting Korea. Native speakers will indeed have a more perfect pronunciation. Yet, from my experience I have been able to communicate the Korean language.


Would either one of you guys like to propose a Korean song? We could then translate it and break down the sentence structure and words. Can we not do 16 year old K-pop though? haha.


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    #20979842 - 12/15/14 02:22 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

16 year old k pop as in kpop for sixteen year Olds ? Or you mean music from 16 years ago?


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    #20980454 - 12/15/14 04:09 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

As in k-pop for 16 year olds, haha. It's your call though. Choose a song and we will analyze it.


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    #20992593 - 12/18/14 01:25 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

ill nominate these two.  idk if they meet your non 16yr old requirement, but I can dig it and im not 16 :shrug:.  btw, 내가 정말 좋아 김예림와 윤하.  윤하는 내가 제일 좋아하는 가수





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    #20992738 - 12/18/14 04:10 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Check out drunken tiger.


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    #20992939 - 12/18/14 07:00 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Interpreting a Korean Pop Song


친구야, 삼 노래를 권했습니다. 괜찮아입니다?

여기 Shroomin Capote의 선택입니다.우리 해야 비판적으로 생각합니다. 단어를 정의합니다 주세요.

I will post our translations next to the Hangul Lyrics. After we have translated the lyrics I will look up a more proper translation so that we can compare our work.

Philtre(필터) - Last Scene(라스트 씬)


HANGUL LYRICS

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모든 말들이 다 거짓말 같고
all the words are lies.
이젠 아무것도 믿을 수 없네
I cannot trust anything anymore.

(male voice)

거짓말들, 떨리는 눈빛
Lies, trembling eyes
머뭇거리며 둘러댔던 끔찍한 변명들, 거지같은
Hesitate making up an awful excuse, begging
넌 퍽이나 머리 아픈척하며
your intense head pain is false
얘기를 돌리곤 했었지
It wasn't my turn to talk
난 느꼈어, 남 같은 거리감을

언젠가 버림받을 것 같아서
나 더 세게 널 붙잡았어
끝이란 낭떠러지 앞에 서서
나는 두려워서 눈 꼭 감았어
나 알았어, 숨기는 거
다른 사람이 네 목에 남긴 흔적
다 알면서도 나는 모르는 척
바보처럼 난 다 참았어

넌 알았어? 네 옆에서 나 속으로 끙끙 앓았어
자꾸 들리는 너에 대한 더러운 얘기들
듣기 싫어 두 귀를 닫았어
약간의 기대, 희미한 믿음,
지금의 날 버티게 하는 힘은
그거면 됐는데, 충분했는데
이제 끝내자는 네 이야기는
날 밑바닥까지 무너트려
하나 남은 촛불마저 꺼뜨려
남은 건 칠흑 같은 어둠뿐
지독한 고독이 추워 움츠러들어
내 입은 말하는 법을 잊은 듯
계속 한숨만 뱉지
난 너만을 그리는 붓
너 없는 내 삶은 공허한 백지

모든 말들이 다 거짓말 같고
이젠 아무것도 믿을 수 없네
이게 끝이라는 게 견딜 수 없고
부질없는 미움이 가슴 깊이 남아

'끝' 한 음절의 단어
볼 장 다 봤다는 뜻, 시작의 반어
그림을 그리듯 설명하자면
한 장만 남기고 다 뜯긴 12월의 달력
아직 내 시간은 추운 겨울에서 멈췄고
넌 시작했지 우리가 했던걸
그 사람과의 또 다른 사계절
넌 새로운 봄, 난 계속 너만을 바라봄,
네 마음은 날아가는 깃털, 난 물에 젖은 솜

모든 말들이 다 거짓말 같고
이젠 아무것도 믿을 수 없네
이게 끝이라는 게 견딜 수 없고
부질없는 미움이 가슴 깊이 남아





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    #20992991 - 12/18/14 07:28 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Lyrics:
모든 말들이 다 거짓말 같고





모든 말들이 다 거짓말 같고

Translation: all the words are lies.


거짓말 - lie

모든 - all

같고 - the same

말들 - words


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    #20997606 - 12/19/14 04:17 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Is there a korea town near you guys?


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    #20997954 - 12/19/14 07:46 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Is there a korea town near you guys?




아니. 내 도시에 한글  없습니다.

하지만, 나는 한국 언어 말을 원합니다.

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    #20998648 - 12/19/14 12:01 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Lyrics:
이젠 아무것도 믿을 수 없네





이젠 아무것도 믿을 수 없네

Translation: I cannot trust anything anymore.


이젠 - anymore / now

아무것도 - anything

믿을 - believe / trust.

수 없네 - I cannot

I am not sure how 수 없네 means "I cannot," but that is what the dictionary is telling me. It must be an expression - or something I don't understand.

Here is another example of the expression:

당신은 없이 살 수 없네. = I cannot live without you.

없이 - without

살 - years of age


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    #20998789 - 12/19/14 12:42 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Is there a korea town near you guys?




아니. 내 도시에 한글  없습니다.

하지만, 나는 한국 언어 말을 원합니다.

Why do you ask?





당신은 한국에 살고입니다.

영어 선생 입니까?

한국에 어디에 살고있습니까?

저는 영어선생  용 적용 입니다.

하지만, 언제, 저는 불확실성 입니다.

저는 작은 도시를 방문 원합니다.

TALK은 정부 계획 입니다.

그들은 영어선생을 지불합니다.


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:manofapproval:

I was gonna go to korea to teach English in a couple of years, but idk if I actually will


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I was gonna go to korea to teach English in a couple of years, but idk if I actually will




참으로, 어려운 결정입니다.

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    #20999297 - 12/19/14 03:12 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not too fond of going to korea. Koren people are quite snobby.
You totally took my question wrong about korea town. I mean if there is a little community of Koreans in your area I the states, for instance, nyc has a korea town in 32nd street and so does new jersey in palisades park.

Teaching English in korea is a bottom of the barrel type of job.


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    #20999601 - 12/19/14 04:33 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm not too fond of going to korea. Koren people are quite snobby.
You totally took my question wrong about korea town. I mean if there is a little community of Koreans in your area I the states, for instance, nyc has a korea town in 32nd street and so does new jersey in palisades park.

Teaching English in korea is a bottom of the barrel type of job.




yeah I have heard a lot of negatives about teaching English in asia, but being paid while traveling in asia would be pretty cool.  I guess it will come down to what employment opportunities I will have when I graduate


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I'm not too fond of going to korea. Koren people are quite snobby.






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    #21000033 - 12/19/14 06:17 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

아니,그냥 한국 사람들시러


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: FilthyShroomz] * 1
    #21000163 - 12/19/14 06:51 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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아니,그냥 한국 사람들시러





나는 없어 이해하습니다.


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL] * 1
    #21002035 - 12/20/14 06:08 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

What you wrote doesn't make sense . You said I don't have but I understand


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: FilthyShroomz] * 1
    #21002319 - 12/20/14 09:07 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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What you wrote doesn't make sense . You said I don't have but I understand




What I am trying to say is, "I do not understand." This is how I looked at the sentence, but I am no expert.

나는 없어 이해하습니다.

나는 없어 = I do not have

이해하다 = to understand (verb)

나는 없어 이해하습니다 = I do not have an understanding. I don't understand.

If I am not accurate, then forgive me. I am still learning. Do you know how to fix my sentence?


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I'm not too fond of going to korea. Koren people are quite snobby.





I wonder what kind of experience could elicit such a response. Why do you feel this way?


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Teaching English in korea is a bottom of the barrel type of job.




I think that depends on what one is looking for.

If one is looking for money, then perhaps this job is not appropriate.

If one is looking for a culture exchange, a language exchange, and rudimentary teaching experience, then this job may be beneficial. I really believe in this program and what it is trying to do.

From what I understand, South Korean education systems are extremely competitive. The more wealthy Koreans send their children to hagwons, which are private schools that usually function after the regular school day. The purpose of a hagwon is to sharpen school skills (including English). Because Koreans living in rural areas are not as wealthy, they cannot send their children to hagwons so to sharpen their skills and better their odds of finding a decent wage in a competitive market. To aid the Korean families who cannot afford hagwons, the Korean government created the TALK program which pairs rural children with native English speakers so that they may compete with their wealthier counterparts.


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL] * 1
    #21002632 - 12/20/14 10:55 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Lyrics:
거짓말들, 떨리는 눈빛




거짓말들, 떨리는 눈빛

Translation: Lies, trembling eyes.

거짓말들 - lies

떨리 - trembling

(떨림) - tremor

눈삧 - eyes


In this phrase, the adjective 떨리(는) describes the noun 눈빛.


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    #21007020 - 12/21/14 10:32 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Wow I never heard of the talk program, that's awesome . And I didn't mean to bash you. I will help you correct that sentence


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: FilthyShroomz] * 1
    #21007045 - 12/21/14 10:40 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

나는 이해 할수없어,

There's no way I can understand

Korean language is almost backwards compared to the English language.

이해한다*


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: FilthyShroomz] * 1
    #21037234 - 12/28/14 09:25 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Jwondering,
What is korean term of mahayanna?
In the korean script...
Waiting a reply
/"mahayanna"

(Seems anti-satan wind/unwise lifting)


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: lucifane] * 1
    #21037509 - 12/28/14 10:41 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Jwondering,
What is korean term of mahayanna?
In the korean script...
Waiting a reply
/"mahayanna"

(Seems anti-satan wind/unwise lifting)




idk.  we could tell you if you write it in hangul (in Korean with Korean letters).

I typed 마하 야나 into google and found this if it helps http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ko&u=http://ko.mythology.wikia.com/wiki/%25EB%25A7%2588%25ED%2595%2598%25EC%2595%25BC%25EB%2582%2598&prev=search


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: Shroomin Capote] * 1
    #21038692 - 12/29/14 09:38 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I agree with Capote. You gave us, what is called, a romanization of a Korean word. It is indeed hard translate the romanized word "mahayanna" into Hangul due to the possibility of many different Hangul spellings.

Copote spelled it like so: 마하 야나

It could also be spelled: 맣아얀나.

I typed the romanization "mahayanna" into Google and found similar results that pertain somehow to a branch of Buddhism.


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL] * 1
    #21043048 - 12/30/14 09:00 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Lyrics:
머뭇거리며 둘러댔던 끔찍한 변명들, 거지같은




머뭇거리며 둘러댔던 끔찍한 변명들, 거지같은


Translation: Hesitate making up an awful excuse, begging.


머뭇거리며 - hesitate, waiver, yield, hold back

둘러댔던 - make up, concoct,

끔찍한 - terrible, awful, gruesome

변명들 - justification, excuse

거지같은 - unsatisfactory, good for nothing, as pertaining to a beggarly fashion


I am not sure if my translation is 100% correct. Let me know if anyone can understand what this sentence means. This is my best attempt.

This sentence was hard to translate. I usually investigate every word with Google Translate, but it has been giving me a lot of trouble lately. It has a hard time translating some words.

Instead I used Naver's dictionary:
http://endic.naver.com/search.nhn?sLn=en&searchOption=all&query=%EB%A8%B8%EB%AD%87%EA%B1%B0%EB%A6%AC%EB%A9%B0


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    #21083290 - 01/07/15 05:02 PM (9 years, 22 days ago)

idk if or when ill be able to do any Korean history stuff since I just started winter qtr, but this yt series is really good.  정말 좋은




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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: Shroomin Capote] * 1
    #21083859 - 01/07/15 06:55 PM (9 years, 22 days ago)

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idk if or when ill be able to do any Korean history stuff since I just started winter qtr, but this yt series is really good.  정말 좋은







That is a great video. Thanks.

We need a lesson on negation. For example:

저는 재능 음악을 없습니다. I have no musical talent.

저는 음악을 원하지 않는다. I do not want music.



I'll work on it. I have been distracted lately.

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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL] * 1
    #21100711 - 01/11/15 09:37 AM (9 years, 19 days ago)

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Lyrics:
넌 퍽이나 머리 아픈척하며






Translation: your intense head pain is false



넌 - subject. you're.


퍽이나 - hard, puck, intensity, intense. I had trouble with this word. I wasn't sure what meaning the musician was trying to convey with this word, and I am still not entirely sure what it means. My translation is just my best guess.
http://endic.naver.com/search.nhn?sLn=en&searchOption=mean&query=%ED%8D%BD%EC%9D%B4%EB%82%98


머리 - smarts, cognition, head.
http://endic.naver.com/search.nhn?sLn=en&searchOption=mean&query=%EB%A8%B8%EB%A6%AC


*아픈 - sore

*척하며 - under false colors, pretending.

Thus, 아픈척하며 - verb. malingering, pretending to be sick, shirking,


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL] * 1
    #21132573 - 01/17/15 07:31 AM (9 years, 13 days ago)

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Lyrics:
얘기를 돌리곤 했었지




Translation: It wasn't my turn to talk

얘기를 - story

돌리곤 - turn, spin, turn away, deal

I wasn't sure what 곤 was supposed to indicate. I couldn't find that out.

http://endic.naver.com/search.nhn?sLn=en&searchOption=all&query=%EB%8F%8C%EB%A6%AC%EA%B3%A4

했었지 - negation of the verb 'to have'


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    #21273672 - 02/14/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

어디서?  뭐하니?


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: Shroomin Capote] * 1
    #21610663 - 04/28/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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어디서?  뭐하니?




I have been in school. I will return. But I will try to be more precise.

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    #21621408 - 05/01/15 10:09 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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    #21684024 - 05/15/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for posting this, I'v always wanted to get more fluent learning Korean!

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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: ShroomyBudz] * 1
    #23942605 - 12/20/16 07:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

This periodic table pretty much sums up the reading and writing aspect of the Korean language. I used a similar style of learning when I began practicing. I placed phonetic sounds for each character in the Korean alphabet. This is essentially what they are showing you. Remember to read the phonetic spelling for each character.

Interestingly, number 17 on the periodic table begins a word with a hard 'S', but, if the character is placed at the end of the word, the sound will be 'T'.

I feel that numbers 20 - 30 are not essential to look at when you are initially learning the Korean alphabet. I don't often run into characters 20-30 when I am reading.

Enjoy.

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    #24624281 - 09/12/17 06:47 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Great stuff.  I'm actually Korean, I'm game to help people out as well :smile:


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    #24624290 - 09/12/17 06:49 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Great stuff.  I'm actually Korean, I'm game to help people out as well :smile:




Cool, thanks mate.

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