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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
    #20792383 - 11/04/14 01:21 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

마리와나 is just an english pronounciation of the word marijuana in korean. The right word for marijuana in the korean language is 대마초


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: FilthyShroomz]
    #20793606 - 11/04/14 06:20 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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마리와나 is just an english pronounciation of the word marijuana in korean. The right word for marijuana in the korean language is 대마초




Thanks!

Do you want to add some other words you like? I am compiling a list so that we can study vocabulary together. Interested?


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: Shroomin Capote]
    #20805986 - 11/07/14 02:07 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Shroomincapote, 어떻개지내?

너는 죽은?

요즈음, 나는 도서관에 살고있다. 나는 심리학와 대마초를 공부한다. ㅎㅎㅎㅎ

어휴, 내 임대료가 높다. 나는 가난한 입나다!

괜찮아.


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내가 영화를 보았다. Night Crawler입니다. 나는 Night Crawler를 좋아. 이 8/10입니다.


What's up with you?


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
    #20806905 - 11/07/14 06:17 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

man, I am not really up to that level yet. LOL I had to paste that into google translate


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: Shroomin Capote]
    #20807238 - 11/07/14 07:33 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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man, I am not really up to that level yet. LOL I had to paste that into google translate





That is good practice though. I started using google translate a lot, and I still do, but not as much. After a while I start to get the hang of it. The thing is, you have to put time in to constructing sentences. You also have to think critically and remember common themes. It's a fun language to discover. Even 45 minutes a week makes a difference.

How did you make it to the rudimentary level, but not any further than that?


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
    #20808351 - 11/08/14 12:54 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I haven't really formally studied it or put too much time into it.  when I get my degree im thinking about going to korea to teach English for a year or so.  ill definitely get more into it before  then though


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: Shroomin Capote]
    #20808731 - 11/08/14 04:57 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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I haven't really formally studied it or put too much time into it.  when I get my degree im thinking about going to korea to teach English for a year or so.  ill definitely get more into it before  then though




It's all good.

Now, I suppose I am left to learn alone in this thread.

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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
    #20808806 - 11/08/14 05:49 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Anyone try 김치? ( Kim chee)


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: FilthyShroomz]
    #20808892 - 11/08/14 06:50 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Anyone try 김치? ( Kim chee)




I tried it when I was younger. I didn't appreciate it much because I did not like spicy foods, but now I think my opinion may differ. I have been eating a lot of spicy foods lately.

I wouldn't mind trying it again.

How about you?


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
    #20809478 - 11/08/14 10:46 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I love it.


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
    #20809689 - 11/08/14 11:43 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

ill still try to learn shit here, but im just gonna be kinda slow and wrong a lot


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    #20809955 - 11/08/14 01:04 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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ill still try to learn shit here, but im just gonna be kinda slow and wrong a lot





That is okay. I am wrong a lot too. But we can help each other. :stoned:

Here, I found this.

Today I learned so much Korean I can't even tell you. I finally understand how to use particles. They are MASSIVE clues to how sentences work.

Here guys, check this out.

http://v1.seemile.com/renewal/package_list.jsp?pkg_no=21


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
    #20812775 - 11/09/14 05:38 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I cant believe I stumbled upon this thread.

I live in Korea now. I'm conversational, not yet fluent, but am willing to help out if anyone has any questions.


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
    #20812900 - 11/09/14 07:13 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Grammar Particles



먹습니다.

The particles in this sentence, "I am eating rice," are highlighted





REVIEW:

A basic Korean sentence is placed in the order of 'subject object verb'. Note that the order of the words differs from English. New sentence compositions can be confusing, but when one learns about grammatical particles, it becomes less confusing. Grammatical particles let us know which word in the sentence is the subject or object. In this sentence 는 is the subject particle and 을 is the object particle.

나는 음악을 좋아합니다.

Subject Object Verb.

I Music Like.







Subject Particles: 은/는

The subject particles indicate the subject of the sentence.

For example, 나는 밥을 먹습니다. "I am eating rice."

나 is the subject because 는 is placed after it. Whenever 은/는 are placed next to a word, it is an indication of the sentence's subject.

은 and 는 are the same subject particles used in different forms. If the word preceding the particle ends with a vowel, the subject particle will be 는. If the word preceding the particle ends with a consonant, the subject particle will be 은.


Examples:

1.)

저는 밥을 먹습니다. "I am eating rice."

In this sentence the subject particle 는 was used to indicate that 나 was the subject of the sentence. The particle form 는 was used because the sentence ended with a vowel (ㅏ).

2.)

당신은 밥을 먹습니까? "Are you eating rice?"

In this sentence the subject particle 은 was used to indicated that 당신 was the subject of the sentence. The particle form 은 was used because the sentence ended with a consonant (ㄴ).

3.)

당신은 저를 시랑합나까? "Do you love me?"

In this sentence the subject is you, which is indicated by attaching 은 onto the end of 당신.




Object Particles: 을/를

The object particles indicate the object of the sentence.

The particles 을 and 를 are the same object particles used in different forms. Use 을 if the preceding word ends with a consonant. Use 를 if the preceding word ends with a vowel. 


Examples:

1.)

당신은 저를 시랑합나까? "Do you love me?"

The object of this sentence is 저(I, me). This is indicated by attaching 를 onto 저. The particle 를 is used because the preceding word ends with a vowel.

2.)

저는 오후에 사촌을 만나습니다. "I am meeting my cousin in the afternoon."

The object of the sentence is 사촌(cousin). This is indicated by attaching 을 to the object. The particle 을 is used because the preceding word ends with a consonant.




Location/Time Particle: 에

The location/time particle 에 is used to indicate time or place.


Examples:

1.)

방에 책상을 있습니다. "There is a desk in the room"

In this sentence a location is indicated by attaching 에 onto 방(room). You can also see that the subject of the sentence is 책상(desk) by noticing that 을 is attached to it.

2.)

집에 개를 있습니다. "There is a dog in the house."

In this sentence a location is indicated by attached 에 onto 집(house).


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저는 오후에 사촌을 만나습니다. "I am meeting my cousin in the afternoon."

*The subject in this sentence is 저(I). The subject is identified by noticing the grammar particle 는.

*The object of this sentence is 사촌(cousin). The object is Identified by the grammar particle 을.

*Time is indicated in this sentence by using the word 오후(afternoon) and attaching 에, which is the grammar particle for time and place.



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Here is a small letter I wrote my penpal. I am sure it is riddled with errors, but this was my honest work. I wrote these words with only the help of an English/Korean dictionary and some Korea grammar video lectures. :cheers:


당신은 제주도에 재미를 걸립니까? 대양을 봅니까? 대양을 좋압니다. 제주도에 사진을 찍습니까?

제주도에 온난한을 있습니까? Pennsylvania에 곧 눈이 옵나다. 저는 오캐입니다.



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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
    #20838310 - 11/14/14 08:10 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

To speak any languaje you need words, right? But which words do you learn first? Well, the most commonly used ones. You can find them as "frequency lists" for any languaje you decide to take on: French, German, English, or Korean.

Here are the first 200 most used words in the Korean languaje:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Frequency_lists/Korean_200

If that's not enough for you here are the 6000 most commonly used words:
http://www.topikguide.com/2012/08/korean-frequency-list-top-6000-words.html

The thing about the second link is that they don't have the pronounciation, but if you want that here's a memrise course with audio of the first 1000 most used words (the only downside that I know of is that you have to log in):
http://www.memrise.com/course/1614/1000-most-common-korean-words/


Keep in mind I don't know any Korean except what I have learnt in this thread, so if I'm making a fool of myself please feel free to point that out. Thanks for the course XUL, your knowledge and everyone elses who is contributing is greatly appreciated.

Happy studies everyone!


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: ninja cat 09]
    #20839880 - 11/15/14 08:27 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Ninja cat, thank you for your links. Feel free to contribute to the thread at any time. If you can find the language software, you should try to type some Korean here.

Shroomin Copete wanted to discuss the word 'and', so I made a small lesson on it.



Using the Word 'and'


The word and can be used in two different ways. You use 와 or 과 based on whether the preceding word ends with a consonant or a vowel. If the preceding word ends with a consonant then you will use the form of 과. If the preceding noun ends in a vowel, then you will use the form of 와.


example 1. 나는 밥 케이크를 좋아한다 = I like rice and cake.

In example one the 과 form of 'and' was used because the preceding noun ends with a consonant. 




example 2. 나는 타코 케이크를 좋아한다 = I like tacos and cake.

In example one the 와 form of 'and' was used because the preceding noun ends with a vowel.


Listen to the translation of example 2.

https://translate.google.com/#ko/en/%EB%82%98%EB%8A%94%20%ED%83%80%EC%BD%94%EC%99%80%20%EC%BC%80%EC%9D%B4%ED%81%AC%EB%A5%BC%20%EC%A2%8B%EC%95%84%ED%95%9C%EB%8B%A4


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
    #20841191 - 11/15/14 01:32 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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example 1. 나는 밥과 케이크를 좋아한다 = I like rice and tacos.





케이크......isn't this cake?  does this sentence actually say "like rice and cake"

so the 'and' word is connected to the first noun?  if you mention like 5 things in a row like tacos, cake, rice, beef, and beer, would it be like in English where you only put the 'and' word between the last two nouns?


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    #20841307 - 11/15/14 01:51 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

and check out this link I just found, it has a ton of good stuff http://www.korean.arts.ubc.ca/b_tb/tb_07/L7.htm


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    #20842275 - 11/15/14 06:09 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

example 1. 나는 밥과 케이크를 좋아한다 = I like rice and tacos.





케이크......isn't this cake?  does this sentence actually say "like rice and cake"

so the 'and' word is connected to the first noun?  if you mention like 5 things in a row like tacos, cake, rice, beef, and beer, would it be like in English where you only put the 'and' word between the last two nouns?




Yes, you were correct about the cake thing. Thanks. I fixed it.

To be honest I am not sure about your question. It's a good one. I will check in my Korean dictionary and on Google translator. I will also ask one of my Korean friends.

I will post my findings to the lesson. Let me know if you find anything out.

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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
    #20849331 - 11/17/14 07:17 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I'm fairly certain that you could put the "and" (과, 와, though those are mostly used as 'with' or you can use 하고 or 이랑) between the first and second noun, then finish your list together. (ie. I like tomatoes and grapes, apples, peaches, tangerines).  You could also put "또" in there. I'm in bed now, but I'll try to post some example sentences for you in the morning (Korean time).


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