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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: Shroomin Capote] * 1
    #20955844 - 12/10/14 02:28 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Nope, that would be wrong but still some people use that prnounciation, especially if you're non korean.

But correct pronunciation is hop,the ㅂ makes almost a b sound ,be uht.


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: FilthyShroomz] * 1
    #20978985 - 12/15/14 10:49 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Nope, that would be wrong but still some people use that prnounciation, especially if you're non korean.

But correct pronunciation is hop,the ㅂ makes almost a b sound ,be uht.




I tend to agree. Honestly, I am teaching it from my own perspective, which is based from living with Korean roommates and visiting Korea. Native speakers will indeed have a more perfect pronunciation. Yet, from my experience I have been able to communicate the Korean language.


Would either one of you guys like to propose a Korean song? We could then translate it and break down the sentence structure and words. Can we not do 16 year old K-pop though? haha.


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL] * 1
    #20979842 - 12/15/14 02:22 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

16 year old k pop as in kpop for sixteen year Olds ? Or you mean music from 16 years ago?


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    #20980454 - 12/15/14 04:09 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

As in k-pop for 16 year olds, haha. It's your call though. Choose a song and we will analyze it.


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL] * 1
    #20992593 - 12/18/14 01:25 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

ill nominate these two.  idk if they meet your non 16yr old requirement, but I can dig it and im not 16 :shrug:.  btw, 내가 정말 좋아 김예림와 윤하.  윤하는 내가 제일 좋아하는 가수





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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: Shroomin Capote] * 1
    #20992738 - 12/18/14 04:10 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Check out drunken tiger.


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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: FilthyShroomz] * 1
    #20992939 - 12/18/14 07:00 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Interpreting a Korean Pop Song


친구야, 삼 노래를 권했습니다. 괜찮아입니다?

여기 Shroomin Capote의 선택입니다.우리 해야 비판적으로 생각합니다. 단어를 정의합니다 주세요.

I will post our translations next to the Hangul Lyrics. After we have translated the lyrics I will look up a more proper translation so that we can compare our work.

Philtre(필터) - Last Scene(라스트 씬)


HANGUL LYRICS

(female voice)

모든 말들이 다 거짓말 같고
all the words are lies.
이젠 아무것도 믿을 수 없네
I cannot trust anything anymore.

(male voice)

거짓말들, 떨리는 눈빛
Lies, trembling eyes
머뭇거리며 둘러댔던 끔찍한 변명들, 거지같은
Hesitate making up an awful excuse, begging
넌 퍽이나 머리 아픈척하며
your intense head pain is false
얘기를 돌리곤 했었지
It wasn't my turn to talk
난 느꼈어, 남 같은 거리감을

언젠가 버림받을 것 같아서
나 더 세게 널 붙잡았어
끝이란 낭떠러지 앞에 서서
나는 두려워서 눈 꼭 감았어
나 알았어, 숨기는 거
다른 사람이 네 목에 남긴 흔적
다 알면서도 나는 모르는 척
바보처럼 난 다 참았어

넌 알았어? 네 옆에서 나 속으로 끙끙 앓았어
자꾸 들리는 너에 대한 더러운 얘기들
듣기 싫어 두 귀를 닫았어
약간의 기대, 희미한 믿음,
지금의 날 버티게 하는 힘은
그거면 됐는데, 충분했는데
이제 끝내자는 네 이야기는
날 밑바닥까지 무너트려
하나 남은 촛불마저 꺼뜨려
남은 건 칠흑 같은 어둠뿐
지독한 고독이 추워 움츠러들어
내 입은 말하는 법을 잊은 듯
계속 한숨만 뱉지
난 너만을 그리는 붓
너 없는 내 삶은 공허한 백지

모든 말들이 다 거짓말 같고
이젠 아무것도 믿을 수 없네
이게 끝이라는 게 견딜 수 없고
부질없는 미움이 가슴 깊이 남아

'끝' 한 음절의 단어
볼 장 다 봤다는 뜻, 시작의 반어
그림을 그리듯 설명하자면
한 장만 남기고 다 뜯긴 12월의 달력
아직 내 시간은 추운 겨울에서 멈췄고
넌 시작했지 우리가 했던걸
그 사람과의 또 다른 사계절
넌 새로운 봄, 난 계속 너만을 바라봄,
네 마음은 날아가는 깃털, 난 물에 젖은 솜

모든 말들이 다 거짓말 같고
이젠 아무것도 믿을 수 없네
이게 끝이라는 게 견딜 수 없고
부질없는 미움이 가슴 깊이 남아





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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL] * 1
    #20992991 - 12/18/14 07:28 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Lyrics:
모든 말들이 다 거짓말 같고





모든 말들이 다 거짓말 같고

Translation: all the words are lies.


거짓말 - lie

모든 - all

같고 - the same

말들 - words


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    #20997606 - 12/19/14 04:17 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Is there a korea town near you guys?


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    #20997954 - 12/19/14 07:46 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Is there a korea town near you guys?




아니. 내 도시에 한글  없습니다.

하지만, 나는 한국 언어 말을 원합니다.

Why do you ask?


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    #20998648 - 12/19/14 12:01 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Lyrics:
이젠 아무것도 믿을 수 없네





이젠 아무것도 믿을 수 없네

Translation: I cannot trust anything anymore.


이젠 - anymore / now

아무것도 - anything

믿을 - believe / trust.

수 없네 - I cannot

I am not sure how 수 없네 means "I cannot," but that is what the dictionary is telling me. It must be an expression - or something I don't understand.

Here is another example of the expression:

당신은 없이 살 수 없네. = I cannot live without you.

없이 - without

살 - years of age


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    #20998789 - 12/19/14 12:42 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

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Is there a korea town near you guys?




아니. 내 도시에 한글  없습니다.

하지만, 나는 한국 언어 말을 원합니다.

Why do you ask?





당신은 한국에 살고입니다.

영어 선생 입니까?

한국에 어디에 살고있습니까?

저는 영어선생  용 적용 입니다.

하지만, 언제, 저는 불확실성 입니다.

저는 작은 도시를 방문 원합니다.

TALK은 정부 계획 입니다.

그들은 영어선생을 지불합니다.


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    #20998827 - 12/19/14 12:51 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

:manofapproval:

I was gonna go to korea to teach English in a couple of years, but idk if I actually will


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    #20998965 - 12/19/14 01:41 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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:manofapproval:

I was gonna go to korea to teach English in a couple of years, but idk if I actually will




참으로, 어려운 결정입니다.

준비하기는 중요입니다.


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    #20999297 - 12/19/14 03:12 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not too fond of going to korea. Koren people are quite snobby.
You totally took my question wrong about korea town. I mean if there is a little community of Koreans in your area I the states, for instance, nyc has a korea town in 32nd street and so does new jersey in palisades park.

Teaching English in korea is a bottom of the barrel type of job.


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    #20999601 - 12/19/14 04:33 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm not too fond of going to korea. Koren people are quite snobby.
You totally took my question wrong about korea town. I mean if there is a little community of Koreans in your area I the states, for instance, nyc has a korea town in 32nd street and so does new jersey in palisades park.

Teaching English in korea is a bottom of the barrel type of job.




yeah I have heard a lot of negatives about teaching English in asia, but being paid while traveling in asia would be pretty cool.  I guess it will come down to what employment opportunities I will have when I graduate


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    #20999837 - 12/19/14 05:33 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm not too fond of going to korea. Koren people are quite snobby.






당신은 한국에 나쁜 경험을 있었습니까?


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    #21000033 - 12/19/14 06:17 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

아니,그냥 한국 사람들시러


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    #21000163 - 12/19/14 06:51 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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아니,그냥 한국 사람들시러





나는 없어 이해하습니다.


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    #21002035 - 12/20/14 06:08 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

What you wrote doesn't make sense . You said I don't have but I understand


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