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#20660261 - 10/05/14 07:54 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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READING, WRITING, AND SUBSEQUENTLY SPEAKING KOREAN Picture: Man wearing a traditional yahngban(양반) mask. Reference to aristocracy. IntroductionIn high school this is how I was taught the Korean language by native South Koreans. Some Asian languages seem as though they may be difficult to learn, but I promise you that Korean is easy. If you are interested in learning how to read, write, and subsequently speak the Korean language, then continue on. *NOTE. It is important to write the Korean letters correctly. If you have trouble seeing the Korean letters, then zoom your screen in by pressing and holding control and then at the same time press the plus(+) button on the keyboard. If you want to zoom back out, press and hold control and then press the minus key. This guide is not yet complete. I will post more instructions as time goes on. Feel free to ask any questions. START HEREFIRST. Memorize (or semi memorize) the consonants and vowels and remember what general sound they make. Also memorize how to write the symbol. You will soon find out that the symbols are easy to learn and pronounce. There are very easy patterns to pick up on. Quote:
CONSONANTS(19). There are 19 Korean consonants. Count them. All the American letters represent the sound of the Korean consonant. If you see double American letters, it means that the Korean letter should be said harder and with more emphasis.
ㄱ g ㄲ gg
ㄷ d ㄸ dd
ㅈ j ㅉ jj
ㅂ b ㅃ bb
ㅎ h
ㄹ l
ㅇ ng, or no sound
ㄴ n
ㅁ m
ㅍ p
ㅊ ch
ㅌ t
ㅋ k
ㅅ s (Or a 'd' sound. The 'd' sound is only used in certain grammatical circumstances.) ㅆ ss (Or a 'dd' sound. The 'dd' sound is only used in certain grammatical circumstances.)
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VOWELS(14). There are 14 Korean vowels. Count them. All the American letters represent the sound of the Korean vowel. Note small patterns. A single line with two prongs sticking off indicates that the Korean letter starts with 'y'.
ㅗ oh ㅛ yo
ㅏ ah ㅑ yah
ㅓ uh ㅕ yuh
ㅜ oo ㅠ yoo
ㅐ eh ㅒ yeh
ㅔ eh (yes, this sounds the same as the one above) ㅖ yeh
ㅣ ee
ㅡ eu (eu, as in p'u't)
Reading the word 'book'.책 is the way book is spelled. Koreans stack their letters in order to make words. Read from left to right, and then down. If there is nothing to the right, then move straight down. 책 = book. We read from left to right, and then down. We start at the consonant, ㅊ(ch). Then move right to the vowel, ㅐ(eh). Finally, move down to the consonant, ㄱ(g). 책 = book = 'cheg' = one syllable. Check if you are correct with your pronunciation with Google Translate. Go to the link and press the speaker button under the word you want to hear. https://translate.google.com/#en/ko/bookNOTE: You now know how to read a Korean word. It should be noted that many words make up sentences, and just like in English, Korean sentences travel from left to right. writing the word 'book' and the word 'baseball'vowels cannot start a word or syllable by themselves. vowels always have to be preceded by a consonant.Grab a pen and a piece of paper. In order to write 책(book), start by carefully writing the consonant ㅊ(ch). next, move right and write your vowel ㅐ(eh). So far you should have 채(che). Lastly, move below and write ㄱ(g). The word 'book' should look like this on your paper 책. 책 = 'cheg' = book = one syllable. -------------------------------- --------------------------------
Next we write the word baseball. This exercise will help you understand the meaning of the Korean consonant 'ㅇ'.
야구 = yah'goo = baseball = two syllables
Remember, vowels always have to be preceded by a consonant. If you review the consonants you will see that none of them make the sound 'yah'. The sound 'yah'(ㅑ) is made with a vowel. Since vowels always have to be preceded by consonants, we start by using the consonant 'ㅇ', which in this case indicates no sound.
ㅇ + ㅑ = 야 = 'yah'.
The word 야구(baseball) is made up of two consonants (ㅇ,ㄱ) and two vowels (ㅑ,ㅜ). The word has two syllables.
Grab a pen and a piece of paper. First write the consonant ㅇ(no sound). Next, move right and write the vowel ㅑ(yah). So far we have 야 (yah). Move on to the second syllable, which will be written to the right of the first syllable. Start by writing the consonant ㄱ(g). Lastly, move bellow and write the vowel ㅜ(oo). You should have made 구(goo). The totality of the word should appear as such: 야구.
야(yah) + 구(goo) = 야구(yahgoo)
야 (first syllable) + 구(second syllable) = 야구 (two syllables all together.)
Thus, two syllables make the word 야구.
Listen to the recoding of this word to double check yourself: https://translate.google.com/#en/ko/baseball
SUMMARY
*In this instruction you learned:
*how Korean consonants and vowels sound. you also learned the shapes of Korean characters and how to start writing them.
*Koreans stack their letters in order to make words. Read from left to right, and then down. If there is nothing to the right, then move straight down.
*When writing, vowels always have to be preceded by a consonant.
*Sometimes the consonant 'ㅇ' can indicate no sound.
*Syllables make up words and are horizontally placed next to each other from left to right.
*Korean books read just like English books do - from left to right.
-------------------- Currently the Korean Language thread is analyzing a Korean Pop song. The song and lyrics can be found on the following page. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20660261/fpart/9/vc/1#20660261
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Re: Reading, writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
#20660290 - 10/05/14 08:14 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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How to read and write 양반(yahngban). This instruction will show you how the consonant 'ㅇ' can be used in two different ways. The Consonant 'ㅇ' and Its Two UsesFIRST USE OF 'ㅇ':Remember, vowels always have to be preceded by a consonant. If you review the consonants you will see that none of them make the sound 'yah'. The sound 'yah'(ㅑ) is made with a vowel. Since vowels always have to be preceded by consonants, we start by using the consonant 'ㅇ', which in this case indicates no sound. here are some examples of consonants followed by vowels. *ㅇ + ㅑ = 야 = 'yah'. *지 = jee *채 = che *우 = oo *여 = yuh. Listen: https://translate.google.com/#ko/en/%EC%97%ACIMPORTANTLY, when we start a word with any vowel sound, 'ㅇ' will always precede the vowel, such as in 야. SECOND USE OF 'ㅇ':If you review your consonants you will see that 'ㅇ' can also make the sound 'ng' (such as the ng, in ki'ng'). Whenever you use the consonant 'ㅇ' after a vowel, it will have the 'ng' sound.THUS: There are two ways to use the 'ㅇ' consonant. If used before a vowel, it remains silent. If used after a vowel, it possesses the 'ng' sound. READING 양반(yahngban)The word 양반(yahngban) has 5 consonants (ㅇ,ㅇ,ㅂ,ㄴ) and two vowels (ㅑ,ㅏ). The word has two syllables. 양반 = yahng'bahn = Korean folk mask. Two syllables. Read from left to right, and then down. If there is nothing to the right, then move straight down.We start reading with the first consonant of the first syllable, 'ㅇ'. Because 'ㅇ' is used before a vowel, it remains silent. Next, move right to the vowel ㅑ(yah). So far we have 야(yah). Lastly, move down and notice the 'ㅇ'. Since it comes after a vowel, it possesses an 'ng' sound. That is, 양(yahng). 양 (yahng) = first syllable of the word. For the second syllable we start at the top left with the consonant, 'ㅂ'(b). Next, we move on to the vowel, 'ㅏ'(ah). So far we have 바(bah). Lastly, move down and read the last consonant, 'ㄴ'(n). 반 bahn = second syllable of the word. 양 + 반 = 양반 = yahng'ban. Check and make sure you are pronouncing the word correctly. Go to Google translator and press the audio button under the word you want to hear. https://translate.google.com/#en/ko/%EC%96%91%EB%B0%98Writing yahngban.REVIEW The word 'yangban' starts with 'yah'. The 'yah' sound is made by using the Korean vowel 'ㅑ'. vowels always have to be preceded by a consonant. If you review the consonants you will see that none of them make the sound 'yah'. The sound 'yah'(ㅑ) is made with a vowel. Since vowels always have to be preceded by consonants, we start by using the consonant 'ㅇ', which in this case indicates no sound. Thus, when we start a word with any vowel sound, 'ㅇ' will always precede the vowel, such as in 야.ㅇ(silent, consonant) + ㅑ(yah, vowel) = yah Remember, whenever you use the consonant 'ㅇ' after a vowel, it will have the 'ng' sound. APPLICATION Grab a writing utensil and a piece of paper. For the first syllable, start by writing the consonant 'ㅇ'(silent). Next, move right and write the vowel 'ㅑ'(yah). So far you should have '야'. Lastly, move down and write the consonant 'ㅇ'(ng). Your paper should show '양'. For the second syllable, start by writing the consonant 'ㅂ'(b). Next, move right and write the vowel 'ㅏ'(ah). So far you should have '바'. Lastly, move down and write the consonant 'ㄴ'(n). your paper should show: '반'. 양 + 반 = 양반 = yahngban = Korean folk mask SUMMARYThis instruction showed you how the consonant 'ㅇ' can be used in two different ways. If used before a vowel, it is silent. If used after a vowel, it possesses the sound 'ng'. When we start a word with any vowel sound, 'ㅇ' will always precede the vowel, such as in 야(yah), 우(oo), 애(eh), or 오(oh). There are many combinations.
-------------------- Currently the Korean Language thread is analyzing a Korean Pop song. The song and lyrics can be found on the following page. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20660261/fpart/9/vc/1#20660261
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Re: Reading, writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
#20661474 - 10/05/14 01:20 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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PRACTICE READING AND WRITING음악 = music = eum'ahg. Two syllables. Noun. 음 = euhm. 악 = ahg Listen to how this word sounds. Press the audio button on the Google translator page. https://translate.google.com/#en/ko/music-------------------------------- --------------
학교 = school = hag'gyo. Two syllables. Noun.
학 = hag
교 = gyo
https://translate.google.com/#en/ko/school
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나는 = I am = nah'neun. Two syllables.
나 = nah
는 = neun
https://translate.google.com/#en/ko/school.
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SURPRISE WORD
좋
좋 = good = joh. One syllable.
This word is stacked with three letters. The reason this is stacked is because the vowel 'ㅗ' made up of a horizontal line. Remember, Read from left to right, and then down. If there is nothing to the right, then move straight down.
ㅈ = j ㅗ = oh ㅎ = h
좋 = joh
https://translate.google.com/#ko/en/%EC%A2%8B
Certain vowels are always written underneath the initial consonant. Those vowels include any vowel based from a horizontal line. The horizontal line vowels are: ㅠ,ㅜ,ㅗ,ㅛ, ㅡ.
Conversely, vertical lined vowels are placed to the right of the initial consonant. These vowels include ㅐㅒㅔㅖㅕ,ㅓ,ㅏ,ㅑ,ㅣ.
SUMMARY
In this instruction you learned that Korean letters can be stacked. Certain vowels are always written underneath the initial consonant. Those vowels include any vowel based from a horizontal line. The horizontal line vowels are: ㅠ,ㅜ,ㅗ,ㅛ, ㅡ.
Conversely, vertical lined vowels are placed to the right of the initial consonant. These vowels include ㅐㅒㅔㅖㅕ,ㅓ,ㅏ,ㅑ,ㅣ.
-------------------- Currently the Korean Language thread is analyzing a Korean Pop song. The song and lyrics can be found on the following page. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20660261/fpart/9/vc/1#20660261
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Re: Reading, writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
#20661530 - 10/05/14 01:33 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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RUDIMENTARY SENTENCE STRUCTURE나는 음악을 좋아. 나는(I) 음악을(music) 좋아(like, good, favorite). The sentence essentially says, "I like music," but Korean sentence structure is different from English. Notice that they ordered their words as such: I - music - like. Listen to what the sentence sounds like using Google translator. https://translate.google.com/#en/ko/I%20like%20music. RUDIMENTARY VOCABULARY*나 = I *음악 = music *좋 = good. SUMMARYIn this instruction you learned that English and Korean sentence structures are not built the same way.The Korean word 'music' appears in this poster. Can you find it?
-------------------- Currently the Korean Language thread is analyzing a Korean Pop song. The song and lyrics can be found on the following page. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20660261/fpart/9/vc/1#20660261
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Re: Reading, writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
#20664587 - 10/06/14 12:51 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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dude, I love you! thanks! this is sweet. im trying to learn Korean and I can read it pretty well, but I don't know too many words and stuff. ill read through this thread later, but thanks man!
btw, I have a lot of trouble distinguishing the difference between the single and double consonants like
ㄱ g ㄲ gg ㄷ d ㄸ dd ㅂ b ㅃ bb ㅈ j ㅉ jj is it just something ill get with experience?
also, I sometimes notice that Koreans pronounce "ㅅ" usually as an "s" sound, but sometimes a "sh" sound. why is that?
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Re: Reading, writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: Shroomin Capote]
#20664956 - 10/06/14 05:36 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here is an answer to your question. I answered you other question about the 'ㅅ' and 'sh' sound in the next post below. Keep practicing!
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btw, I have a lot of trouble distinguishing the difference between the single and double consonants like
ㄱ g ㄲ gg ㄷ d ㄸ dd ㅂ b ㅃ bb ㅈ j ㅉ jj
This is the general rule I was taught, which works for me:
In order to pronounce the double consonants, you simply use more accentuation. That is, the double consonant will be said harder, and with more force.
In conclusion, simply pronounce the double consonants more sharply, and with more force.
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Re: Reading, writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
#20682960 - 10/10/14 06:22 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Consonant 'ㅅ' and the 's' or 'sh' soundQuote:
Shroomin Capote said: also, I sometimes notice that Koreans pronounce "ㅅ" usually as an "s" sound, but sometimes a "sh" sound. why is that?
It turns out that certain vowels will indicate when the consonant 'ㅅ' is to be used with the 'Sh' sound.
Here is a list of those vowels. There are 7 of them:
ㅛ, ㅠ, ㅣ, ㅕ, ㅖ, ㅒ, andㅑ.
So, if we review together.
쇼 = shyoh
슈 = shyoo. https://translate.google.com/#ko/en/%EC%8A%88.
시 = shee
셔 = shyuh
샤 = shyah. https://translate.google.com/#ko/en/%EC%83%A4.
A quick tip for remembering this is that vowels made with two prongs will be pronounced with the 'sh' sound. NOTE: In addition 'ㅣ' has no prongs, but it still gets the 'sh' sound.
Reference Chart REVIEW 샤인 = shya'een. https://translate.google.com/#ko/en/%EC%83%A4%EC%9D%B8. 사고 = sah'go 시누 = shee'noo. 수 = soo. (there is only one prong on the vowel) https://translate.google.com/#ko/en/%EC%88%98. 마 = mah 세 = seh 슈 = Shyoo. 셔 = shyuh  섀 = 'Shyeh' 셰 = 'Shyeh' Periodic Table of the Korean Alphabet
This periodic table pretty much sums up the reading and writing aspect of the Korean language. I used a similar style of learning when I began practicing. I placed phonetic sounds for each character in the Korean alphabet. This is essentially what they are showing you. Remember to read the phonetic spelling for each character. Interestingly, number 17 on the periodic table begins a word with a hard 'S', but, if the character is placed at the end of the word, the sound will be 'T'. I feel that numbers 20 - 30 are not essential to look at when you are initially learning the Korean alphabet. I don't often run into characters 20-30 when I am reading. Enjoy.  
-------------------- Currently the Korean Language thread is analyzing a Korean Pop song. The song and lyrics can be found on the following page. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20660261/fpart/9/vc/1#20660261
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Re: Reading, writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
#20683968 - 10/10/14 12:54 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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sweet. thanks
Grammar Particles
나는 밥을 먹습니다.The particles in this sentence, "I am eating rice," are highlightedREVIEW:A basic Korean sentence is placed in the order of 'subject object verb'. Note that the order of the words differs from English. New sentence compositions can be confusing, but when one learns about grammatical particles, it becomes less confusing. Grammatical particles let us know which word in the sentence is the subject or object. In this sentence 는 is the subject particle and 을 is the object particle. 나는 음악을 좋아합니다. Subject Object Verb. I Music Like. Subject Particles: 은/는The subject particles indicate the subject of the sentence. For example, 나는 밥을 먹습니다. "I am eating rice." 나 is the subject because 는 is placed after it. Whenever 은/는 are placed next to a word, it is an indication of the sentence's subject. 은 and 는 are the same subject particles used in different forms. If the word preceding the particle ends with a vowel, the subject particle will be 는. If the word preceding the particle ends with a consonant, the subject particle will be 은. Examples:1.) 저는 밥을 먹습니다. "I am eating rice." In this sentence the subject particle 는 was used to indicate that 나 was the subject of the sentence. The particle form 는 was used because the sentence ended with a vowel (ㅏ). 2.) 당신은 밥을 먹습니까? "Are you eating rice?" In this sentence the subject particle 은 was used to indicated that 당신 was the subject of the sentence. The particle form 은 was used because the sentence ended with a consonant (ㄴ). 3.) 당신은 저를 시랑합나까? "Do you love me?" In this sentence the subject is you, which is indicated by attaching 은 onto the end of 당신. Object Particles: 을/를The object particles indicate the object of the sentence. The particles 을 and 를 are the same object particles used in different forms. Use 을 if the preceding word ends with a consonant. Use 를 if the preceding word ends with a vowel. Examples:1.) 당신은 저를 시랑합나까? "Do you love me?" The object of this sentence is 저(I, me). This is indicated by attaching 를 onto 저. The particle 를 is used because the preceding word ends with a vowel. 2.) 저는 오후에 사촌을 만나습니다. "I am meeting my cousin in the afternoon." The object of the sentence is 사촌(cousin). This is indicated by attaching 을 to the object. The particle 을 is used because the preceding word ends with a consonant. Location/Time Particle: 에The location/time particle 에 is used to indicate time or place. Examples:1.) 방에 책상을 있습니다. "There is a desk in the room" In this sentence a location is indicated by attaching 에 onto 방(room). You can also see that the subject of the sentence is 책상(desk) by noticing that 을 is attached to it. 2.) 집에 개를 있습니다. "There is a dog in the house." In this sentence a location is indicated by attached 에 onto 집(house).  .) 저는 오후에 사촌을 만나습니다. "I am meeting my cousin in the afternoon." *The subject in this sentence is 저(I). The subject is identified by noticing the grammar particle 는. *The object of this sentence is 사촌(cousin). The object is Identified by the grammar particle 을. *Time is indicated in this sentence by using the word 오후(afternoon) and attaching 에, which is the grammar particle for time and place.
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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
#20689706 - 10/11/14 05:14 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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correct me if im wrong, but in the word 책 doesn't the letter ㄱ make a very soft "t" sound when on the bottom of a syllable?
nd? Perhaps I can show you why it is not a 't' sound.
Interpreting a Korean Pop Song친구야, 삼 노래를 권했습니다. 괜찮아입니다? 여기 Shroomin Capote의 선택입니다.우리 해야 비판적으로 생각합니다. 단어를 정의합니다 주세요. I will post our translations next to the Hangul Lyrics. After we have translated the lyrics I will look up a more proper translation so that we can compare our work. Philtre(필터) - Last Scene(라스트 씬) HANGUL LYRICS
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모든 말들이 다 거짓말 같고 all the words are lies. 이젠 아무것도 믿을 수 없네 I cannot trust anything anymore.
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거짓말들, 떨리는 눈빛 Lies, trembling eyes. 머뭇거리며 둘러댔던 끔찍한 변명들, 거지같은 Hesitate making up an awful excuse, begging. 넌 퍽이나 머리 아픈척하며 your intense head pain is false 얘기를 돌리곤 했었지 It wasn't my turn to talk 난 느꼈어, 남 같은 거리감을
언젠가 버림받을 것 같아서 나 더 세게 널 붙잡았어 끝이란 낭떠러지 앞에 서서 나는 두려워서 눈 꼭 감았어 나 알았어, 숨기는 거 다른 사람이 네 목에 남긴 흔적 다 알면서도 나는 모르는 척 바보처럼 난 다 참았어
넌 알았어? 네 옆에서 나 속으로 끙끙 앓았어 자꾸 들리는 너에 대한 더러운 얘기들 듣기 싫어 두 귀를 닫았어 약간의 기대, 희미한 믿음, 지금의 날 버티게 하는 힘은 그거면 됐는데, 충분했는데 이제 끝내자는 네 이야기는 날 밑바닥까지 무너트려 하나 남은 촛불마저 꺼뜨려 남은 건 칠흑 같은 어둠뿐 지독한 고독이 추워 움츠러들어 내 입은 말하는 법을 잊은 듯 계속 한숨만 뱉지 난 너만을 그리는 붓 너 없는 내 삶은 공허한 백지
모든 말들이 다 거짓말 같고 이젠 아무것도 믿을 수 없네 이게 끝이라는 게 견딜 수 없고 부질없는 미움이 가슴 깊이 남아
'끝' 한 음절의 단어 볼 장 다 봤다는 뜻, 시작의 반어 그림을 그리듯 설명하자면 한 장만 남기고 다 뜯긴 12월의 달력 아직 내 시간은 추운 겨울에서 멈췄고 넌 시작했지 우리가 했던걸 그 사람과의 또 다른 사계절 넌 새로운 봄, 난 계속 너만을 바라봄, 네 마음은 날아가는 깃털, 난 물에 젖은 솜
모든 말들이 다 거짓말 같고 이젠 아무것도 믿을 수 없네 이게 끝이라는 게 견딜 수 없고 부질없는 미움이 가슴 깊이 남아
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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: Shroomin Capote]
#20689729 - 10/11/14 05:19 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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It is pronounced at a g sound. 책 = cheg.
Why did you believe that it was a 't' sound?
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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
#20689732 - 10/11/14 05:19 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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XuL, you're korean ?
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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: FilthyShroomz]
#20689744 - 10/11/14 05:22 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Using the Word 'and'The word and can be used in two different ways. You use 와 or 과 based on whether the preceding word ends with a consonant or a vowel. If the preceding word ends with a consonant then you will use the form of 과. If the preceding noun ends in a vowel, then you will use the form of 와. example 1. 나는 밥 과 케이크를 좋아한다 = I like rice and cake. In example one the 과 form of 'and' was used because the preceding noun ends with a consonant. example 2. 나는 타코 와 케이크를 좋아한다 = I like tacos and cake. In example one the 와 form of 'and' was used because the preceding noun ends with a vowel. Listen to the translation of example 2. https://translate.google.com/#ko/en/%EB%82%98%EB%8A%94%20%ED%83%80%EC%BD%94%EC%99%80%20%EC%BC%80%EC%9D%B4%ED%81%AC%EB%A5%BC%20%EC%A2%8B%EC%95%84%ED%95%9C%EB%8B%A4
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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
#20689749 - 10/11/14 05:23 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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XUL said: It is pronounced at a g sound. 책 = cheg.
Why did you believe that it was a 't' sound? P
ive heard that there are several letters that make a soft "t" sound when on the bottom (I wasn't 100% sure that ㄱ is one). I do know that ㅅ is one of them though
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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
#20689830 - 10/11/14 05:44 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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No I'm not korean, but I have lots of korean friends. I love korean food.
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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: FilthyShroomz]
#20691618 - 10/12/14 06:18 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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ive heard that there are several letters that make a soft "t" sound when on the bottom (I wasn't 100% sure that ㄱ is one). I do know that ㅅ is one of them though
Yes sir, you are correct.
If the consonants 'ㅅ' or 'ㅆ' are on the bottom of the syllable, then it will get that 't' sound. Although there is one stipulation I will explain later. Perhaps together we could create the lesson to explain it? I have been looking for someone to help me on this project. I will e-mail you.
How far along are you? I am no master either. We need some kind of test. hahaha.
How do you practice? What Korean texts are you reading?Quote:
FilthyShroomz said: No I'm not korean, but I have lots of korean friends. I love korean food.
You should jump in this thread and learn some Korean. What do you say?
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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
#20692474 - 10/12/14 12:06 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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I actually know korean pretty well. Learned a loy from my friends. You? What interests you about korean culture so much?
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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: FilthyShroomz]
#20692614 - 10/12/14 12:41 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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FilthyShroomz said: I actually know korean pretty well. Learned a loy from my friends. You? What interests you about korean culture so much?
That's awesome that other people on here are involved with the Korean language. Would you want to upload a lesson into this thread? You some kind of short sentence or something? Anything.

I visited there a long time ago. I loved the people. They were so nice to me. I went to church service and a youth group meeting and it was totally unreal. I also had 3 Korean roommates in high school. They were extremely kind to me. They went out of their way to help me learn Korean. It was one of those roommates who took me to his home in Korea. His family was so generous to me.
I made a lot of close friendships with some Koreans during high school and so I would like to go back and visit them one day. I kind of want to travel around Korea in my lifetime. I want my place here in America, but I want to adventure in Korea. It is a very beautiful place. I like the small cities that are more quiet.
Also, I would like to keep practicing until I am somewhat decent at constructing more complicated sentences. If I ever have a child, he/she will be raised with the English language and the Korean language.
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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
#20692633 - 10/12/14 12:46 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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im pretty much a total noob at Korean so there isn't much that id be able to contribute, but ill keep an eye out on this thread for sure
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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: XUL]
#20693345 - 10/12/14 03:33 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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안영하새요! Means hello pronoucnced "ahn young ha sae yo"
That's pretty cool you've been to korea . Its funny you mention youthgroup as well. I ve definitely sbeen to one of those and remember playing volleyball against other church groups haha...oh memories...
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Re: Reading, Writing, and Subsequently Speaking Korean [Re: FilthyShroomz]
#20693357 - 10/12/14 03:36 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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"In high school I went to Korean and roomed with Koreans. They taught me the language. I also visited Korea."
What do u mean you went to high school in korean and roomed with koreans?
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