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OfflineWeiliiiiii
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Bluing in mushrooms.
    #2064431 - 11/02/03 08:26 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Are all shrooms that bruise blue magic mushrooms? I was wondering because they are alot of shroomies ive been finding that i dont know what they are but they stain blue. Any help would be appeciated. Try to get pics soon. :crazy2: 


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Re: Bluing in mushrooms. [Re: Weiliiiiii]
    #2064438 - 11/02/03 08:42 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

no, they don't there is many many look-a-likes that bruse blue. Sorry. Be sure to ID and make sure you know they are 100% sure of identification before eating. for your own good.


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Re: Bluing in mushrooms. [Re: Shockey]
    #2064442 - 11/02/03 08:53 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Thanx man that what i thought, if all the shrooms that stained blue where active ya wouldnt have to look very hard for the magic mush mush.Peace


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Re: Bluing in mushrooms. [Re: Weiliiiiii]
    #2064443 - 11/02/03 08:55 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

What makes non magic mushies stain blue, i think shrooms are so cool man i want to study shrooms as a living.


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Re: Bluing in mushrooms. [Re: Shockey]
    #2064445 - 11/02/03 08:57 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

firsat of all; no, there aren't many look alikes taht bruise blue.

there are ,any species of mushrooms wich bruise blue and wich aren't containers of the psilocybiuan compounds [many of them toxic], but they are easy do distinguish if only you do some work to learn to identify them.

there is no substitute for identification, ever. if you don;t know how; learn. a good place to start is the mushrooms hunting faq. another good place to look is in a mushrooms identification handbook [i recomend audobon's field guide to north amercican mushrooms and mushrooms demystified by david aurora. a good guide to psilocybian mushrooms is specific is psilocybian mushrooms of the world by paul stamets].


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Re: Bluing in mushrooms. [Re: canid]
    #2064447 - 11/02/03 09:02 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

as an addition; there are also psilocybian mushrooms of the genera conocybe, incocybe and others who's toxicology is not well established and wich may be toxic to some degree, though they [the specific species] are not currently known to be. many members of these genera are known to be toxic, so all due caution should be exercised and consumption is not adviaable.


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Re: Bluing in mushrooms. [Re: canid]
    #2064450 - 11/02/03 09:09 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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What makes non magic mushies stain blue




to my understanding, the enzimatic reaction in both blue bruising inactive mushrooms [such as boletes] and in psilocybian mushrooms is not well studied, or understood.


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Re: Bluing in mushrooms. [Re: canid]
    #2064456 - 11/02/03 09:20 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Yes, srry for the many many look-a-likes heh.  Kinda eggagerated.  But there are mushrooms that bruse blue that are not psychoactive like he stated. :laugh:


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Re: Bluing in mushrooms. [Re: Shockey]
    #2064460 - 11/02/03 09:27 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

yeah; the trouble is tht the term "look-alike" is a subjective one. to those unindoctrinated in the area of mushrom idnetification, most mushrooms look alike to some drgree. unfortunately; it is these people who do not need to be eating wild mushrooms in thier current state of myco-education :smile:.


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Re: Bluing in mushrooms. [Re: Shockey]
    #2064461 - 11/02/03 09:28 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Thank you all for your great info. Happy huntin, peace.


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Re: Bluing in mushrooms. [Re: Weiliiiiii]
    #2064463 - 11/02/03 09:29 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

any time, to be sure. happy hunting :smile:.


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Re: Bluing in mushrooms. [Re: canid]
    #2064466 - 11/02/03 09:32 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

yeah have a great time hunting!


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Re: Bluing in mushrooms. [Re: Weiliiiiii]
    #2064629 - 11/02/03 12:02 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

The majority of bbluing mushrooms which are toxic are boletes which have porous bottoms instead of gills. I suggest avoiding the psilocybian species of inocybes becasue of their poisonouys relatives which are rich in muscarine and will make you sick.

The psilocine is an oxidation caused whent he flesh of the mushroom ocoining psilocine is damaged form human handling.

If you are interested in how these hallucinogenic shrooms and other drugs work then read my newset post in the General Questions forum of this site or read my paper, Close Encounters of the Panaeolus Kind which has a section in it on the bluing reaction. It is posted int he General Information Section of this site, differnet than the General Questions Forum.

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Re: Bluing in mushrooms. [Re: Weiliiiiii]
    #2064653 - 11/02/03 12:13 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)


Boletus erythropus

Like MJ said, most are boletes, but there are others out there.



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Re: Bluing in mushrooms. [Re: Rebirtha]
    #2066829 - 11/03/03 02:40 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

beware of the blue bruising GILLED bolete as well......


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Re: Bluing in mushrooms. [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2068637 - 11/03/03 08:58 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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mjshroomer said:
I suggest avoiding the psilocybian species of inocybes becasue of their poisonouys relatives which are rich in muscarine and will make you sick.





isnt muscarine the active ingredient in nutmeg?


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Re: Bluing in mushrooms. [Re: joeshitragpicker]
    #2068722 - 11/03/03 09:39 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

no.
muscarine is a dangerous [and potentialy deadly] mushroom toxin.


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Re: Bluing in mushrooms. [Re: canid]
    #2073045 - 11/05/03 01:45 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

this kind of reminds me of this story about a kid i once knew that ate mushrooms out of his backyard to get "fucked up"

psilly boy.


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Re: Bluing in mushrooms. [Re: joeshitragpicker]
    #2073197 - 11/05/03 02:38 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.erowid.org/plants/nutmeg/nutmeg_chemistry.shtml
Myristicin is the active ingredient in nutmeg  :laugh: 


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Re: Bluing in mushrooms. [Re: AuroricDistortions]
    #2073218 - 11/05/03 02:46 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Safrole is the primary compound followed by myristicin and elemicin and safrole can be used to make x and MDA and is the primary compound in Nutmeg and Mace

Spice Pages: Nutmeg & Mace (Myristica fragrans)
... Of the latter group, myristicin (methoxy-safrole, typically 4%) is responsible for the hallucinogenic effect of nutmeg. Myristica fragrans: Grenada's flag. ...
www-ang.kfunigraz.ac.at/~katzer/engl/Myri_fra.html - 25k - Cached - More pages from this site


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