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OfflineKiafi
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So Much Violence
    #2064360 - 11/02/03 06:53 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)


I just had this conversation last night.

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Him: u miss everything..
Syphonic666: hey, no one invited
Him: i got my own pad now---and things here are fucking FUN... and you've been missingo out...
Him: dude..
Him: you're always invited...
Syphonic666: well last night was pretty cool anyway
Him: (Number).....
Him: gimme a call..
Him: anytime dude...
Syphonic666: okay
Him: hey do you know saint?
Him: snow's boyfriend?
Syphonic666: nope
Syphonic666: oh (saint's actual name)?
Him: yeah, (name) or saint
Him: dude...do you like him
Him: i think he's a BITCH
Syphonic666: good
Him: hes TOTALLY wrong for snow
Syphonic666: i agree
Syphonic666: he's an 'outlaw biker'
Him: cause i thihnk your wrong, cause this is Saint
Syphonic666: hahaha
Syphonic666: and his HAIR (Joking, thinking this is Flipper)
Syphonic666: plus we used to have an affair (Still joking)
Him: and i DARE you to fucking show your pussy ass face you dumb fucking shit
Syphonic666: ouch
Him: you realize how half the pit hates your ass
Syphonic666: somebody's been drinking
Him: the other half wont even admit they know you (HUH?)
Him: naw, i havnt
Him: i just cant fucking stand you
Him: this aint got nuthin to do with Flipper or Joker or anyhint
Him: you know bam-bam?
Syphonic666: nope
Him: cause thats gonna be the last two things you gonna hear bitch
Syphonic666: hahaha
Him: think im playin?
Syphonic666: playin?
Him: go to the pit friday
Syphonic666: dude, assuming this is actually Saint, you're freaking out for no reason
Him: you dont beleave its Saint?
Him: how bout i whip out my dick and smack you in the foreheard, then you can show your bitch ass mama the mushroom tip and she'll tell you its me
Him: bitch
Syphonic666: hahahaah
Syphonic666: christ, sorry
Syphonic666: i never insulted you or anything
Him: hahahahahaha bitch
Him: dude, you tell me my friends are weak, that thier bitches
Syphonic666: wha?
Him: ima throw down before you say shit,. cept i dont want snow mad at me
Him: what about when you were talkin bout snow (BUH?)
Syphonic666: when
Him: i know you were, cause i got ears all over the pit, i got that shit ld
Syphonic666: talking about snow? when
Him: what about you sayin my boy Flipper a loser? (HUH?)
Him: i didnt tell him yet
Him: cause i want to settle ths thing
Him: face to face
Him: i mean, fist to face
Syphonic666: when did i call Flipper a loser???? i have NO fucking idea what you're talking about
Him: well, im mean, so maybe pipe to face
Him: i got an idea of it bitch
Syphonic666: i might have called him a pansy jokingly to his face when i was drunk (Which I already talked to him about)
Him: but behind his back, you like guys from the back?
Him: is that it? or do you just push the milkdud?
Syphonic666: no, what are you talking about
Syphonic666: push the milkdud?
Syphonic666: dude, calm down
Him: do you ram guys in the ass is what i was sayin?
Syphonic666: constantly
Him: bitch, ima pop some valium right after your bitch ass thumps againts the cold hard cement
Syphonic666: hahaha
Syphonic666: this is SO Flipper, and if it is Saint, then you need to stop impersonating people
Him: impersonating people?
Him: wtf, bitch, give me your number, ill call you right now
Syphonic666: what, at 330?
Him: if this is dave you got nuthin to worry about, sall in the goods
Syphonic666: why are you being so violent man? i still havent insulted either of you
Syphonic666: even if i think youre wrong for Snow, it doesnt mean i want to start shit
Him: if this is Saint, you got about 35
Him: 35 minutes\
Him: thats how long it will take to get to you house
Syphonic666: okay
Him: i think your wrong for living, i aint gonna tell you
Him: ask Snow if she thinks were right for each other
Syphonic666: dude, its just an opinion, its not like i hate you and think you need to break up
Him: i hate you and think your head and body need to break up
Syphonic666: im just saying that, from the ONE time i saw you together, you didnt seem right, sorry for fucking having an opinion
Him: just some time apart
Him: i accept your sorry crap
Him: maybe
Syphonic666: i dont want to start shit man, i NEVER insult people behind their backs
Him: yeah you did, you just did when you thought it was Flipper talking
Syphonic666: yeah, all i said was that you're an 'outlaw biker', its from the ladder theory
Syphonic666: doesnt mean i hate you
Him: ladder?
Him: wtf does that mean? biker outlaw
Syphonic666: women like men with money and power
Him: be homeless, get shot, have three of your best friends die, another 7 or 8 doing 30 plus years in prison, then see wtf you are
Him: bitch
Him: i dont have money OR power, Snow loves me
Syphonic666: toughness, street cred, etc, = power
Syphonic666: i DO think that you're being good to her, i just dont think its a long long term thing
Syphonic666: prove me wrong, man
Him: you dont even know anyone i would have creds with, if you were in HALF the incidents i was in, you wouldnt be alive
Him: i will prove you wrong, cause i love her
Him: and unless theres something shes not telling me, this is gonna last
Syphonic666: good, but i still dont see why you're getting so pissed off at me, man
Syphonic666: i think youve got me all wrong
Him: naw, youve got me wrong. you disrespected me, alright ill let it go, but BEHIND MY BACK is what gets to me
Syphonic666: just voicing an opinion, i didnt insult you
Syphonic666: i only met you with Snow once
Him: you said you agrred that i was a bitch
Syphonic666: no i didnt, i said good
Him: you said i agree
Syphonic666: i said good
Syphonic666: not i agree
Syphonic666: i said i agree to you being wrong for Snow
Him: and my hair? how much of a red neck bitch are you to look at my hair?
Syphonic666: which, as i said, prove me wrong
Syphonic666: i was JOKING
Syphonic666: and the affair thing
Him: call it bad? bitch, look at your face
Him: not all at once, you might hurt yourself
Syphonic666: you're being irrational, im trying to apologize
Syphonic666: at least i didnt go back on what i said
Him: you talked shit behind my back, your trying to aviod hospital bills
Him: what do you mean "at least"
Him: ok, at least i aint beat youir bitch ass yet
Syphonic666: would you rather i pretend i didnt say what i did and go into denial?
Him: bitch, fuck you and denial, you got no choice, then it would be lying and shit talking, that calls for a troma fish bomb
Syphonic666: troma fish bomb?
Him: i cant tell you, once you know, its too late
Him: dont try lookin that shit up onlione, you wont find it
Syphonic666: hey, im trying to be nice and apologetic, if you want to keep yelling at me then theres no point in talking
Him: if you take back what you said its all good, otherwise, the shit doesnt only hit the fan, it covers every motherfucker in the room
Syphonic666: then i take it back
Him: alright, no more talkin shit
Syphonic666: deal
Syphonic666: sorry man
Him: you never know whos screen name i'll be on
Him: i got ears an eyes, play it low key, even watch what you say at home
Him: your mom fills me in the details while i fill her in de tail
Him: the tail**
Syphonic666: yeah, shes such a whore
Him: hey, whores a mean word...shes a sexual exshabisionist
Him: i cant spell
Him: i gotta bizzounce out this bizzitch
Him: bizzitcch
Syphonic666: haha
Him: ?
Him: visions of 40's
Him: peace
Syphonic666: cya

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I'm sick of all of the hate I keep finding. I'm sick of irrational people who try so damned hard to prove how tough they are. I'm sick of assholes who are always so quick to throw the first punch. I try to be nice, I try to apologize. I voice an opinion, and it turns into some huge, violent angry conversation where he insults me endlessly for no fucking reason.

I'm settled on it today; hate and anger is de-evolutionary. His ego and anger has turned him into the person he is: boring and volatile.

Starting today I'm going to strive to be way more approachable and loving, and nice, because I'm tired of fighting for no reason.



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Everything is true. Nothing is 'permitted'.



Every man and woman is a star.
Each star is it's own prison.


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Re: So Much Violence [Re: Kiafi]
    #2065416 - 11/02/03 05:11 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

It is good that this negativity causes you aversion.

You possess the same ego as he. Your life and your experiences are what differentiate your ego from his. His life and his experiences are the reason he is as hostile as he's demonstrated. I think it's pretty clear that this person has a lot of resentment toward other people or situations to which you are not connected, and that may be the reason he can grow so violent over so little.

I think it's important that you have compassion for this person. It is an excellent opportunity to cultivate the loving disposition you expressed a wish to attain. After all, had you a similar life experience as he, or he to you, the two of you may have been best of friends.

Good luck, and thank you for the valueable lessons.


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Re: So Much Violence [Re: Kiafi]
    #2065443 - 11/02/03 05:19 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

"Him: you dont even know anyone i would have creds with, if you were in HALF the incidents i was in, you wouldnt be alive"

I would have said "I'm still alive because I'm smart enough to not get into situations like that. I mean, you're threatening to come over here and beat the shit out of me just because I said I didn't like you. No wonder you've spent time in jail and your friends are dropping like flies."

But then he might have come over and kicked my ass. I probably would have called the police and had him arrested.


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Re: So Much Violence [Re: Phluck]
    #2074094 - 11/05/03 07:07 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Ped, what the hell are you talking about? why should Kiafi feel any compassion for that guy? he seems like an asshole. i think people like that, you should try not to be around them too much. less to do with them, the better.


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Re: So Much Violence [Re: Entelle]
    #2074392 - 11/05/03 08:39 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Compassion is the ultimate weapon. Show it to your enemy with no remorse.


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Re: So Much Violence [Re: Entelle]
    #2076170 - 11/06/03 06:57 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Entelle said:
Ped, what the hell are you talking about? why should Kiafi feel any compassion for that guy? he seems like an asshole. i think people like that, you should try not to be around them too much. less to do with them, the better.




Well, I don't hate my right arm, so I shouldn't hate any person either. Actually, I can honestly say that I don't hate anything or anyone...
Peace.


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Like being here
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Re: So Much Violence [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2076208 - 11/06/03 07:57 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

> I can honestly say that I don't hate anything or anyone...

What is love without hate?

(Well said, Ped.)


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Re: So Much Violence [Re: Seuss]
    #2076383 - 11/06/03 10:17 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Seuss said:
What is love without hate?





Still love? You don't have to hate anyone to make love stronger.
Peace.


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Like being here
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Re: So Much Violence [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2077123 - 11/06/03 03:14 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

>> why should Kiafi feel any compassion for that guy? he seems like an asshole. i think people like that, you should try not to be around them too much

Certainly there are circumstances which we aren't able to handle properly. On such occasions, we should distance ourselves from the situation. But should we posess the capacity and insight to recognize from where the conflict stems, and the skill to ultimately end the conflict in a manner which is meaningful and non-violent, then such an encounter can be an excellent opportunity for Kiafi to move toward his wish of conducting himself from a loving disposition.

>> What is love without hate?

Hate can be characterized by a resistence directed against other people. Often the resistence arises when a threat is perceived. Hatred arises from and breeds increased intolerance, solidifying a sense of isolation. Love is often thought of as the opposite of hate. For this to be true, we need to suppose that love means acceptance and warmth, and that hate means rejection, bitterness. I don't believe such contrasts can be made.

Hate is something incredibly superficial and ignornant. It is a a phenomenon painfully simple and chaotic-minded. When we feel hatred, we find that we are uncomfortable and tight, even physically. Many people choose to cope with these feelings in pursuit of self-validation, anger and hatred being great validators of ego. When we are angry with someone, we grasp on to ourselves and bolster our sense of identity. It can be observed simply by walking down a busy street that most people believe a firm sense of identity to be a source of stability, and therefore happiness. But with careful scrutiny we will find such a viewpoint to be deceptive, and that the more rigid our sense of self, the more isolated and unhappy we become.

Therefore, hatred cannot be the opponent of love. Instead, hatred can be thought of as a perpetuating factor and biproduct of our self-grasping, of our strong sense of self-awareness. Being too self-aware interferes with our capacity to function with love and grace. After all, if we could hear our own ears, no doubt we would have difficulty hearing anything at all. If we can see our own eyes, we cannot see much else. Hatred, then, is not the opposite of love. Instead, it is the blinding obstacle which prevents us from embracing love.

Compassion therefore is the remedy for this sickness. Cultivating compassion allows us to gently reduce our self-awareness and sense of self-importance. This destroys our isolating tendancies, and begins to unravel the tightness of our anger and hatred. In this context, compassion is the ultimate weapon and the ultimate defense against all that should threaten us. Compassion brings us a sense of true stability, and true happiness.


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Re: So Much Violence [Re: Ped]
    #2077370 - 11/06/03 04:23 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I would'a told that fool to bring his sorry ass to my house..


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Re: So Much Violence [Re: Bhairabas]
    #2078293 - 11/06/03 09:38 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

seen vanilla Sky?
"the sweet ain't as sweet without the sour."

I cherish my relationships because they are made with people who care about me, unlike the rest of this pathetic human race. i feel free to distance myself from those people who deserve nothing but comtempt


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Re: So Much Violence [Re: Entelle]
    #2078329 - 11/06/03 09:49 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I hate Hitler. I hate war. I hate many things.


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Re: So Much Violence [Re: TheCow]
    #2079053 - 11/07/03 01:08 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Nobody enters into a positive moment in a relationship with the thought "Gee, I wish we had been fighting with eachother earlier so that this moment would be that much more special."


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Re: So Much Violence [Re: Ped]
    #2079899 - 11/07/03 06:17 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Ped said:
Nobody enters into a positive moment in a relationship with the thought "Gee, I wish we had been fighting with eachother earlier so that this moment would be that much more special."




No doubt. Hate has no justification and it is a complete waste of energy and the quality of the moment. What is the point in hating Hitler? For one, it is in the past. If he were alive today and was doing the same thing right now, there is still no point in hating him. He might be doing some very unfortunate things, but he is just misguided. He is one of us. No matter how much you hate him, he is still fucking human. He IS one of us.

Hatred blinds. It preoccupies and it blinds.
Peace.


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Re: So Much Violence [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2079954 - 11/07/03 06:40 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

People that act like this are so "cool" I dont understand why people incite unecessary hostility. Does he think hes a ganster or something silly like that? This guy sounds like he has the integrity of a tiger with a sign around its neck saying "im a lion". He's acting like a complete tosser towards you but I'll bet anything as soon as theres girls around he turns on the charm.

Oh and whats "the pit" do you all live in a hole or something?


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Re: So Much Violence [Re: Oook]
    #2080508 - 11/07/03 11:47 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

> What is love without hate?

My point is that love and hate are both categories that we have created.  One cannot exist without the other, at least within the dualistic nature of our reality.  Of course, if one lives without dualism, then anything is possible.  :smile:


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Re: So Much Violence [Re: Seuss]
    #2080511 - 11/07/03 11:50 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

What I am saying (and Ped, much better than I have said) is that love and hate can exist without the other. People who have never loved can hate. People who have never hated can love.
Peace.


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I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
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Loving every breath of you

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Re: So Much Violence [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2080742 - 11/07/03 01:19 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Maybe there is no point to hating Hitler. If he were alive today. I would want to murder him. Over and over again. Fuck if that isnt peaceful. Fuck if thats contradictory, hating someone for killing, then doing the same thing. Maybe I am not perfect, but I do not pretend to be. I have family that got burned alive in ovens thanks to him. I realize vengence isnt going to help them. But I HATE him.


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Re: So Much Violence [Re: TheCow]
    #2081053 - 11/07/03 03:03 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Justifyable. But how much good has that hatred brought to you?


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Re: So Much Violence [Re: Ped]
    #2083185 - 11/08/03 06:59 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Ped said:
Justifyable. But how much good has that hatred brought to you?




Exactly. Hating a man that has been (suspossedly.. hehe) dead for decades no matter what he did is just a complete waste of energy and time. I mean, I don't carry around a grudge towards the people who crucified Jesus or the volcano that wiped out some civilization.
Peace.


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you

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