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shroomekalb96
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Tincture!? Preperation and experiences - It's worth it [Re: oneofus] 1
#21119966 - 01/14/15 11:07 AM (9 years, 16 days ago) |
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Here's a photo update, yesterday i pulled out 25ml as too have products at different saturation periods and then added 30-35ish ml of patron back into the bottle to continue to pull from the base soup.
in this photo you can see the layers best. theres the ground up mush layer and then the clowdy layer on top looks like 2 seperte layers in person

cant tell in photos but liquid is rather transparent

 Tried about 7-10ml of first pull last night. After an hour or so i had slight euphoric feelings right before bed(could be placebo or weed), and then had an odd dream. so no true undeniable affects but maybe more of like a preiview trip... lol. when i actaully plan on tripping ill probably take a shot glass worth to get full affects. till then good vibes to all   
EDIT: thanks oneofus for the thread links
Edited by shroomekalb96 (01/14/15 11:10 AM)
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musiclover420
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Tincture!? Preperation and experiences - It's worth it [Re: shroomekalb96]
#21120863 - 01/14/15 03:03 PM (9 years, 15 days ago) |
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Looks nice Also nice glass 
I wish I had found some amanitas this season, when I have more $ I will have to buy some or maybe wait until next season. I was talking to my grandma about them and she claimed she tried them at some point. Which wouldn't surprise me because she was into some crazy stuff. I thought it was kind of funny though. Definitely let us know how it goes when you really try it out.
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Pandemoon
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Tincture!? Preperation and experiences - It's worth it [Re: musiclover420]
#21123658 - 01/15/15 03:08 AM (9 years, 15 days ago) |
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@ oneofus: Based on your (nice! ) pictures, your liquid(s) seems to be less saturated than mine, even brighter / lighter. I tried to grind my mushrooms to a very fine powder, the smaller the chunks the better I'd say. I thought your's would be darker than mine, due to the pantherinas. My "first wash" became really dark red after just two days.
My second tincture isn't as strong as my first. I tried it twice since, about half a shotglass for little sedating and music-enhancing effects. But it's weird that you didn't get any effects at all..
A friend of mine used to put (two to three) whole mushrooms (var. muscaria) into Vodka, not grinded at all. We drank a shotglass of this more yellow-shaded Vodka about two weeks later (5 people), and we all got the Amanita working, like beeing very talkable and restless, some kind of beeing stressed as if you were looking for something in a hurry but you aren't.. These have been my very first experiences with amanitas and this method was how I hit on the idea of my first tincture.
Maybe we just DO need more time. I've chosen two days because the color turned out to be very dark by then, seemd to be enough for me due to the fact that I planned a second wash furthermore. If you don't grind them small enough you need more time, maybe it's that simple..?
@shroomekalb96: This looks awesome, nearly as saturated as my last year's tincture! If you now let it stand still for one more day it will become more transparent and you may be able to suck off / skim off the top layer of liquid somehow.
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Edited by Pandemoon (01/15/15 05:04 AM)
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Tincture!? Preperation and experiences - It's worth it [Re: Pandemoon]
#21129841 - 01/16/15 03:40 PM (9 years, 13 days ago) |
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Pandemoon, thanks for the additional information. I believe it's more in the dosage and/or the mushrooms (it's first time for me with pantherina). If the cause of low potency was due to the unproper grinding, than the mushrooms pieces leftovers would have kept the potency in them. That wasn't the case. I can tell because before throwing them away, I kept them in the mouth sucking on them for quite some time and I didn't get any effect (while the same done with cubensis in the past... surprised me in the opposite way). Given your experience with tincture at lower dose I believe that my situation may depend on a combination of low dosage and low potency mushrooms.
I'll probably try in the future with muscaria.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Tincture!? Preperation and experiences - It's worth it [Re: oneofus]
#24704198 - 10/12/17 07:53 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey guys,
seems like this thread is dead for a long time. I am from germany too. I read this whole thread and decided to collect some amanitas muscaria. I found some, though half of them were full of maggots but the rest I dried so I got 3g of dried shrooms. I just set up the tincture today with 50% vodka. I'll probably send some pics in the future and report how my tincture worked.
Greetings, Abraxys
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Tincture!? Preperation and experiences - It's worth it [Re: Pandemoon] 2
#24856469 - 12/19/17 06:51 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Tincture!? Preperation and experiences - It's worth it [Re: LizardWizard]
#24856932 - 12/20/17 03:20 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nice one, how many grams did you put in there? Half an oz?
I always made three pulls and then combined the liquids. Two tablespoons of this tincture is enough for me to feel it.
Please report back on any of your next steps. 
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Tincture!? Preperation and experiences - It's worth it [Re: Pandemoon]
#24856955 - 12/20/17 04:01 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have dropped in a bag that was ordered as being 28g (1oz), minus a cap or two I already ate as is, BUT it was only 28 gram because they weren't all the way dry. They were very pliable, dried at 40°C (104°F), so I gave them an hour in a cracked oven at about 85°C (185°F) before crushing them to a powder with my hands and then transferring the resulting flaky heap to the jar. I wanted to give it a final weigh before and after the oven run, but it seems the leprechauns you see when Amanita takes hold, took hold of my scale somehow. I'll just hope they return it for my next batch 
My next step will be filtering the liquid in a week, probably not through a coffee filter though. I think I'll use a cotton ball in a bottleneck, as per "percolator tek" for some herbals. I've found filtering through cotton balls to be very effective and way faster than through a coffee filter in the past, so I'm hoping it won't be any different with this. I do usually throw it through a sieve to get the biggest gunk out beforehand.
After that I'll be waiting a few days to let the "brain" (we could maybe also call it the "mother"? Pertaining to it's resemblance of a vinegar mother.) form before straining it off again through a cotton ball.
I'll definitely try a second pull and if it still seems to contain a lot, a third. When you say 2 tablespoons is enough to feel it, I assume you mean psychotropic effects?
I use it therapeutically (though I really like the threshold psychotropic effects at lower doses as well) for pain, fatigue, brain fog and other stuff related to lyme disease, and that calls for a bit less than psychotropic effects. I can't imagine Flying much higher daily to be very enjoyable :p
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Tincture!? Preperation and experiences - It's worth it [Re: LizardWizard]
#24863252 - 12/23/17 05:13 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'll be filtering it out earlier than planned. After a colour judge and bio-assay, I decided I will filter it out today (after a 3 day pull), then I'll pour in new alcohol and let it sit for 2 days more, and then once more for 1 day, though each time with less alcohol of the same strength. This way, I hope to keep it a bit more concentrated. I'll then let the combined liquid stand for 3 more days before collecting the "brain" or "mother" (like in vinegar). The mash will be given back to the earth at the end of the last pull, which will be on Christmas. The tincture will then also be tested for the first time, before letting the brain form. I think I will keep the brain and bio-assay it to try and compare it's effects to the tincture alone, in varying doses.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Tincture!? Preperation and experiences - It's worth it [Re: LizardWizard]
#24995722 - 02/15/18 06:13 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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future reference! thanks for the writeup, Pandemoon!
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My tincture [Re: Haywire]
#25049070 - 03/08/18 01:36 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hello guys. Its been a while since my last post. Now I managed to finish the tincture last year too and wanted to share some pictures from my final tincture. Never tried it yet can it become less potential after some time?
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Dworkk
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Tincture!? Preperation and experiences - It's worth it [Re: Pandemoon]
#25367056 - 08/04/18 07:09 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thank you for sharing this. I’m wondering why it needs a second wash? Am I missing something? I’d planned on just doing the one, but there may be a factor I haven’t considered. Thank you for educating me.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Tincture!? Preperation and experiences - It's worth it [Re: Dworkk]
#25367070 - 08/04/18 07:16 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Dworkk said: Thank you for sharing this. I’m wondering why it needs a second wash? Am I missing something? I’d planned on just doing the one, but there may be a factor I haven’t considered. Thank you for educating me.
A second wash is usually to try and get out any remaining actives. Though maybe there's another reason in this case.
Depending on the plant it can be worth doing 2-3+ washes but there are many factors, and each wash will have a lower yield. 1-2 long washes would probably get most of the actives out usually, but some plants are more "stubborn" then others. Multiple shorter washes could result in a purer extract depending on the desired end result, but for tincture that wouldn't really matter.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Tincture!? Preperation and experiences - It's worth it [Re: musiclover420]
#25369126 - 08/05/18 10:12 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Of course! That makes perfect sense. Thank you for the cohesive explanation. Love this joint;)
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Tincture!? Preperation and experiences - It's worth it [Re: Pandemoon]
#25377455 - 08/09/18 02:40 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think the nausea is actually from not drying them completely. Drying in the sun just doesn’t seem to do it. Get a cheap dehydrator and get them cracker dry. Zero nausea;)
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Tincture!? Preperation and experiences - It's worth it [Re: musiclover420]
#27988327 - 10/08/22 02:15 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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The Amanita muscaria strains growing in America tend to have GI effects on the body, while the ones growing in Europe seem to give you mainly psychotropic effects.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Tincture!? Preperation and experiences - It's worth it [Re: Pandemoon]
#28129029 - 01/07/23 09:24 AM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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How did this method work out for you in comparison to the original post? I just got my own little tincture started but then saw this method where you did multiple washes with rum.
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Tincture!? Preperation and experiences - It's worth it [Re: Fungi Bear]
#28531360 - 11/06/23 05:15 AM (2 months, 21 days ago) |
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I've had upsetting GI tract issues from the ones in Europe too, just so you know.
The times there was gastric upset, there was no mental intoxication or any other physical symptoms other than an upset stomach, bowel cramps and diarrhea. Both times the specimens were young and fresh enough so no spoilage could have occured, one being a cap that was almost flat but still in perfect shape, the other being in the bulbous umbrella form stage.
I've also had a few more pleasant experiences, and I can't think of one thing whatsoever what could signify beforehand what experience should be expected. It's something that's made me more weary of consuming them, though not at all against it. More so that it's something that should be thought about and preferably have a prepared setting for.
That being said, I have also been sick with barely any trippy effect at all on psychedelic truffles shared with my wife while she had a great trip, and vice versa, she has been sick while I have been fine and tripping as well.
It's hard to say for me wether it's an effect coming from mushroom constituents or simply a reaction that is sometimes to be expected from the human body to these substances.
Open for discussion of course.
About dessication: I've dried fly agaric mushrooms on dehydrators and had no effects when consumed. Same with purchased amanita muscaria from online sources out of siberia IIRC.
Whenever I've had effects, wether it be GI tract upset or tripping (on multiple occasions) it's been after frying fresh amanita muscaria in butter in a pan with a tiny bit of salt and pepper. Between a quarter and a whole cap has proven enough on a few occasions to feel pleasantly intoxicated. This is not to be taken as dosage advice though, as strength between different amanita muscaria mushrooms can vary greatly, and caution should always be taken in the form of careful sampling and very patient eating, taking time in between pieces (in my general caution I take 1/8ths of a cap before waiting some time).
That's just my view for my own mild personal use though. I'm sure a lot more than what I have found to be pleasurable is possible when one is either not careful or just deliberately indulging. To each their own.
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