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drug dog q
#2064179 - 11/02/03 01:40 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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So we're coming back from Canada and sure nuff, we get told to park in the little garage. I gotta stand there while all our bags are all laid out and searched and they bring the dog in. They keep asking me if there's anything I wanna tell them and we were cleaner than clean can be.. dog smells my bag, moves on, does the next two and nothing, and then one guy to my left asks me a question so I look at him to address him, and in the corner of my eye I see the dog handler do something weird with his hand. The dog wasn't doing anything when I was watching but after the little hand motion starts going crazy on the bag. They rip all our shit up and literally rip out the inside lining of my trunk so now I gotta get it fixed (on top of all the doghair and paw-shaped oil prints that disgusting mutt left on my upholstery). I was wondering, you think this guy signaled the dog to get a "hit" on the bag and they were going on a hunch? They even went so far as to test sand on my floor mat. These guys musta thought we were idiots but what are the chances this guy actually did signal the dog to get a hit on the bag? My friend has never kept drugs in it (he's still in high school and they bring drug dogs in there all the time).
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Re: drug dog q [Re: ]
#2064972 - 11/02/03 12:56 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've heard a few stories like this, I don't know for sure it's true but it wouldn't suprise me in the slightest. Cops do whatever they want.
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fucking assholes
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Innernaut
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Re: drug dog q [Re: ]
#2068599 - 11/03/03 06:38 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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I definitely agree... most cops are fucking assholes with some insecurity complex that makes them sadistic controlling fucks. Fuck em... I always reccomend keeping a disital audio recorder in the car and tape recording any confrontation with a police officer. Your lawyer will love you. And you'll have something to fuck back with...
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Re: drug dog q [Re: ]
#2111305 - 11/16/03 11:22 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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I REALLY wouldn't DOUBT it, I often think that alot of the drug dogs are j ust BULLSHIT. While in washington a few years or so ago, a few friends and I got pulled over so there was a little weed around in someones backpack but all the weed had been put into the backpack.
Then while they were searching the car he did this little thing I watched him do the little signal style thing the dog went crazy of course. So they brought the bag out and told us to take what we had out, then the cop decided no I'm not going to let them do that so he took it out himself. He reached right for the outside pockets first which was where it was how would he know it was in there???? when it had supposedly not been opened yet?? When they let us go I got back in the car and the dumb fucks had left a small keychain tupperware style container on the seat that was filled with weed but how did this keychain get there when it had been in the backpack ????? Also the dumb fucks left a bong in the car and several other things.
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I don't understand how the cops did anything wrong there. You had multiple smoking devices, and pot. The dog smelled it, the cops found it.....
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drug dogs are like cheat codes in a videogame. not fair.
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No no, it's not about having any of that, what I was saying is I don't think the dog really did shit, how did it not find the other things which were way worse but it did find what was in a backpack??? The item was in my backpack but then left on the seat of the car, I never removed it the cop did their not allowed to open your shit without you present and looking at it. So he looked in my shit and used the dog as a fake to say he found it and he did this using a signal.
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A few years ago I trained my friends dog to sniff out cannabis. It started out as a project to see if I could train a dog to locate drugs, but ended up with me learning a lot about how drug dogs operate.
Dogs have very short attention spans. I couldn't send her into a room and expect her to find anything. Instead, I had to lead her to each thing that I wanted her to sniff, and she would 'dig' when she alerted onto something.
Her range was very limited... she had to be within a foot or two to detect something. If I put a small dime bag in the back of a desk, she wouldn't alert unless I opened up the desk for her to sniff inside. If I put a dime bag in a bookbag, and left it with two or three others, she would alert on the correct one every time.
If there was nothing there for her to find, but she knew that I wanted her to find something, she would give false positives. I never practiced enough with her to tell if this was a lack in my skills at training, or if it was indicative of all dogs. I can easily see how the police could treach a dog to alert on command... even if the command was unconscious on the part of the cop.
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Re: drug dog q [Re: Seuss]
#2117991 - 11/17/03 06:52 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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its easy, pig pulls tight on the choke collar, dog whimpers, you get searched, what are you going to do, put the dog on the stand and ask him if he was actually smelling any drugs?
no with a dog you are at the mercy of the handler, some of whom are so wound up in this whole fucking war on drugs that they would devote their lives to it, i doubt they would have a problem hurting a dog for their lost cause
what i want to know is, is there some sort of shemical that would block the dogs ability to smell anything. somthing that would block up the receptors, just sprinkle it all over your shit and wham- dog cant smell shit.
i tried asking a drug dog's handler after a demonstration i saw once, but he wouldnt answer my ?'s what a dick
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Re: drug dog q [Re: ZippoZ]
#2121419 - 11/18/03 11:19 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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I heard that cayene pepper will stop dogs from being able to smell for a while... Also they are very afraid of tiger shit.
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Re: drug dog q [Re: ZippoZ]
#2121578 - 11/19/03 12:31 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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I dont know if this is true but I heard that Petroleum(sp?) burns the dogs senses for a bit. I dont know, this is what I heard in high school from some kid since they told us the drug dogs would be coming in and sniffing lockers.
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Re: drug dog q [Re: Osker246]
#2121890 - 11/19/03 03:31 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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People coming out of morrocco, used to keep pregnant dogs on there buses right up to the border, then dump them out for customs, the theory was that once a dog smells the urine of a pregnant dog, it loses the ability to sniff out other lesser smells, and only concertrates on pregnant dog smell. i'm unsure if this actually works, as I havent tryed it, but plenty of people i have met swear by it. and the amount of stray dogs around morroccos main border points is testerment to its popularity.
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a, most american money has traces of cocaine on it, b, the pig pocketed the cash
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Re: drug dog q [Re: Paid]
#2129723 - 11/22/03 09:39 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's really interesting.
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I just read that they are getting real strict at the Canadian border because of all the hydroponic reefer that's being grown there and smuggled into the U.S. It's big bucks, for both sides I guess. Bastards!
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Re: drug dog q [Re: Paid]
#2130876 - 11/23/03 05:31 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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What if the drug dog was female?
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Seuss
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> What if the drug dog was female?
Doh!
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It makes no difference, as why would a male dog be interested in a pregnant female, not like he can inpregnate her 
It has somthing to do with the amount of hormones givens off by a pregnant bitch, this clouds ALL dogs smell system.
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Re: drug dog q [Re: G a n j a]
#2829347 - 06/25/04 10:54 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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as for the money issue ive had them try that one on me, i was with my dope dealer and he was on parole. anyhow he had a built 351 mustang, we were about to drag race some other car, we squeled a wheel and the cop was already waiting. anyhow he pulled us over and put a drug dog on the car, we had just got thru coming out of wendys, my dude had his prego wife with him. i was in the back seat. the dog came to me and i gave him a french fry, lmfao. but heres the part where it gets sour! the dog sat down and stopped sniffing, i kept giving him french frys. apparently that was the singal that that dog was trained to do when it found something? he made me get out. i gave the dog another french fry( just to fuck with them). he asked to empty out my pockets and to open my wallet.( i was riding with my dude because i was car shopping)he asked why i had so much money( about 3,000 dollars) i said because i work and pay taxes for it. he had the dog sniff my money he again sat down, they said the dog smelled coke on my money, iproceded to tell him all of europes money has coke on it proven fact, and america is next to mexico, do i look like a crack head? he asked where i got my money again, i just happened to have my stubs two of them( back then i would take one check and make it 3 weeks with out spending the other checks) and it amounted to about 2,000 dollars. i told him that this was harrassment and discrimination on the basis that he thought i was poor because i was disabled. he then had the dog go where the girl was sitting and the dog found one seed!
they said i had a attitude problem, i said that no i have a tax problem, they gve my friend a ticket.
the only reason i think they let me go as easy was because of the way i was dressed and the fact that i was in a band with one of their officers son! they asked me where i was going that night after this incident. it was the most bullshit i ever had to go thru, people laughing at us as they drove by. cops questioning my intellegence. its funny too because we were at the place where they filmed dukes of hazard, where they jump that famous rail road track.
anyhow thats my story on it, and oh yeah that petrolum trick wont work, thats the first thing they do is check your gas tank. they have the dog sniff around the car and to that point of the car then they open it. to be honest i dont think there is a way around it..
as for that dog trick that you are complaining about you need to look up on how much it costs to train a drug dog, and in these times they simply are running out of funding due to the fact of the terrorism threat they are resorting to training more dogs for explosive detection. thats my theory. i think they are using regular dogs.
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Re: drug dog q [Re: ]
#2829963 - 06/26/04 06:06 AM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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dogs work for biscuits not a pay check so it cost less to use them in a one man patrol car. that's my theory.
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Re: drug dog q [Re: UncleMike]
#2831348 - 06/26/04 05:18 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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but you have to pay the officer a lot more to train and take care of the dog, it costs way more in the end...
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Re: drug dog q [Re: ]
#2833336 - 06/27/04 12:11 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've heard many theories on how to distract a drug dog. The one i heard works is, if you have a female dog in heat, Take a soft rag and rub it on her butt, then take that rag and rub it in places that are about knee high to your front door or any other entrances, this will put the drug dog into a frenzy as soon as they enter your residents, and the trainers will not be able to work with the dogs. You can also have a male dog scent your house, that intimidates all other dogs, but it also stincts up your house.
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Thats an interesting plan, but what if the drug dog is a girl?
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loki addressed that question already, as for accuracy of the answer its questionable a best since we rarely have questions answered
a few things I am positive about, some dogs are trained to sniff drugs, some are trained to sniff covering agents... heres a few things they are trained to sniff for... the one that may suprise you is the LSD scent...
the smartest option is to no transport drugs, if you do make sure that they are located outside of the vehicle in an area that can be accessed by anyone, it gives you an out in the instances that you are searched/sniffed when it goes to court... "I wasnt aware the drugs were there, they were no ?in? my car and I have no idea how they go there"
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