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starsky7
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Re: How Necessary Is Weed For Your Good Shroom Trips [Re: nicechrisman]
#20619880 - 09/25/14 10:29 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: I can respect that
I second that.
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Re: How Necessary Is Weed For Your Good Shroom Trips [Re: PrimalSoup]
#20620662 - 09/26/14 08:57 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: I never had good trips combining, that's why I gave up weed entirely.  
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Ditto....although I gave up weed a llloooonnnngggg time ago for many reasons....Weed just plain doesn't jibe with me....period.
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Re: How Necessary Is Weed For Your Good Shroom Trips [Re: Thayendanegea]
#20620752 - 09/26/14 09:30 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I smoke during the trip and i always need it after. If i ever freak out on higher doses, herb always brings me back down.
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PrimalSoup
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Re: How Necessary Is Weed For Your Good Shroom Trips [Re: Thayendanegea]
#20621559 - 09/26/14 01:41 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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baltimark said:
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PrimalSoup said: I never had good trips combining, that's why I gave up weed entirely.  
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Ditto....although I gave up weed a llloooonnnngggg time ago for many reasons....Weed just plain doesn't jibe with me....period.
I meant that's why I wouldn't combine them. I eventually quit entirely after a long conversation with the mushroom spirits where they promised to reward me if I did that. And they did. 
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Re: How Necessary Is Weed For Your Good Shroom Trips [Re: PrimalSoup]
#20624031 - 09/27/14 12:18 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I thought it was essential since it increased the intensity but ive come to realize it makes the trip too introspective and confusing.
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Re: How Necessary Is Weed For Your Good Shroom Trips [Re: gman7104]
#20624255 - 09/27/14 02:12 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: How Necessary Is Weed For Your Good Shroom Trips [Re: Johnny Depp]
#20624278 - 09/27/14 02:27 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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There was not 1 trip in my life with no weed added to it. Many ppl say this and that, but I roll motherfuckers in advance every time (Terence McKenna did it, but don't get me wrong, I was doing it before I heard about the guy). Sometimes I smoke only one joint, other time more, but 1 thing is certain: right after ingestion I smoke big cahuna bomb and when I'm coming down I smoke all till it's gone(sometimes up to 5grams).
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Re: How Necessary Is Weed For Your Good Shroom Trips [Re: pedrito]
#20624344 - 09/27/14 03:12 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't mix much anymore. a year+ back I was smoking an eighth a day, and now it's easily down to a half a blunt in the morning and half of one at night. with that being said, when I do smoke it gives me the cloudy feeling 10x more than it used to, fogging up trips AND possibly what I could learn from them. only when I'm tripping much less than expected, and that's usually with Lucy since blotters vary in potency far more than strains.
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Re: How Necessary Is Weed For Your Good Shroom Trips [Re: TheMcthugnasty]
#20629536 - 09/28/14 06:54 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I never smoke weed before, during or after the trip. Only the next day.
In my opinion weed + psychedelics = WAY too much of an overwhelming experience. Involuntary panic.
A big no no to mix these substances with weed, if you ask me.
Sure, at first it worked well for me. But after some 10 trips- I started getting really bad experiences after smoking weed and actually, my weed experience changed after it as well.
I became way too sensitive for some strains and now I can only smoke mellow strains and only small amounts at a time or I get overwhelmed as well...
go figure
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Re: How Necessary Is Weed For Your Good Shroom Trips [Re: MotherNaturesSon]
#20633778 - 09/29/14 01:25 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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MotherNaturesSon said: I never smoke weed before, during or after the trip. Only the next day.
In my opinion weed + psychedelics = WAY too much of an overwhelming experience. Involuntary panic.
A big no no to mix these substances with weed, if you ask me.
Sure, at first it worked well for me. But after some 10 trips- I started getting really bad experiences after smoking weed and actually, my weed experience changed after it as well.
I became way too sensitive for some strains and now I can only smoke mellow strains and only small amounts at a time or I get overwhelmed as well...
go figure 
It's almost annoying to hear these kind of testimonies.First: weed is psychedelic too - I had mindblowing experinces on it. Second: why do some of you say that's wrong and wrong. That is your experience with it and not mine and of many I've tripped with. You say "In my opinion", but you should say " In my experience", because my experience is totally different. I'm gonna repeat myself: Few weeks ago I saw Terence Mckenna lecture (video ofc)in wich he talks about smoking weed while doing shrooms, so it was good for him too,it's good for me (its actually awesome for me) but it's not good for you and that's just fine. To me(smoking weed while doing something stronger) feels like doing line of coke when I'm plugged into universal knoledge. PLs don't get me wrong and don't be offended by my sayings,it's just that I've read soo many of these "opinions" and they are directed to ppl that would like to try it.I liked it every time I did it, but I always say that doesn't mean others will like it too. I actually strongly suggest that everybody should try it and even if they didn't like 1st time they should try again - it's an awesome hedonistic feeling among other qualities that it brings.
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Re: How Necessary Is Weed For Your Good Shroom Trips [Re: pedrito]
#20633860 - 09/29/14 03:18 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's almost annoying to hear these kind of testimonies.First: weed is psychedelic too - I had mindblowing experinces on it
I've hallucinated on excellent hash years ago. And I had endless numbers of what seemed like deep and meaningful epiphanies as well on weed, including that I was growing myself. But most of that is completely lost to time now.
But my mushroom trips, they all remain engraved in my mind like they happened yesterday - the insight doesn't fade. I think that's the major difference.
IME shrooms feed your mind but weed erodes it. When I was overindulging with dope my friends noticed and commented that it was making me into a softball, mentally. They were right. Nobody has ever said a negative word about the side-effects of shrooming, quite the contrary. 
And I've smoked while shrooming, I know that can feel amazing, but it took quitting weed entirely before shrooming became something more than simple recreation. 
I could mention I suppose that it almost always made me paranoid, but I've had paranoid trips as well and they're about a thousand times worse. 
Pure shrooming has no hangover either, other than the afterglow (which is a plus). I never got that from weed, I always had that fuzzy feeling afterward, and I got tired of that pretty easily.
None of this is my "opinion" it's all my "experience" and my experience is all I ever refer to when talking about such things. If it matters. 
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Re: How Necessary Is Weed For Your Good Shroom Trips [Re: PrimalSoup]
#20634105 - 09/29/14 07:18 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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@PrimalSoup I can find myself in your post. I really don't find weed that attractive no more (I was daily user) and all due to use of psychedelics. Maybe it's some kind of unconscious habit, but I really don't trip without ganja - ever. I don't smoke for months, but then I cook some cacti and call dealer ASAP.
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Re: How Necessary Is Weed For Your Good Shroom Trips [Re: pedrito]
#20635289 - 09/29/14 01:35 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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MotherNaturesSon said: I never smoke weed before, during or after the trip. Only the next day.
In my opinion weed + psychedelics = WAY too much of an overwhelming experience. Involuntary panic.
A big no no to mix these substances with weed, if you ask me.
Sure, at first it worked well for me. But after some 10 trips- I started getting really bad experiences after smoking weed and actually, my weed experience changed after it as well.
I became way too sensitive for some strains and now I can only smoke mellow strains and only small amounts at a time or I get overwhelmed as well...
go figure 
It's almost annoying to hear these kind of testimonies.First: weed is psychedelic too - I had mindblowing experinces on it. Second: why do some of you say that's wrong and wrong. That is your experience with it and not mine and of many I've tripped with. You say "In my opinion", but you should say " In my experience", because my experience is totally different. I'm gonna repeat myself: Few weeks ago I saw Terence Mckenna lecture (video ofc)in wich he talks about smoking weed while doing shrooms, so it was good for him too,it's good for me (its actually awesome for me) but it's not good for you and that's just fine. To me(smoking weed while doing something stronger) feels like doing line of coke when I'm plugged into universal knoledge. PLs don't get me wrong and don't be offended by my sayings,it's just that I've read soo many of these "opinions" and they are directed to ppl that would like to try it.I liked it every time I did it, but I always say that doesn't mean others will like it too. I actually strongly suggest that everybody should try it and even if they didn't like 1st time they should try again - it's an awesome hedonistic feeling among other qualities that it brings.

Look, dude, there's no need to get annoyed just because someone else's opinion and experience within the community differs from your own. What? You feel like your whole theory on the relationship between drugs and humanity has been threatened? That your illusion on the harmlessness of cannabis has been shaken?
I remember that attitude I remember I would unconsciously constantly try to make a subtle point about how my opinion had higher grounds than someone else's, especially concerning cannabis. Always trying to seem so competent, as if I've been in the game since forever and knew absolutely everything about it even though I had only been smoking a little over a year...
When did you join shroomery? 14? So this year, right?
Honestly, it is very easy to see that you are new to the scene of psychedelics, and leaning up against McKenna's experience in order to gain some sort of "psychedelic-practise high-ground" is about as noobish and you can get, no insult intended. But seriously?
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pedrito said: I saw Terence Mckenna lecture (video ofc)in wich he talks about smoking weed while doing shrooms, so it was good for him too,it's good for me
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pedrito said: I roll motherfuckers in advance every time (Terence McKenna did it, but don't get me wrong, I was doing it before I heard about the guy)
Like just... a little of + since I can still find posts like that in my own post history if I dig deep enough 
On a sidenote; concerning Mckenna,
Mckenna was a cool dude. He had his own, unique freak-on and he had very-- very interesting anthropologic theories that are worth much more attention than they've gotten in contrast to his ramblings about DMT.
He was, however, in my own opinion, far from being the absolute etalon of psychedelic practise. He was doing way too much and getting waaaay too into it. He was handing out horrible tips on dosage too. This 5 grams bullshit (and I've taken over 6 on several occasions) is the biggest overrated popoular-psychedelic culture hoo-haa, right next to the 'psychedelics make me enlightened' bullshit.
He seemed to have little to no regard for the uniqueness of every persons metabolism and psychological structure, not to mention the changes that apply to these structures over time, oh no! 5 grams is supposedly the perfect 'real' dose for anyone out there who want to be considered a deep psychonaut. Wrong!
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"In the new biography written by his brother Dennis, it is revealed that Terence had a bad trip on Mushrooms in the late 1980's and never again resumed the use of Psilocybin."
So his own suggested practise lead to that. Just thought you ought to know. You would do will to be your own tripper and not get too attached to McKenna's discipline. But enough about Mckenna, may he rest in peace that crazy psychedelic orator and respected anthropologist.
Back to you, the new guy on Shroomery.
First of all to say "In my opinion" or "In my experience" makes no actual difference, as my opinion on the matter is formed by my extensive, albeit not legendary experience. So your attempts to correct my communicative errors seem a bit more like an attempt to seem right in order to confirm your opinion.
Second; No one was saying what someone should or should not do. The thread reads "How Necessary Is Weed For Your Good Shroom Trips" I gave my personal experience and how I handled things and how they played out for me. It is completely valid to do so and I am aware of the fact that someone else might have a completely different experience. Heck, I know people who do. Likewise I know people (including myself) you USED to have a different experience, but after some time, ended up like myself. I never stated anyone should or shouldn't do anything actually, so why so annoyed and defensive?
Look, you're new and enthusiastic, I get that. But seriously, read into what someone is writing instead of just responding to the first impulse you get out of someone's text. Read into what someone with a different opinion is saying, weigh his words and then respond.
That or keep writing about shit they didn't say, correcting them where they don't need to be corrected, citing and appealing to pseudo-authority in order to seem competent on a matter of which you are yet clearly an acolyte (which is no shameful thing).
On a lighter note- I'm happy you're having a good experience with weed on top of shrooms, man. May it last and give you a blast, it sure used to be a blast for me. However, I'm currently very satisfied with my version of not smoking the entire day that I do psychedelics.
And that is jut how necessary weed is for my good Shroom trip and trust me, I'm not the only one.
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Edited by MotherNaturesSon (09/29/14 01:43 PM)
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Re: How Necessary Is Weed For Your Good Shroom Trips [Re: MotherNaturesSon]
#20635993 - 09/29/14 03:44 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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@MotherNaturesSon Lol, nice essay. Keep up the good work Sherlock.
Edited by pedrito (09/29/14 03:57 PM)
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