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Psilicon
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Need volunteers for a study on MS variance
#20624851 - 09/27/14 09:07 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey, guys. I'm interested in working on a write-up for how to design a successful experiment, and the first question I really want to answer before I do that is whether you can do an experiment with MS grows. Since experiments are all about establishing that there are two different populations, and that therefore the variable in question has had an effect (see my casing experiment, before it descended into madness), experiments with a MS grow can probably be done. You just need a large enough sample size and a large enough effect to overcome the natural variance within the population.
The reason I'm telling you this is because I need your data. I want to measure variation between identical tubs that have been treated identically, either from clones or from multispore. Participation is easy--all I want is the wet weight in grams from each tub before you pop them into the dehydrator. If you don't want to put the data up here in the comments below, feel free to PM me. I'll mark your numbers down (sans your name, which I don't care about) and delete the PM.
With this information I can actually measure the variance in Psilocybe cubensis without having to figure out what to do with a hundred tubs of cubes. Thanks to anyone with data or feedback to share, although I ask that any feedback on this be posted not below but in the "Experiments" thread in my journal.
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PsyDragon
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Re: Need volunteers for a study on MS variance [Re: Psilicon]
#20624859 - 09/27/14 09:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Crowdsourced science.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Need volunteers for a study on MS variance [Re: PsyDragon]
#20624921 - 09/27/14 09:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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and another variable to add, how sincere and accurate are the data given to you.
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tripdawg420
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Re: Need volunteers for a study on MS variance [Re: bodhisatta]
#20625032 - 09/27/14 10:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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ZEPH
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Re: Need volunteers for a study on MS variance [Re: bodhisatta]
#20625215 - 09/27/14 10:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: and another variable to add, how sincere and accurate are the data given to you.
most of us here take the sience behind growing fungus prety seriouse... but sure im sure a few duchbags will lie...but my next grow ill throw ya sum numbers van! woulda did wet weight this last grow but was such a pain in the ass i just kept track of dry weights
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ant707
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Re: Need volunteers for a study on MS variance [Re: ZEPH]
#20625307 - 09/27/14 11:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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im still in the process of my first grow but ill shoot you some numbers.
are you only looking for MS info?
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Ghatti
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Re: Need volunteers for a study on MS variance [Re: ant707]
#20625463 - 09/27/14 11:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm willing to test and record potency for everyone. Gotta take one for the team.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Need volunteers for a study on MS variance [Re: Ghatti]
#20625753 - 09/27/14 12:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ya don't want my ms data but I will be more than happy to run a few side by side clones for you down the road
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Psilicon
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Re: Need volunteers for a study on MS variance [Re: Psilicon]
#20627068 - 09/27/14 05:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks, guys.
All I want are the wet weights of simultaneous and identical tubs, and whether they're MS or clones. Dry weights might work, too--just tell me they're dry. The reason I chose wet weight is because personally I find it more of a pain in the ass trying to keep all the tubs separate in the dehydrator, so for my cased vs. uncased experiment I found it easiest to just weigh up front and then throw them in the dehydrator however.
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13shrooms
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Re: Need volunteers for a study on MS variance [Re: Psilicon]
#20627485 - 09/27/14 07:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sockadin



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Re: Need volunteers for a study on MS variance [Re: 13shrooms]
#20627626 - 09/27/14 07:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok iM game. 6 Trays of TMF were recently spawned. 3 were cased, and 3 were not. The 3 that were not produced about 3 grams each dry. The 3 that were cased produced 3 grams also, but had less fruits. They were more dense and much larger. Im only counting first flush here. These were all from the same MS Agar plate, so they shared the same genetics, but I was to lazy to clean them up.
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MudaFuka
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Re: Need volunteers for a study on MS variance [Re: Sockadin]
#20627794 - 09/27/14 08:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just harvested the first flush from 6 identical grain/sub jars I can give you their wet weights if you want. I also have 18 identical grain /sub jars from the same clone colonising right now. Let me know if that will help you or if you are just interested in tubs. In the past when I made tubs I usually made them in sets of at least 3 identical tubs and I kept records of most of them If you don't mind old data.
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Psilicon
Really Nice Guy


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Re: Need volunteers for a study on MS variance [Re: MudaFuka]
#20628598 - 09/27/14 11:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I want all data. That is, all data that is more precise than "about 3 grams." Sorry, Sockadin.
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Quexl


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Re: Need volunteers for a study on MS variance [Re: Psilicon]
#20628693 - 09/28/14 12:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just sent mine, enjoy
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djmako7
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Re: Need volunteers for a study on MS variance [Re: Quexl]
#20628719 - 09/28/14 12:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Will send my conclusion in 2 months. That is if you want it by then.
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Psilicon
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Re: Need volunteers for a study on MS variance [Re: djmako7]
#20628741 - 09/28/14 12:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I very likely will.
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