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    #20618740 - 09/25/14 06:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: isolations [Re: civility]
    #20618748 - 09/25/14 06:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

3 hours of light a day.. geese

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Re: isolations [Re: civility]
    #20618778 - 09/25/14 06:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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are bigger fruit bodies associated with optimal environment conditions or isolated strain.



Both, you may have an enormous cube cloned but if you don't give the offspring  the love they need they are gonna be shitty little shrooms.

Edit: 3hrs a day light??? Really???? give em 12


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Re: isolations [Re: Dekozn]
    #20619068 - 09/25/14 07:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i wouldn't ask for huge fruits, better fruits are the smaller ones but even isolates can perform like that where you get small first flush fruits and larger in later flushes due to less fruits /more water per fruit and such


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Re: isolations [Re: cronicr]
    #20619082 - 09/25/14 07:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

yup, currently I've got an isolate that produces what I like to call my "private reserve", big thick meaty, when cased with straight verm;
when cased with 50/50 verm/coir, it produces smaller fruits, same great taste & quality :grin: but better for drying, what I like to call my "winter stock"

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Re: isolations [Re: MonkeyJesusFresco]
    #20619116 - 09/25/14 07:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

To what do you spawn?? And really bigger with straight coir? i would think coir/verm would give bigger fruits because verm holds more water. More water bigger fruits was my way of thinking.


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Re: isolations [Re: Dekozn]
    #20619142 - 09/25/14 08:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

nah, it says: "when cased with staight verm"; I'm pretty sure what's going on, the verm is limiting the pinset, so the few that do pop up are freak'n massive (and beautiful); the 50/50 is impressive numbers but not really size; by my calculations, a 70/30 verm/coir casing will bring me the flush i desire, and that just so happens to be the mixture that is recommended :grin:

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Re: isolations [Re: MonkeyJesusFresco]
    #20619222 - 09/25/14 08:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Whoops my bad. Thx for explaining.
So you spawn to 50/50 and case with 70/30, am I right? That would explain my tiny meaty shrooms, I cased with 50/50. They look so cute though.
Edit: sorry for the hijacking Civility, just tell me to fuck of if it's bothering you.


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Re: isolations [Re: Dekozn]
    #20619255 - 09/25/14 08:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

nah, I spawn to a mix of coir/verm/straw/gypsum; I typically case with straight verm, but that's for a handful of BIG MEATY frutibodies that are my pride & joy, my babies :wink:

lately I've been casing with "50/50, coir/verm" and that get's me numbers, they're smaller but dry easier

next up, casing with 70/30, that's what is recommended and I think that will yield a proper balance of numbers and size

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Re: isolations [Re: MonkeyJesusFresco]
    #20619301 - 09/25/14 08:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I might try coir/verm/straw/gypsum next time. I'll us the search button for ratios cause we're getting way offtopic here...


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Re: isolations [Re: MonkeyJesusFresco]
    #20619317 - 09/25/14 08:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

More light will give you bigger caps.
Size is sometimes flush dependent.  Whereas the first flush may produce a ton of small fruits a later flush (say 4th or 5th) will produce a few giants.
This may be genetics or it may be a result of less food/water in later flushes.

The standard ratio for CVG is 80/20 CV plus say a cup of G.  Straw is less commonly used for cubes.

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Re: isolations [Re: StygianKnight]
    #20619566 - 09/25/14 09:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i concur that first flush; smaller fruit bodies. i've gotten big fruits from the 4th or 5th flush and that is what my isolate is from.

there's this magical man infamously known in town bringing very large fruits. 1 fruit 4 gram dry on the regular. . . great white monsters?? that's what is being said....

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Re: isolations [Re: civility]
    #20619600 - 09/25/14 09:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So you clone from your last flushes??? I always thought it would be better to clone the first ones that start popping up, that way you would get fast fruiters. But you like your results apparently, are these clones fruiting slower you reckon or you don't see any difference?


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Re: isolations [Re: Dekozn]
    #20619616 - 09/25/14 09:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i don't see a difference. a fruit is a fruit is a fruit kind of thing.
i cloned the last flushes because those were some big fuckers. have you ever had a pile of wet mushrooms and they just start growing on each other?

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Re: isolations [Re: civility]
    #20619627 - 09/25/14 09:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

back to this other guy who is not me (seriously), he/she has the biggest fruits, ever. you have to break them in half to get a reasonable dose. they look ornamental and perfectly taken care of. i wonder how it's done.. might be the strain, might be the environment, not sure. there should be a thread where everyone puts in dry weight or wet weight of there particular strain. let's get some quantitative analysis!

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Re: isolations [Re: civility]
    #20619652 - 09/25/14 09:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Sadly the analysis would be useless.
There are so many different genetics in each syringe that strain analysis is pretty pointless.

It sounds like the famous shrooms were isolated and he has a pretty repeatable setup.

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Re: isolations [Re: civility]
    #20619658 - 09/25/14 09:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I hear straw puts out big ass fruits. I never had any luck with straw, triched out before fruiting so it's just hear say....


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Re: isolations [Re: Dekozn]
    #20619670 - 09/25/14 09:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Also maybe outdoor cultivation????


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