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Re: the importance of gas exchange, or why tub-in-tub incubators suck. [Re: RedCube]
    #12737408 - 06/13/10 04:50 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

man just trying to help please put a piece of micropore tape over the inoculation holes.


  If you don't and just count on that layer of verm you will most likely wind up with a contaminant.

micropore tape will allow the gas exchange you desire but make sure it says micropore on the package and on the inside of the roll.

dude trust me covering those holes is very necessary


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Re: the importance of gas exchange, or why tub-in-tub incubators suck. [Re: nonlinear]
    #15942740 - 03/13/12 04:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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nonlinear said:
small space heaters are WAY cheaper than a good aquarium heater.

i paid $25 for my space heater at wal-mart about 7 years ago.  it still works great. 

a good aquarium heater like this fluval will run you about $80.  of course you could get a cheap bastard, but your water temps won't be as stable and you may risk a malfunction and overheat your water and kill your myc.  that's what the fluval package says anyhow



you said something about overheating and killing my myc. I just got my jars above 90 degrees for about 20 minutes and realized they were too hot so I put them in a cooler room to drop the temperature quick back to around 80 degrees. do you think I destroyed my project?

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Re: the importance of gas exchange, or why tub-in-tub incubators suck. [Re: nonlinear]
    #20615490 - 09/25/14 05:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not sure wht to do.. I don't kno if I should build an incubator or just stick the grain spawn into a closet... someone please help!


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Re: the importance of gas exchange, or why tub-in-tub incubators suck. [Re: nonlinear]
    #20615502 - 09/25/14 06:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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nonlinear said:
argh....

i still don't understand how or why people confuse gas exchange and 'fresh air exchange.'  they are the SAME thing, although gas exchange is the more appropriate and general scientific term.  'fresh air exchange' is an imprecise layman's term that really doesn't mean anything.

seriously people...




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Re: the importance of gas exchange, or why tub-in-tub incubators suck. [Re: FilthyShroomz]
    #20615517 - 09/25/14 06:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Do I really need to build an incubator?


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Re: the importance of gas exchange, or why tub-in-tub incubators suck. [Re: FilthyShroomz]
    #20615523 - 09/25/14 06:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

No, you dont need one. Room temp is absolutely fine.

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*Normal room temperature is the way to colonize jars. People who build incubators have a higher rate of contamination and other problems and those who succeed only have a minor decrease in colonization times. 75F to 80F is perfect for colonizing, and you should be able to find a nice place in your house that has that temperature, such as a top cupboard shelf in your kitchen or an upper bookshelf in the den. Colonizing jars need gas exchange that they don't get in a sealed tub. INCUBATING/COLONIZATION




From RR's notes on cultivation

Edited by pawnzy (09/25/14 06:20 AM)

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Re: the importance of gas exchange, or why tub-in-tub incubators suck. [Re: FilthyShroomz]
    #20615593 - 09/25/14 06:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

What is your room temperature? anywhere between 70F to 80F is fine.

Some even colonize at 65F. The colder temperature is slower, but it works. I wouldn't worry about an incubator if my temperature was 70F or above for most of the time.


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Re: the importance of gas exchange, or why tub-in-tub incubators suck. [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #20615741 - 09/25/14 07:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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SpitballJedi said:
What is your room temperature? anywhere between 70F to 80F is fine.

Some even colonize at 65F. The colder temperature is slower, but it works. I wouldn't worry about an incubator if my temperature was 70F or above for most of the time.




They colonize slower at lower temperatures, I had SA's between 60-65 and sometimes dropping to 55 during the night. The optimum range is 70-80 but growth will always occur at lower temperatures, its just the time frame that the cultivator wants them to finish in....

Also note, fully colonized substrates that are fruited in cooler temperatures may take longer but they produce denser mushrooms than substrates fruited at higher temperatures.


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Re: the importance of gas exchange, or why tub-in-tub incubators suck. [Re: HybridprX]
    #20616293 - 09/25/14 10:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Do you guys think rye grains to spawn is better or wbs?


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Re: the importance of gas exchange, or why tub-in-tub incubators suck. [Re: FilthyShroomz]
    #20616314 - 09/25/14 10:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Its been established that W.B.S has a higher ratio 1 jar of wbs can spawn to 4 (equal size) jars of bulk.

where Rye preforms better at a 1:2 ratio 1spawn 2bulk.

Im sure others will tell you that im giving you bad information op, you will have to make a search on the forums to find out what ratios have been used for the past 5years....

but everyone I know uses 1:2 for rye and 1:4 WBS


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Re: the importance of gas exchange, or why tub-in-tub incubators suck. [Re: HybridprX]
    #20616385 - 09/25/14 10:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:oldthread:

op hasnt been around in over a year.

grains are grains, choose the grains that you get the cheapest which are small. aka simply dont use corn!

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Re: the importance of gas exchange, or why tub-in-tub incubators suck. [Re: HybridprX]
    #20619611 - 09/25/14 09:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)


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