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LiquidGlass
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Mushrooms are not people
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Cells are built out of chitin, a modified glucose polymer. Glucose can be obtained by breaking down either cellulose or starch.
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cronicr



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LiquidGlass said: Mushrooms are not people
 (don't ya hate it when you become the first post on a new page and your post makes zero sense after)
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PrimalSoup
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insanemike said: Is the cultures ability to breakdown food and to convert it into digestive and immunity enzymes related to carbs? I was under the impression that carbs are for energy, protein is for building cells and fats are for releasing hormones in which control these processes.
Mushrooms are not people.
There ya go.
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cronicr



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insanemike

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I know mushrooms aren't people, thanks for stating the obvious. I want to discover how and why these internal processes for mycelium work and how genetics and NUTRITION play a role. Telling me that nutrition doesn't matter, is like telling me you can grow mushrooms with vermiculite. As long as it can digest it, it must be food. I refuse to accept that answer. I feel no need to respond to anymore statements made toward me on this thread. I know I'm no expert but it does not keep me from experimenting and drawing my own conclusions. Good day!
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LiquidGlass
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insanemike said: I know mushrooms aren't people, thanks for stating the obvious. I want to discover how and why these internal processes for mycelium work and how genetics and NUTRITION play a role. Telling me that nutrition doesn't matter, is like telling me you can grow mushrooms with vermiculite. As long as it can digest it, it must be food. I refuse to accept that answer. I feel no need to respond to anymore statements made toward me on this thread. I know I'm no expert but it does not keep me from experimenting and drawing my own conclusions. Good day!
If you don't want to respond to statements made toward you then you should probably not make so many posts that will most likely evoke a response.
Anyway, it sounds like you should go school and major in mycology. You will definitely find your answers by taking that route but, seriously why does it matter. Why do mushrooms like verm and coir and poop? I don't know but, I know how to get them all to work good together and that is what really matters to me anyway.
How does your cell phone work and do all the functions it does? How does plastic and metal make 1's and 0's able to call another person or take a pic? I dont know that either but I know how to use it and make it do what I want to do.
Why are boobs good? Why is a tree good? Why is a sunset good? Why is coir good? - Joe Dirt
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LiquidGlass
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cronicr said:
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LiquidGlass said: Mushrooms are not people
 (don't ya hate it when you become the first post on a new page and your post makes zero sense after)
hahaha yep
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PrimalSoup
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insanemike said: I know mushrooms aren't people, thanks for stating the obvious. I want to discover how and why these internal processes for mycelium work and how genetics and NUTRITION play a role. Telling me that nutrition doesn't matter, is like telling me you can grow mushrooms with vermiculite. As long as it can digest it, it must be food. I refuse to accept that answer. I feel no need to respond to anymore statements made toward me on this thread. I know I'm no expert but it does not keep me from experimenting and drawing my own conclusions. Good day!
Just because you can ASK a question that the answer isn't known too doesn't mean you UNDERSTAND the questions to which the answer IS known to. It pisses me off in fields in which I actually AM an expert as well. 
Study more, 'cause without at least a rudimentary understanding of some of that (including the basic fact that you keep missing which is that fungi are neither plants NOR animals) you're falling into chasms of misunderstanding that are blinding you to the way things work with them, whether or not every last detail of that way of working has been deciphered. Big hint - "enzymes". Understand that in fungi and you'll unlock a whole lot of digestive and adaptive mysteries.
Nobody here is out to get you personally SFAIK. Everybody puts their foot in their mouth sometimes.
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insanemike

Registered: 02/23/14
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PrimalSoup said:
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insanemike said: I know mushrooms aren't people, thanks for stating the obvious. I want to discover how and why these internal processes for mycelium work and how genetics and NUTRITION play a role. Telling me that nutrition doesn't matter, is like telling me you can grow mushrooms with vermiculite. As long as it can digest it, it must be food. I refuse to accept that answer. I feel no need to respond to anymore statements made toward me on this thread. I know I'm no expert but it does not keep me from experimenting and drawing my own conclusions. Good day!
Just because you can ASK a question that the answer isn't known too doesn't mean you UNDERSTAND the questions to which the answer IS known to. It pisses me off in fields in which I actually AM an expert as well. 
Study more, 'cause without at least a rudimentary understanding of some of that (including the basic fact that you keep missing which is that fungi are neither plants NOR animals) you're falling into chasms of misunderstanding that are blinding you to the way things work with them, whether or not every last detail of that way of working has been deciphered. Big hint - "enzymes". Understand that in fungi and you'll unlock a whole lot of digestive and adaptive mysteries.
Nobody here is out to get you personally SFAIK. Everybody puts their foot in their mouth sometimes.
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I can live with that. Even if all these crazy hypothesis and experimentations get me nowhere, I can still look back and remember all the fun I had pretending to be a scientist. Isn't it suppose to be fun? If all you do is follow the "Sheppard" and never go off the beaten path, what fun is that? If I felt like there was ever a chance that there wouldn't be anything new to try, learn or experience, I would have given up on this hobby a long time ago. If there is a means to an end, I want nothing to do with it. "Life's a journey, not a destination"(Steven Tyler)
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PrimalSoup
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Science? Fun? Nah, science is just hard work, sometimes punctuated by rare moments of extreme "AHA!" that kind of make it all worthwhile. Most many ideas are dead ends. Add in the downside that in many fields only a few other people in the world either know what you're talking about or give a shit, and it's really something only the hardcore can love. But there's nothing else quite like it. 
I do experiments with mushrooms. Take a look at this ongoing thing for instance - the Potency Project - I'd love to have more people trying it out. Easy if you do good cult, rewarding if you have the time.
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Edited by PrimalSoup (09/24/14 10:32 AM)
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pawnzy
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PrimalSoup said: Science? Fun? Nah, science is just a fucking lot of hard work, sometimes punctuated by rare moments of extreme "AHA!" that kind of make it all worthwhile. Most ideas are dead ends. Add in the downside that in many fields only a few other people in the world either know what you're talking about or give a shit, and it's really something only the hardcore can love. 
I do experiments with mushrooms. Take a look at this ongoing thing for instance - the Potency Project - I'd love to have more people trying it out. Easy if you do good cult, rewarding if you have the time.
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If science and mycology arentt fun your doing it wrong.
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PrimalSoup
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Re: nutes [Re: pawnzy]
#20610901 - 09/24/14 11:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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pawnzy
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Haha facepalm all you want.. If you dont find enjoyment in learning then whats the point?
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PrimalSoup
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Re: nutes [Re: pawnzy]
#20611092 - 09/24/14 11:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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There is no point, just different understandings.
But if by "mycology" you meant growing mushrooms I totally agree.
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Edited by PrimalSoup (09/24/14 03:05 PM)
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