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Suitable Bulk Substrate?
    #20601520 - 09/22/14 02:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yesterday I was perusing my local hardware store looking for manure to use as a bulk substrate for some nice mushies :smile:. All I could find was this compost and steer manure blend: Link

Is this suitable for a bulk substrate or should I maybe look into something else like coir?

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Re: Suitable Bulk Substrate? [Re: FastestBurrito]
    #20601654 - 09/22/14 03:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Coir is easier and pretty much foolproof. Manure will need proper pasteurization and will not be as forgiving as coir. As for steer manure you will probably want to mix it with coir anyway (or straw) and verm due to its muddy texture. Coir will help get that nice fluffy texture that helps with colonization.

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Re: Suitable Bulk Substrate? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #20603555 - 09/22/14 09:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Alright, sounds good. I'll just be safe and use coir as my bulk growth experience is limited.

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Re: Suitable Bulk Substrate? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #20603565 - 09/22/14 09:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Coir is easier and pretty much foolproof. Manure will need proper pasteurization and will not be as forgiving as coir. As for steer manure you will probably want to mix it with coir anyway (or straw) and verm due to its muddy texture. Coir will help get that nice fluffy texture that helps with colonization.



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Re: Suitable Bulk Substrate? [Re: azur]
    #20603694 - 09/22/14 09:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I just used cow manure for the first time. I really wish I had not been out of coir because that shit got muddy as hell.


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Re: Suitable Bulk Substrate? [Re: MudaFuka]
    #20604052 - 09/22/14 10:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I use this from lowes. it's only about 20 percent of my sub but it works wonders. when I grow envys's every one of them has a poo pellet in the base of the stem. I used to break up the pellet's, these days I just mix them in with my bulk straw mix. If you use poo and your sub seems muddy it's too wet. poo is tougher to master but worth it in the long run. good luck




but oh yes, coir is in my mix to.


oh yeah.  the poo is 3 bucks for 40 pounds so you can guess why I stopped gathering horse poo.


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Re: Suitable Bulk Substrate? [Re: God Stamet]
    #20604088 - 09/22/14 10:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I never had a problem with hors poo just this cow shit and I really don't think it was too wet. It's just so sticky compared to nice fluffy coir.


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Re: Suitable Bulk Substrate? [Re: MudaFuka]
    #20604126 - 09/22/14 10:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yo muda, check out sarahs journal. She, cron, and i had a discussion on poo earlier. I posted an interesting link. I'll try to qoute myself. ...
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Hpoo is better than cpoo



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Well that's a reason. And a damn good one. Hpoo also has straw/hay fibers the cpoo doesn't. Dairy cpoo is probably better than hpoo. But chances are sarah is using beef cpoo. Beef cattle don't get all the awesome feed dairy cows get.
Here's an elementary, but interesting article on poo
http://www.plantea.com/manure.htm



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yep, steers on grassland…  but doesn't beef usually gets stuffed with grain at end of life for the marbling effect on the meat?



Maybe so, but dairy cows get stuffed with grain their whole lives. My opinion is dairy cpoo #1. Hpoo or straw #2. Coir #3. Cpoo#4
Remember, i grew up on a dairy farm with horses and a few beef cattle. I know poo




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Re: Suitable Bulk Substrate? [Re: azur]
    #20604146 - 09/22/14 10:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That all makes a lot of sense. I'm actually pretty happy with supplemented coir. I generally just use manure for my pans.


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Re: Suitable Bulk Substrate? [Re: MudaFuka]
    #20604173 - 09/22/14 10:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yes. Cron and i agree any cpoo is fantastic for pans.


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Re: Suitable Bulk Substrate? [Re: azur]
    #20604286 - 09/22/14 11:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

also agreed that using some of everything kicks ass too:crazy:


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Re: Suitable Bulk Substrate? [Re: cronicr]
    #20604295 - 09/22/14 11:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm really liking dog food right now.


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Re: Suitable Bulk Substrate? [Re: MudaFuka]
    #20604307 - 09/22/14 11:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm really liking dog food right now.




Might have to try that, I have plenty of dogfood. Just grind it up?


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Re: Suitable Bulk Substrate? [Re: mushmagic]
    #20604326 - 09/22/14 11:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

yup. I haven't had any fruits of it yet but the subs I added it to have colonised so thick and fast. Just don't use to much or things can get a bit to sticky. I have been using it for about 15 to 20% of my substrate.


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Re: Suitable Bulk Substrate? [Re: MudaFuka]
    #20604338 - 09/22/14 11:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm really liking dog food right now.



i'll stick to my cheeseburgers:crazy:


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Re: Suitable Bulk Substrate? [Re: cronicr]
    #20604349 - 09/22/14 11:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Do you sterilise or pasteurise those.


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Re: Suitable Bulk Substrate? [Re: MudaFuka]
    #20604350 - 09/22/14 11:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Word thanks bro:super: I'll definitely be interested to see how it works myself.


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Re: Suitable Bulk Substrate? [Re: MudaFuka]
    #20604354 - 09/22/14 11:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Do you sterilise or pasteurise those.



i microwave them


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Re: Suitable Bulk Substrate? [Re: cronicr]
    #20604361 - 09/22/14 11:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: Suitable Bulk Substrate? [Re: cronicr]
    #20604410 - 09/22/14 11:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Do you sterilise or pasteurise those.



i microwave them




lol. still got that sense of humar huh bubs? and it's been a long time, congrats on your TC tag you ol' Canadian fucker!!


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