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UNDERdecoded
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Oven Tek inoculation for PF Tek Question
#20590997 - 09/19/14 11:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I recently inoculated some jars using the oven tek because it was recommended by the website I received the jars from now I am second guessing myself. I believe I took the proper cleanliness procedures by spraying my kitchen down with lysol as well as the air with neutra air, I also sprayed lysol in my oven before beginning the tek. I also flame sterilized with the stove top because I did not have a lighter. This is my first attempt at growing is there anything I did wrong I will post a picture once the mycelium begins growing. I also took of the tin foil covering the inoculation holes is that ok? I read a few places that the jars needed to breath and that the 1/2 in to 1 inch of verm would keep contams out. All answers are appreciated I just want to know what my success rate will be the website said they had a 99% success rate with this tek that I followed. I inoculated 6 jars.
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Re: Oven Tek inoculation for PF Tek Question [Re: UNDERdecoded]
#20591017 - 09/19/14 11:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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For future reference, u need a still air box for inoculation, oven tek has been proven to be bs yrs ago. Whatever website sold u that kit told u bad advice which is pretty common. There is a list of sponsors here that are legit, use them.
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Re: Oven Tek inoculation for PF Tek Question [Re: Mike1230]
#20591024 - 09/19/14 11:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Funny thing is I did use a sponsor. I used I dont know if I can link but thats part of the name and I found them on here... I hope for the best I clean my kitchen spotless weekly so I hope I didnt ruin my success rate by following the tek they provided...
Edited by cronicr (09/19/14 11:46 PM)
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Re: Oven Tek inoculation for PF Tek Question [Re: Mike1230]
#20591026 - 09/19/14 11:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mike1230 said: There is a list of sponsors that are legit, use them.
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UNDERdecoded
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Re: Oven Tek inoculation for PF Tek Question [Re: UNDERdecoded]
#20591033 - 09/19/14 11:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nevermind i just checked and I guess it wasnt i could have swore I only bought from trusted vendors that confuses the hell out of me...
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Re: Oven Tek inoculation for PF Tek Question [Re: Space]
#20591038 - 09/19/14 11:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Don't drop names dude, and your PF grow should never be anywhere near the oven, unless you're steaming jars on your range (which is on top of the oven).
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Re: Oven Tek inoculation for PF Tek Question [Re: NumeroEno]
#20591049 - 09/19/14 11:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well shit... I dont know what to do now.. Should I just wait and see how they turn out your kinda making me feel like the jars are pretty much guaranteed contaminated..
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Re: Oven Tek inoculation for PF Tek Question [Re: UNDERdecoded]
#20591066 - 09/19/14 11:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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don't mention vendors names here in mush cult
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Re: Oven Tek inoculation for PF Tek Question [Re: UNDERdecoded]
#20591070 - 09/19/14 11:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wouldn't say guaranteed contaminated but def is not a good start.
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Re: Oven Tek inoculation for PF Tek Question [Re: cronicr]
#20591072 - 09/19/14 11:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You said that... I already changed it.
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Re: Oven Tek inoculation for PF Tek Question [Re: Mike1230]
#20591076 - 09/19/14 11:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm hoping for the best I'll post a new thread once they show signs of mycelium growth with pictures. Peace
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Re: Oven Tek inoculation for PF Tek Question [Re: UNDERdecoded]
#20591093 - 09/19/14 11:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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what I don't understand is why anyone who goes through all the trouble of cleaning out an oven won't drop 10 bucks to make a SAB
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Re: Oven Tek inoculation for PF Tek Question [Re: NumeroEno]
#20591103 - 09/19/14 11:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Because of the fact I had spent over 100 already and did not feel like wrecking my SGFC tote I already purchased. It just seemed tedious to have to buy another tote after I was provided with false information that made me feel like it would work without one. I mean its not that hard to sterilize an oven.
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Re: Oven Tek inoculation for PF Tek Question [Re: UNDERdecoded]
#20591113 - 09/20/14 12:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fair enough man, but a big part of this hobby is learning from your mistakes. Making a SAB will be the best thing you ever do as far as mushcult goes. You can do g2g, agar, and have a guaranteed sterile environment for all your mycological endeavors to come. Trust me it's worth it
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Let it grow! Let it grow! Greatly yield!
What shall we say, shall we call it by a name
As well to count the angels dancing on a pin
Water bright as the sky from which it came
And the name is on the earth that takes it in
DOG FOOD AGAR
MY ELECTRIC INOCULATION LOOP
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Re: Oven Tek inoculation for PF Tek Question [Re: NumeroEno]
#20591127 - 09/20/14 12:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yea I think I tried to be a little to simple during this first grow but I am still reading and I am seeing that some people have amazing success with this tek provided they sterilize the work area and the air in the room as I did. I also tried to keep my instruments clean while inoculating and a few people said that is the biggest factor.
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Re: Oven Tek inoculation for PF Tek Question [Re: UNDERdecoded]
#20591142 - 09/20/14 12:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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start a growlog, these good dudes here will make sure your okay
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Re: Oven Tek inoculation for PF Tek Question [Re: NumeroEno]
#20591143 - 09/20/14 12:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is the first time i ever heard an oven could be used to knock up jars... Ya man go with the tote sab... Youll never regret it.
Sterile techniques is golden but, to me, its the still air environment that really nails it.
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Re: Oven Tek inoculation for PF Tek Question [Re: UNDERdecoded]
#20591157 - 09/20/14 12:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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There are a lot of environmental wild cards at play if you try to turn your oven into a makeshift SAB. I'm not saying it can't be done, but I made my SAB from a 6 dollar tote. The thing about using your oven is that it's open to drafts and shit. If you try it and it works then that's awesome, but that big open oven door is inviting a lot of undesirable shit in to play. FWIW I've done a few successful grows with no SAB. With PF it's more about making good lids and sterilizing your needle. You only really need a SAB if you're fucking with agar or g2g. You're safe to inoculate PF jars and grain in open air as long as your syringe is clean and you take some precautions against airborne contams getting on your needle.
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Let it grow! Let it grow! Greatly yield!
What shall we say, shall we call it by a name
As well to count the angels dancing on a pin
Water bright as the sky from which it came
And the name is on the earth that takes it in
DOG FOOD AGAR
MY ELECTRIC INOCULATION LOOP
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Re: Oven Tek inoculation for PF Tek Question [Re: NumeroEno]
#20591239 - 09/20/14 12:40 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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These were pf jars also they had 4 small holes per jar and i put the foil right back on i think it may have worked well. I'm pretty sure lysol does work because it even says on the back it kills 99.9 of all bacteria, fungi, and viruses plus i was very thurough with it but idk it is only my first grow i will be sure to buy a SAB for next time. Im starting to think i should have just done them on the counter...
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Re: Oven Tek inoculation for PF Tek Question [Re: UNDERdecoded]
#20591299 - 09/20/14 12:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ya, between inside an oven and a counter, id choose the latter... Best of luck sir.
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Re: Oven Tek inoculation for PF Tek Question [Re: UNDERdecoded]
#20591410 - 09/20/14 01:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Get rid of the Lysol, make a SAB, and clean it out by spraying it with soapy bleach water. Here's my SAB. It's simple.
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Let it grow! Let it grow! Greatly yield!
What shall we say, shall we call it by a name
As well to count the angels dancing on a pin
Water bright as the sky from which it came
And the name is on the earth that takes it in
DOG FOOD AGAR
MY ELECTRIC INOCULATION LOOP
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Re: Oven Tek inoculation for PF Tek Question [Re: UNDERdecoded]
#20591414 - 09/20/14 01:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The vendor most likely pc's then before shipping them to people. I'm pretty sure the oven bullshit was just to kill any potential contams that may have ended up on or around the jars during the shipment process. Just try not to worry. You win some & you lose some. The only way to alleviate your anxiety is to educate yourself in proper procedures from reputable sources. Be sterile & follow teks exactly as written... There are a lot of good people here on the Shroomery, but once in a while you will be patronized or spoken to as if you were an idiot (some people are just assholes). Ignore anyone who gives you wise assed answers, someone will help you. Good luck on your first grow!
Edited by Blu (09/30/14 09:17 PM)
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Re: Oven Tek inoculation for PF Tek Question [Re: NumeroEno]
#20592011 - 09/20/14 09:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'll make sure to do that next time! I thought of it but the time to inoculate the jars just came out of nowhere. I have someone staying with me that is ignorant to psychedelics and has sabotaged my plans before.
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