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Need help with my monothb!!
    #20588481 - 09/19/14 01:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



Here's what I'm using for my monotub. I'm pretty sure I'm going to have cut the lid and put something clear over it so the light shines down overtop . But my question is how high on the side should I drill my six holes and what size should the holes be??? 1" diameter???

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: motoguy]
    #20588528 - 09/19/14 01:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You don't need to cut the top. It matters how high you want your sub. The four bottom holes should be about a half to an inch over the sub, the top holes should be as high as you can get them. Two inch bottom holes and one and a half inch top holes. Check out Frank's how to dial in a monotub like a boss.


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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: motoguy]
    #20588531 - 09/19/14 01:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

dude.. remember when cron said something about you having a million threads in the last 50 some days? this question is answered over and over and over again in every monotub tek. use the search engine..and i never tell people to UTSE but in this case...use it. and dont feel the need to start a new thread over every question you have.

start a grow log for what your doing and people will come and check it out and you can ask questions there since they all pertain to the project your working on.

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: motoguy]
    #20588550 - 09/19/14 01:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You will need to drill 6 holes in the very bottom

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: Mdahmer]
    #20588556 - 09/19/14 01:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

My bad I'll post it in my grow log. Well I'm using 5 quart jars And 3 quarts of pasteurized coir and verm. I'm not sure how high the substrate will be. How do I figure that out???

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    #20588572 - 09/19/14 01:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: Sanguin3]
    #20588588 - 09/19/14 01:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

yea for 5 qt of spawn youll want anywhere from 10-20qt of coir/verm. unless your planning on casing 5 qts of grain with 3 qt coir/verm casing in which case i would advise against that in a monotub fashion

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: Mdahmer]
    #20588640 - 09/19/14 01:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well I made a post yesterday and was told to use 2.5 pints of verm and coir each for my 5quarts

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: motoguy]
    #20588660 - 09/19/14 01:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

for spawning to bulk use a 1:2 to 1:4 ratio of grain spawn to bulk sub. you can certainly go lower or higher but lower grain = slower colonization and fewer nutrients. more will give you faster colonization and more nutes but with that ratio youll not have much water at all to support your fruits

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: Mdahmer]
    #20588683 - 09/19/14 01:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So what do I need to pasteurize more?? I just need to know what's going on cause I'm asking a question and I get 20 different answers. I've got 24 g2g jars colonizing as we speak and they will be done in 3-4 more days then I'm spawning them in monotubs as well. Now I need to figure it out how much coir.verm to use.

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: motoguy]
    #20588761 - 09/19/14 02:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

use at least 1qt of substrate for every quart of spawn. fill an empty quart jar
with water, pour into tub, and repeat till you hit 3 inches of depth. mark this
with a sharpie, then drill your holes with the bottom of the hole being around
.5-1" above this line. however many quarts of water you dumped into the tub, is
how many quarts of spawn/sub you will need to hit the 3" depth. you will
usually need to add an extra quart or two of sub since the spawn quarts aren't
filled to the brim of the jar.

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: Attainment]
    #20588803 - 09/19/14 02:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

and if your just using coir/verm you can do the bucket tek, the regular or mudas double bucket and its one "bucket recipe" for every monotub. so 1 brick coir (8qt about) and 2qt verm with 4-5qt of water and when thats done and cool spawn it with 5-6 qt of grain spawn.

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: Attainment]
    #20588826 - 09/19/14 02:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yea it makes absolute sense but I'm just getting so many different answers I'm confused. If that's the case then I'm going to have to pasteurize a few more quarts... ugh. Now are the jars I already pasteurized still good till the next few jars get done cooling??? The 3 quarts are completely filled almost to the top I pasteurized them last night. Also I used about 3 pints of coir and 3 of verm. I'm just confused as hell

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: motoguy]
    #20588858 - 09/19/14 02:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

thats just because there are so many different ways to grow and so many people answering questions, sometimes without thinking or reading thoroughly and when other skim it and retain that knowledge then pass it on as fact things start to get muddled.

im not an expert by any means but ive done some tubs and buckets and outdoor grows and ive read half my life away here so take my advice over any others :lol: seriously though..as far as ratios go 1:2-1:4 for starters. you can experiment with other ratios higher and lower but if you want the best results now so you have fruits to sustain while you experiment then just go with the classic 1 brick, 2qt verm per 5-6 qt of spawn in a 66qt (give or take 5-10qt) tub with holes drilled per frankhorrigan dialing in your monotub like a boss thread

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: Mdahmer]
    #20588893 - 09/19/14 02:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I know lol I really appreciate everyone's input but it's confusing as hell to me to hear so many different answers to one question. So here's what I did. I used 2.5 pints of coir it's eco earth from the pet store. Then i put 2.5 pints in of verm mixed it well in the bucket. Then added 2-3 pints of water. I really over did it and it was wet as hell so I added about 6 handfuls of moth coir and verm then did the squeeze test and a few drops came out. Then i used franks pasteurize tek and let them cool over night. Now I'm being told this is a good ratio of verm and coir but not enough for my monotub. What do you think???

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: motoguy]
    #20588998 - 09/19/14 03:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If you just read Sanguin's sig you won't be confused anymore.  Do you think a cook asks random people how to make a dish?  He'd never know exactly which ingredients are needed.. That's why they have written recipes and follow them mostly to the T, especially the first couple times.  You could also be asking questions in the AMU thread..  It's a thread specifically made for asking questions and getting an A+ :thumbup:

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: Dilated]
    #20589364 - 09/19/14 04:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Or you could just drill your holes where your ready to fruit :wink:

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    #20589474 - 09/19/14 05:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ok so obviously my 3 quarts of coir and verm isn't enough for my 5 quarts of spawn. Is the ratio I used ok??? I'll just make 7 more quarts of coco.verm mix. With the same ratio. How many more quarts of coir and verm should i use??? As well as water. See I read franks tek. I got all confused cause he said use a brick of coir but I bought the stuff in a bag and didn't know how much to use.

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    #20589476 - 09/19/14 05:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Or you could just drill your holes where your ready to fruit :wink:




Why would you want to do that though? So you can get plastic and bullshit in there? That makes no sense do it before hand.

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: King of Pain]
    #20589612 - 09/19/14 05:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

how do you measure pints of coir? is it the husk or the compressed bricks?

about 2-3 qt's verm for 1 brick of coir gives you a 80/20 coir/verm ratio which is good.
a std brick of coir weighs 650g dry and compressed.
4qt's water pr brick, 0,5 qt's water pr qt of verm.

drill bottom holes @ 4" height, top holes as high as you get.
follow my link on how to make the tubs, step 4 I think in my sig.

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Or you could just drill your holes where your ready to fruit :wink:




Why would you want to do that though? So you can get plastic and bullshit in there? That makes no sense do it before hand.




some noobs really like to "help" :tongue2:

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: spacechildo]
    #20589777 - 09/19/14 06:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

This is what it is. I used 2.5 pints of the coco and 2.5 of vermiculite.  Then i added like 2 pints of water. It was too wet so I added another 5-6 handfuls of verm and 5-6 of coir. Then did the squeeze test. It filled up 3 quart jars which I then pasteurized it and let it cool over night.

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    #20589810 - 09/19/14 06:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: Sanguin3]
    #20590381 - 09/19/14 09:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ok I'm getting totally lost. I got 3 quarts total 3 very very full quarts. I used about 1.5 quarts of coir and 1.5 quarts of verm give or take a handful. I also added about 1 qt of water. Is this ratio good??? And I know I need about 7 more quarts.

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: Sanguin3]
    #20590412 - 09/19/14 09:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ok so here's what I'm thinking.. I need 7 more quarts. So if 8 make the rest 80/20 I would want 5.5qts of coco and 1.5qts of verm roughly correct?? (

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: spacechildo]
    #20590422 - 09/19/14 09:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ok, first off I'm far from a noon. Just because I've just recently registered on here doesn't mean I'm new to the game. Ive always drilled my holes when I'm ready to fruit. Plastic does NOT get in the tub, your drilling from the outside in, all the plastic ends up on the surface of your working area. And why drill holes before hand just to tape them up for colonization? That's what makes no sense. And by drilling when your ready to fruit, your holes are at perfect level with the sub. You can't knock something and pretend to know what your talking about when you haven't done it...

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: spacechildo]
    #20590426 - 09/19/14 09:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

your thinking ratio for the coir to verm mixture and everyone else is saying ratio as in the grain spawn to bulk sub ratio i think.

for your bulk sub if its coir/verm do 80/20 (or 4:1) and when your mixing that bulk sub with your grains you want to use the 1:2 (grain:bulk) so 5qt grain spawn:10qt bulk sub or go as low in grain as 1:4. which would be 5qt grain and 20qt bulk

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    #20590434 - 09/19/14 09:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Ive always drilled my holes when I'm ready to fruit. Plastic does NOT get in the tub, your drilling from the outside in,






:lolwut:

Ok man you keep drilling your holes from the outside in.

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: Mdahmer]
    #20590446 - 09/19/14 09:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

OH HOLY HE'LL this was just a shit load of confusion lol I get it. Yea I meant how much verm and coir I want as a ratio then the ratio of coir and verm to spawn. Ok so I want 2:1 for substrate:spawn then I want 4:1 for the su strate. Now I got it. Everyone was just confused and flustered.

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    #20590450 - 09/19/14 09:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Ive always drilled my holes when I'm ready to fruit. Plastic does NOT get in the tub, your drilling from the outside in,






:lolwut:

Ok man you keep drilling your holes from the outside in.



Lol, how else do you drill your holes?

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #20590453 - 09/19/14 09:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So you drill when your ready to fruit. No big deal, no the best way to do things. If you know how many jars you have and the size of the tub, you can drill your holes before hand based on the amount of sub you plan on using.

Me personally I drill holes pre-bulk, but I leave the hole liner in tact and when I am ready to fruit I cut the liner out.

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    #20590466 - 09/19/14 09:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Ok, first off I'm far from a noon. Just because I've just recently registered on here doesn't mean I'm new to the game. Ive always drilled my holes when I'm ready to fruit. Plastic does NOT get in the tub, your drilling from the outside in, all the plastic ends up on the surface of your working area. And why drill holes before hand just to tape them up for colonization? That's what makes no sense. And by drilling when your ready to fruit, your holes are at perfect level with the sub. You can't knock something and pretend to know what your talking about when you haven't done it...




I haven't done it because i wouldn't that's foolish. Whats the big deal about taping holes?


Your holes can be at a perfect level already if you put the sub depth to the level you want it to be just below the holes.

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    #20590473 - 09/19/14 09:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Ive always drilled my holes when I'm ready to fruit. Plastic does NOT get in the tub, your drilling from the outside in,






:lolwut:

Ok man you keep drilling your holes from the outside in.



Lol, how else do you drill your holes?





I always drill my holes from the inside out so all the crumbs fall outside of the tub.

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    #20590483 - 09/19/14 09:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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OH HOLY HE'LL this was just a shit load of confusion lol I get it. Yea I meant how much verm and coir I want as a ratio then the ratio of coir and verm to spawn. Ok so I want 2:1 for substrate:spawn then I want 4:1 for the su strate. Now I got it. Everyone was just confused and flustered.




niiice you got it

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: King of Pain]
    #20590509 - 09/19/14 09:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Dude just... fucken... oh my god...

3 quarts of spawn will colonize a 3 inch sub in a 66 quart mono just fine.

3 quarts of spawn will also colonize a 3 inch sub in a 27 qt mono.

Stop worrying about your fucking ratios so much.

650 grams of coco coir + 2 quarts of verm + 4.5 - 5 quarts of water for a bucket tek. This is your bulk sub ratio.  You can colonize all of it with 3 quarts of spawn just fine.

You can use 3 quarts of spawn for a big mono or a little mono.  You can use 7 quarts of spawn for a little mono or a big mono.

Spawn to sub Ratios of 1:10 are not unheard of.

Whenever I have a new tub I like to spawn first and then drill the holes later. I get minimal plastic on the inside and it doesn't seem to affect anything.


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    #20590519 - 09/19/14 09:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Ok, first off I'm far from a noon. Just because I've just recently registered on here doesn't mean I'm new to the game. Ive always drilled my holes when I'm ready to fruit. Plastic does NOT get in the tub, your drilling from the outside in, all the plastic ends up on the surface of your working area. And why drill holes before hand just to tape them up for colonization? That's what makes no sense. And by drilling when your ready to fruit, your holes are at perfect level with the sub. You can't knock something and pretend to know what your talking about when you haven't done it...




well you only make the tub once, so your point is irrelevant.
you still need to figure out how to measure sub+spawn to hit the holes placement
for every time you use the same tub as a monotub :tongue2:

I dont care for reg dates I call you a noob based on the advice I see you're giving (IN MULTIPLE THREADS)!

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    #20590665 - 09/19/14 10:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Ok, first off I'm far from a noon. Just because I've just recently registered on here doesn't mean I'm new to the game. Ive always drilled my holes when I'm ready to fruit. Plastic does NOT get in the tub, your drilling from the outside in, all the plastic ends up on the surface of your working area. And why drill holes before hand just to tape them up for colonization? That's what makes no sense. And by drilling when your ready to fruit, your holes are at perfect level with the sub. You can't knock something and pretend to know what your talking about when you haven't done it...




well you only make the tub once, so your point is irrelevant.
you still need to figure out how to measure sub+spawn to hit the holes placement
for every time you use the same tub as a monotub :tongue2:

I dont care for reg dates I call you a noob based on the advice I see you're giving (IN MULTIPLE THREADS)!



18 zips in a week from 3 monos, ya... I have no clue what I'm talking about.

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #20590720 - 09/19/14 10:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:facepalm:

your advice still sucks :wink:



And I'd think about checking that scale if I were you..:rolleyes:
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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: spacechildo]
    #20590758 - 09/19/14 10:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

soon the list of whats on agar and whats colonizing and what exotic future grows are coming will badger you into shame childo...tread carefully

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    #20590778 - 09/19/14 10:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: Sanguin3]
    #20590855 - 09/19/14 10:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Pics or it didn't happen


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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: Mdahmer]
    #20590863 - 09/19/14 11:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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soon the list of whats on agar and whats colonizing and what exotic future grows are coming will badger you into shame childo...tread carefully




huh? I dont get what you mean? who's list?

edit; aaaah. soon as in in the next couple posts made?

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18 zips in a week from 3 monos, ya... I have no clue what I'm talking about.



Usually the people throwing out these comments have no idea what they're talkin about, just sayin





word. those who do know what's up usually lets pictures do the talking.

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: Dilated]
    #20590869 - 09/19/14 11:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

that pack is gangsta son. you could wear that with a white tux at the players ball no doubt. i like whats in it too..i guess


lol yea space, the 'credentials'

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: Mdahmer]
    #20590890 - 09/19/14 11:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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that pack is gangsta son. you could wear that with a white tux at the players ball no doubt. i like whats in it too..i guess


lol yea space, the 'credentials'




Can't go camping without goodies :awesomenod:

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: Dilated]
    #20591004 - 09/19/14 11:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)


From 2 monos

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #20591058 - 09/19/14 11:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Oh yea, there's another tray in my desicant chamber drying yet also.

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #20591153 - 09/20/14 12:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:nodofunderstanding:

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: Dilated]
    #20591199 - 09/20/14 12:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hey guys I know this is totally off topic. But all my pf tek jars are pinning. Should I dunk and roll them??

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: motoguy]
    #20591773 - 09/20/14 06:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:lol:

pinning means they're aching to go, so yes! be careful when rolling tho,
verm is sharp and can hurt them little babbies.

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: spacechildo]
    #20592518 - 09/20/14 11:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Here's what I did. I put enough water to get to 3" now I put electrical tape to mark it in 8 places I had no sharpie or anything. The top of the tape is on the 3 inch mark. How many holes, what size, what height, and where on my tub??

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Re: Need help with my monothb!! [Re: spacechildo]
    #20592607 - 09/20/14 12:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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drill bottom holes @ 4" height, top holes as high as you get.
follow my link on how to make the tubs, step 4 I think in my sig.





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follow the link!

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