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crsaen
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I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings
#20586751 - 09/19/14 01:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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a few questions. Should I just put the fans inside with the air blowing the opposite direction of the cakes, so it doesn't dry them out but still have airflow
How many holes in the shoebox should I put on each side?
After I inoculate the jars. How long does it stay in my darkness bins before I have to begin terranium preparation?
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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: crsaen]
#20586818 - 09/19/14 03:07 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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did you do any research first? you should try a sgfc which means 1/4 inch holes spaced 2 inches apart on all six sides of a tote(not shoebox)with 4-5 inches of perlite elevated so air can pass through under and up, it never needs to stay inthe darkness, ambient light is perfectly fine just not direct/intense
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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: crsaen]
#20586819 - 09/19/14 03:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: tombosley8]
#20587041 - 09/19/14 06:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Or watch the video's...
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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: cronicr]
#20587952 - 09/19/14 11:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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cronicr said: did you do any research first? you should try a sgfc which means 1/4 inch holes spaced 2 inches apart on all six sides of a tote(not shoebox)with 4-5 inches of perlite elevated so air can pass through under and up, it never needs to stay inthe darkness, ambient light is perfectly fine just not direct/intense
Are you saying a plastic shoebox is not a good choice? If so are the fans neeeded?
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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: crsaen]
#20587982 - 09/19/14 11:27 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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crsaen said:
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cronicr said: did you do any research first? you should try a sgfc which means 1/4 inch holes spaced 2 inches apart on all six sides of a tote(not shoebox)with 4-5 inches of perlite elevated so air can pass through under and up, it never needs to stay inthe darkness, ambient light is perfectly fine just not direct/intense
Are you saying a plastic shoebox is not a good choice? If so are the fans neeeded?
no it is not. unless its a giant shoebox that looks like this
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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: bloodyice69]
#20588078 - 09/19/14 11:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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bloodyice69 said:
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crsaen said:
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cronicr said: did you do any research first? you should try a sgfc which means 1/4 inch holes spaced 2 inches apart on all six sides of a tote(not shoebox)with 4-5 inches of perlite elevated so air can pass through under and up, it never needs to stay inthe darkness, ambient light is perfectly fine just not direct/intense
Are you saying a plastic shoebox is not a good choice? If so are the fans neeeded?
no it is not. unless its a giant shoebox that looks like this 
Can someone confirm this?
What should I go 10 gallon plates bins?
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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: crsaen]
#20588123 - 09/19/14 11:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The size really depends on how many cakes you will be fruiting. 66 Qts is a fairly common size. Even with a set up like a green house that can work well with fans I wouldn't suggest using USB fans. I tried them in my GH for a while. I burned out 2 of them in less than a month.
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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: crsaen]
#20588132 - 09/19/14 11:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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watch the vids.. follow them
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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: MudaFuka]
#20588242 - 09/19/14 12:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said: The size really depends on how many cakes you will be fruiting. 66 Qts is a fairly common size. Even with a set up like a green house that can work well with fans I wouldn't suggest using USB fans. I tried them in my GH for a while. I burned out 2 of them in less than a month.
The fan investment is cheap, but do I place it in the terranium facing the cakes or away?
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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: crsaen]
#20588250 - 09/19/14 12:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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So are shoe boxes a no no even if I'm gonna be using a lot of them( stacked
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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: crsaen]
#20588277 - 09/19/14 12:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Should I go 1/4 pint jars if this is the case?
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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: crsaen]
#20588290 - 09/19/14 12:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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the SGFC in my picture is a 27QT . and yes shoeboxes are a nono. how do u plan on putting 4-5 inches of perlite + cakes + have room for them to grow.
and shoeboxes are cardboard. what happens to cardboard when it gets wet? the humidity would in the end, destroy your shoebox
Edited by bloodyice69 (09/19/14 12:33 PM)
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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: crsaen]
#20588291 - 09/19/14 12:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wouldn't put a fan any were near your cakes I would build a SGFC to specs.
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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: MudaFuka]
#20588311 - 09/19/14 12:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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listen to these guys thos isnt rocket science....watch and follow rr's vids man
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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: bloodyice69]
#20588567 - 09/19/14 01:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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bloodyice69 said: the SGFC in my picture is a 27QT . and yes shoeboxes are a nono. how do u plan on putting 4-5 inches of perlite + cakes + have room for them to grow.
and shoeboxes are cardboard. what happens to cardboard when it gets wet? the humidity would in the end, destroy your shoebox
plastic show box with a lid
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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: MudaFuka]
#20588573 - 09/19/14 01:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said: I wouldn't put a fan any were near your cakes I would build a SGFC to specs.
why is this?
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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: crsaen]
#20588602 - 09/19/14 01:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said: I wouldn't put a fan any were near your cakes I would build a SGFC to specs.
why is this?
itll dry out your cakes causing small to no mushies
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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: crsaen]
#20588610 - 09/19/14 01:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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crsaen said:
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bloodyice69 said: the SGFC in my picture is a 27QT . and yes shoeboxes are a nono. how do u plan on putting 4-5 inches of perlite + cakes + have room for them to grow.
and shoeboxes are cardboard. what happens to cardboard when it gets wet? the humidity would in the end, destroy your shoebox
plastic show box with a lid
oh well, in your thread title it says "shoebox" not "show box"
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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: crsaen]
#20588620 - 09/19/14 01:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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it will dry them out. you need a constant supply of fresh air but you want it to be passive. if you had a fan in a little box with a cake all day it would dry so fast. the box is to small to hold any real humidity while the fan is blowing. you need a decent sized fruiting chamber that can hold the proper amount of perlite for humidity while allowing fresh air in and space for the mushrooms to grow.
its really simple to grow mushrooms now with all the information available. i hate to be a cookie cutter advocate but just follow to PF tek with a SGFC for your first time and read alot during that grow until you understand whats going on
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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: Mdahmer]
#20588788 - 09/19/14 02:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mdahmer said: it will dry them out. you need a constant supply of fresh air but you want it to be passive. if you had a fan in a little box with a cake all day it would dry so fast. the box is to small to hold any real humidity while the fan is blowing. you need a decent sized fruiting chamber that can hold the proper amount of perlite for humidity while allowing fresh air in and space for the mushrooms to grow.
its really simple to grow mushrooms now with all the information available. i hate to be a cookie cutter advocate but just follow to PF tek with a SGFC for your first time and read alot during that grow until you understand whats going on
will this 21 quart thing do? 
And I need an exhuast?
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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: crsaen]
#20588822 - 09/19/14 02:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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probably. it depends how many cakes your going to do. you dont want them smooshed together but they do like to be kinda close, it helps provide a micro climate for them when the mushrooms start growing.
and no exhuast per se but you need to have holes in the tub so fresh air can come in. 1/4" holes spaced 2" apart in a grid pattern all over the whole tub, sides, lid, and bottom. then put a layer of moist perlite about 4 inches deep and set your cakes on tin foil on the perlite
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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: Mdahmer]
#20588833 - 09/19/14 02:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mdahmer said: ...... set your cakes on tin foil on the perlite
true or false, wax paper works better. tin foil eats away due to a chemical reaction.
i read this somewhere.
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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: bloodyice69]
#20588869 - 09/19/14 02:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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thats more a worry for trays. cakes wont try to like colonize the foil in any way they just sit on it.
if you were to spawn in an aluminum tray sometimes people find holes from the myc eating through it or whateve it is that happens but some get away with it too.
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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: Mdahmer]
#20588966 - 09/19/14 03:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mdahmer said: it will dry them out. you need a constant supply of fresh air but you want it to be passive. if you had a fan in a little box with a cake all day it would dry so fast. the box is to small to hold any real humidity while the fan is blowing. you need a decent sized fruiting chamber that can hold the proper amount of perlite for humidity while allowing fresh air in and space for the mushrooms to grow.
its really simple to grow mushrooms now with all the information available. i hate to be a cookie cutter advocate but just follow to PF tek with a SGFC for your first time and read alot during that grow until you understand whats going on

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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: MudaFuka]
#20589312 - 09/19/14 04:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Can I fruit outside in nov in ny(terrace). No problem doing it inside tho
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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: crsaen]
#20589321 - 09/19/14 04:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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If I do it inside I'm not sure about airflow. If I put a usb fan inside blowing outward facing lots of wholes, think that be alright?
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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: crsaen]
#20589505 - 09/19/14 05:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just make a SGFC and keep it simple. You do not want a fan in your fruiting chamber. Period. You can get passive FAE from a tabletop fan sitting on the other side of the room or even your air conditioner.
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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: NumeroEno]
#20589655 - 09/19/14 06:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You really don't want a fan anywhere near a SGFC. It fucks with the way they function.
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Re: I'm gonna be getting usb fans for my shoeboxes once fruiting beings [Re: MudaFuka]
#20589724 - 09/19/14 06:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's why I said on the other side of the room. I've never done a SGFC but I figured you just want minuscule and calm air movement. I have my mono in my living room and just keep my thermostat set to 74. Based on Franks's writeups, I have perfect FAE, with condensation just dripping down from the top holes. Thinking about it more OP should just set his thermostat to the proper temp and keep a hands off attitude.
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