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OfflineMisterKite
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Is Anyone Actually Still In Favor Of the War?
    #2058586 - 10/30/03 10:11 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Seriously-this war seems to have angered both parties. For the more compassionate of us, thousands have died, and for the more Republican of us, the economy has gone to shit. American soldiers are still dying, and the U.S. has been made a global mockery. Who here truly feels NOW that this war was worth it?


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Re: Is Anyone Actually Still In Favor Of the War? [Re: MisterKite]
    #2058613 - 10/30/03 10:16 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Me.



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Re: Is Anyone Actually Still In Favor Of the War? [Re: MisterKite]
    #2058639 - 10/30/03 10:22 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Depends on wether the situation in Iraq actually improves or not. If it collapses back into another totalitarian regime, then no.


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Re: Is Anyone Actually Still In Favor Of the War? [Re: MisterKite]
    #2058714 - 10/30/03 10:43 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Me.





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Re: Is Anyone Actually Still In Favor Of the War? [Re: MisterKite]
    #2058736 - 10/30/03 10:51 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I don't know...it's turning into a real mess. I feel sorry for all parties involved. (I.E. U.S servicemen/women and the average Iraqi citizen)


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Re: Is Anyone Actually Still In Favor Of the War? [Re: Learyfan]
    #2058757 - 10/30/03 10:58 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I'm sticking by my origional concept: Democrats and Republicans both have certain groups that they like to shit on. The Dems got 8 years to shit on their victims, it was time to give those people a break and let the Republican's choice victims carry the weight for a while.

But since Republicans shit twice as hard as Democrats, it's time for a democrat president for another 8 years.

This is assuming that a third party won't win, a safe assumption.


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Re: Is Anyone Actually Still In Favor Of the War? [Re: MisterKite]
    #2059209 - 10/31/03 01:01 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

People here are pretty hard headed. Plus, they sit behind a computer screen all day hawking for the war.

It's hard to feel compassion when you rarely have human contact in meaningful ways. Places like this make it easier for people to not care about reality.. only their engineered perception.

Sadly, you'll get alot of yeas on this one.

Jacob's Ladder
by Chumbawamba

Like the sermon on the mountain
Says the dumber got dumb
Hellfire and brimstone
Swapped for oil and guns
When we re pushing up daisies
We all look the same
In the name of the Father, maybe
But not in my name

On this Jacob's Ladder
The only way up is down
One step from disaster
Two to make the higher ground
Jacob's Ladder

A million lifetimes
Left dying in the sun
In the streets down in Whitehall
Dog's picking at the bones
9/11 got branded
9/11 got sold
There'll be no-one left to water
All the seeds you sowed

On this Jacob's Ladder
The only way up is down
One step from disaster
Two to make the higher ground
Jacob's Ladder

On this Jacob's Ladder
The only way up is down
One step from disaster
Two to make the higher ground
On this Jacob's Ladder
The only way up is down
One step from disaster
Two to make the higher ground
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Re: Is Anyone Actually Still In Favor Of the War? [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #2060090 - 10/31/03 10:41 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

PsiloKitten said:
People here are pretty hard headed. Plus, they sit behind a computer screen all day hawking for the war.

It's hard to feel compassion when you rarely have human contact in meaningful ways. Places like this make it easier for people to not care about reality.. only their engineered perception.

Sadly, you'll get alot of yeas on this one.




Would you say that stopping a madman from gassing his own people is something that people who have "human contact in meaningful ways" would support, or be against?


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Just give em a little more time, the iraqis are making great progress. And this is unorganized. Wait till they get organized.


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Re: Is Anyone Actually Still In Favor Of the War? [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #2060139 - 10/31/03 11:26 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

they sit behind a computer screen all day hawking for the war.

It's hard to feel compassion when you rarely have human contact in meaningful ways.




Last week I was working in a trauma center getting way more human contact in one night than most people get in a month. I have a pretty good idea what people are like when they have bullet holes in them, broken femurs, or other assorted boo-boos.

I did a little work in the ped section, which is kind of hard to take. You have to do things that you know scare and hurt the kids you are working on.

I think most of the people here probably have some sort of life aside fromt he internet.


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Re: Is Anyone Actually Still In Favor Of the War? [Re: wingnutx]
    #2060620 - 10/31/03 03:02 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I agree, most being the keyword in that last sentence.

Not all, unfortunately.


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Re: Is Anyone Actually Still In Favor Of the War? [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #2060697 - 10/31/03 03:24 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

you can not create peace thorough war, i never supported it and never will, nor will i ever support any sort of armed forces or armies of any sort,


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"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: Is Anyone Actually Still In Favor Of the War? [Re: ZippoZ]
    #2060739 - 10/31/03 03:40 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Exactly, war can never be "worth it". :thumbdown:


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Re: Is Anyone Actually Still In Favor Of the War? [Re: Azmodeus]
    #2060755 - 10/31/03 03:44 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

England should have surrendered rather than fought in WWII?


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Re: Is Anyone Actually Still In Favor Of the War? [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #2060760 - 10/31/03 03:45 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

and you know about the day-to-day lives of the people that post here how?


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Re: Is Anyone Actually Still In Favor Of the War? [Re: wingnutx]
    #2060775 - 10/31/03 03:49 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

honestly wingtux does it matter?! one dictator replaces the other, empires rise and fall, there is always someone repressing those who don't stand for themselves. Look at the waste that was ww2, it was NOT worth it....not to imply the alternitive to be better.
But usa developed nuclear weapons in that war....we may yet anihilate ourselves with them,...ist that worth it?


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Re: Is Anyone Actually Still In Favor Of the War? [Re: ]
    #2060787 - 10/31/03 03:52 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

and you know about the day-to-day lives of the people that post here how?

Because they post about it?

We know inny enjoys shooting at animals for example because he's said so.


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Re: Is Anyone Actually Still In Favor Of the War? [Re: ]
    #2060808 - 10/31/03 03:57 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

How about cause alot of em arent even smart enough to turn off their listing on the Who's Online portion of the site and you can see that they are constantly here? I mean, if yer gonna be here that much, you should atleast have some dignity as to not advertise it.



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Re: Is Anyone Actually Still In Favor Of the War? [Re: Xlea321]
    #2060821 - 10/31/03 04:01 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

i wasn't talking to you alex.

i asked psilokitten how she knows that "not all" of the people that post here have a life away from their computer.

seems like a rather presumptous statement to me.

much like saying that people here "sit behind their computers all day hawking for the war" and "rarely have human contact in meaningful ways".


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Re: Is Anyone Actually Still In Favor Of the War? [Re: ]
    #2060831 - 10/31/03 04:05 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I call em as I see em.


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Re: Is Anyone Actually Still In Favor Of the War? [Re: MisterKite]
    #2060835 - 10/31/03 04:07 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

i think the war will probably end up being a good thing for most of the population of iraq.

i don't think it has been, and i doubt it will be, a good thing for americans... and if it does end up being a good thing, it will probably be because it makes us richer, not safer (if profit is indeed the motive, i don't see how the iraq war represents a good investment of $87 billion, but maybe it is...).

i don't think hussein was a threat to the united states, and i don't think our military should have been called up against him.

that said, he was a nasty dude and the world is better without him. he should have been dealt with by his neighbors and\or the people of iraq. it wasn't our business.


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