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Ogla
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thinking about cross breeding again
#20583098 - 09/18/14 10:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im obtaining a redboy print. Im trying to get a redboy print. I got a rustspore print., And i have a purple mystic/ dover fl too.
I was thinking about trying a cross breeding expriment. First cross the mushrooms with red spores and then try crossing it with purple spores.
Ive once crossed mazatapec with redspore, heres the log.. trying clicking the deleted pictures, lemme know if they pop up
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14805875#14805875
anyways, still need a redspore, but i see a vendor is carrying prints atm. Of course ill post a log if i do. Thanks for listening
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azur
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Re: thinking about cross breeding again [Re: Ogla]
#20583157 - 09/18/14 10:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hell yea!!.
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NumeroEno
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Re: thinking about cross breeding again [Re: azur]
#20583320 - 09/18/14 11:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cross breeding sounds cool. No idea how it's done. Just inoculate the same jar with different varieties? Getting a purple mystic spore print soon as well. Was thinking it would be fun to do with some regular cubes once I get good isolates going.
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Edited by NumeroEno (09/18/14 11:30 AM)
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Ogla
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Re: thinking about cross breeding again [Re: NumeroEno]
#20583455 - 09/18/14 12:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i mixed the spores in the spore syringes and then inoculated. thats how i plan don doing this one
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NumeroEno
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Re: thinking about cross breeding again [Re: Ogla]
#20583468 - 09/18/14 12:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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But in theory I could put a PM and a Fatass agar wedge in the same jar, shake, and once fully colonized I could g2g them and have a shit ton of hybrid spawn?
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Ogla
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Re: thinking about cross breeding again [Re: NumeroEno]
#20583474 - 09/18/14 12:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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now idk about that. May or may not work, but i always encourage to experiment. Thats how we learn you know.
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NumeroEno
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Re: thinking about cross breeding again [Re: Ogla]
#20583498 - 09/18/14 12:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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My sentiments exactly. Since they're both cubes they shouldn't compete, but I dunno if they'll hybridize either.
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azur
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Re: thinking about cross breeding again [Re: NumeroEno]
#20583526 - 09/18/14 12:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think there's more to it than that.
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pawnzy
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Re: thinking about cross breeding again [Re: azur]
#20583535 - 09/18/14 12:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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There probably is, or theres even less meaning it wont hybridize at all and youll get some fruits of this here some there, or it will fail completely and theyll compete
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prismism


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Re: thinking about cross breeding again [Re: Ogla]
#20583538 - 09/18/14 12:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I recently mixed half a syringe of PE and half a syringe of Chitwan. The results were some of the substrates fruited PE, and the others fruited Chitwan. Some of the subs fruited one on the first flush and the other on the next. There were no hybrids that I saw.
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NumeroEno
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Re: thinking about cross breeding again [Re: prismism]
#20583545 - 09/18/14 12:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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So how are different varieties of cubensis hybridized? It's not like cross pollinating bud plants lol
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Water bright as the sky from which it came
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DOG FOOD AGAR
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pawnzy
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Re: thinking about cross breeding again [Re: prismism]
#20583547 - 09/18/14 12:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah thats what i was thinking manQuote:
prismism said: I recently mixed half a syringe of PE and half a syringe of Chitwan. The results were some of the substrates fruited PE, and the others fruited Chitwan. Some of the subs fruited one on the first flush and the other on the next. There were no hybrids that I saw.
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Sh33p.Milk



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Re: thinking about cross breeding again [Re: pawnzy]
#20583579 - 09/18/14 12:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you read RR's into on the "strain discussion" page he describes the process that took place for the creation of the APE. It took multiple grows to get the desired phenotypes to be expressed. I wonder if your experience will be similar.
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maddchef
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Re: thinking about cross breeding again [Re: Sh33p.Milk]
#20583930 - 09/18/14 02:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mixing spores doesn't do anything, usually you need the nuclei of each spore to interact.
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Re: thinking about cross breeding again [Re: prismism]
#20583983 - 09/18/14 02:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
prismism said: I recently mixed half a syringe of PE and half a syringe of Chitwan. The results were some of the substrates fruited PE, and the others fruited Chitwan. Some of the subs fruited one on the first flush and the other on the next. There were no hybrids that I saw.
pe is tricky to cross and spores is actually the easiest way to do it.print one on top the other. pasty jas a tbread in the growlogs i got one in my journal
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prismism


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Re: thinking about cross breeding again [Re: cronicr]
#20584086 - 09/18/14 02:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
cronicr said:
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prismism said: I recently mixed half a syringe of PE and half a syringe of Chitwan. The results were some of the substrates fruited PE, and the others fruited Chitwan. Some of the subs fruited one on the first flush and the other on the next. There were no hybrids that I saw.
pe is tricky to cross and spores is actually the easiest way to do it.print one on top the other. pasty jas a tbread in the growlogs i got one in my journal
I'm not going to go searching through your journal so how about you post a link or the photo proof in this here thread. I was under the impression that mixing spores does not create hybrids. I even thought RR had to use snake venom or some shit to create his 'hybrid' varieties. I also don't see why placing a spore print on top of another spore print would be that much different, or more effective, than simply mixing the spores together in a liquid solution. I'm not buying it.
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azur
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Re: thinking about cross breeding again [Re: prismism]
#20584126 - 09/18/14 03:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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prismism said:
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cronicr said:
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prismism said: I recently mixed half a syringe of PE and half a syringe of Chitwan. The results were some of the substrates fruited PE, and the others fruited Chitwan. Some of the subs fruited one on the first flush and the other on the next. There were no hybrids that I saw.
pe is tricky to cross and spores is actually the easiest way to do it.print one on top the other. pasty jas a tbread in the growlogs i got one in my journal
I'm not going to go searching through your journal so how about you post a link or the photo proof in this here thread. I was under the impression that mixing spores does not create hybrids. I even thought RR had to use snake venom or some shit to create his 'hybrid' varieties. I also don't see why placing a spore print on top of another spore print would be that much different, or more effective, than simply mixing the spores together in a liquid solution. I'm not buying it.
Agreed
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Sh33p.Milk



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Re: thinking about cross breeding again [Re: prismism]
#20584138 - 09/18/14 03:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Monokaryons or dikaryons can be crossed. Snake venom is used for non-compatible strains. There are other resources for this information on this website.
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ant707
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Re: thinking about cross breeding again [Re: azur]
#20584174 - 09/18/14 03:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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azur said:
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prismism said:
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cronicr said:
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prismism said: I recently mixed half a syringe of PE and half a syringe of Chitwan. The results were some of the substrates fruited PE, and the others fruited Chitwan. Some of the subs fruited one on the first flush and the other on the next. There were no hybrids that I saw.
pe is tricky to cross and spores is actually the easiest way to do it.print one on top the other. pasty jas a tbread in the growlogs i got one in my journal
I'm not going to go searching through your journal so how about you post a link or the photo proof in this here thread. I was under the impression that mixing spores does not create hybrids. I even thought RR had to use snake venom or some shit to create his 'hybrid' varieties. I also don't see why placing a spore print on top of another spore print would be that much different, or more effective, than simply mixing the spores together in a liquid solution. I'm not buying it.
Agreed
theres not much "searching" through his journal to it.....its the second entry there.
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prismism


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Re: thinking about cross breeding again [Re: Sh33p.Milk]
#20584177 - 09/18/14 03:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sh33p.Milk said: Monokaryons or dikaryons can be crossed. Snake venom is used for non-compatible strains. There are other resources for this information on this website.
What determines whether or not two 'strains' of the same species are compatible or not?
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