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Is This Bulk or Casing?
    #20581122 - 09/17/14 08:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hey Shroomery!
So I have been using a sort of Frankenstein of methods I've found on here and it has worked great for me so far! :thumbup: I do have a couple of questions about my method and would always love constructive criticism and ideas to improve my grow.

When I grow I put about 1 inch of vermiculite in the bottom of a plastic "shoebox" bin with tinfoil. I pour boiling water on top until field capacity, then I place a piece of tinfoil on top of the box and wait till cooled. After cooled I take my standard BRF cakes that have been soaking for 24 hours and crumble them on top of the verm. I allow that to sit for 2 days then I add a layer of coco coir and vermiculite 60/40ish on top. I prepare the coir and verm by adding boiling water till field capacity and allowed to cool.

Typically I would just fruit right after the casing and in a couple of days I would get pins. Normally a little bit of mycellium comes through the top but not much. On my last grow I used B+ and the mycellium covered the coir in only a few days! So I added more coir and it again colonized that and has been fruiting amazing. Is the coir acting as a bulk substrate? I always considered it to be used just for moisture. Should I allow my bins to incubate after adding the coir? Why does B+ seem to colonize so much quicker and more aggressive than all my other strains?

Sorry this is really long just hard to explain my questions... :awehigh:
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Re: Is This Bulk or Casing? [Re: gardenstate]
    #20581176 - 09/17/14 08:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

that would be mnore csing then a bulk sub, iu would s imply mix it all once you break your cakes up and let it all colonize(simply put spawn it!)


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Re: Is This Bulk or Casing? [Re: gardenstate]
    #20581202 - 09/17/14 08:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

What you are doing is cased grains. you case top and bottom but its still cased grains. Since coir can be used as both a bulk substrate and a casing material when it colonised and you then cased over it, it essentially became a bulk substrate. B+ has nothing to do with it. The particular set of genetics you are working with just happen to be strong colonisers or they really like coir.


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Re: Is This Bulk or Casing? [Re: MudaFuka]
    #20581252 - 09/17/14 08:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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What you are doing is cased grains. you case top and bottom but its still cased grains. Since coir can be used as both a bulk substrate and a casing material when it colonised and you then cased over it, it essentially became a bulk substrate. B+ has nothing to do with it. The particular set of genetics you are working with just happen to be strong colonisers or they really like coir.





I had a feeling that B+ didn't really mean anything but either way I must have a great isolate (I use LC) :thumbup: So would you all recommend I mix the crumbled cakes with the coir? Should I keep the verm bottom layer?

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Re: Is This Bulk or Casing? [Re: gardenstate]
    #20581275 - 09/17/14 08:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Next time mix the crumbled cakes with coir, verm and gypsum.


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Re: Is This Bulk or Casing? [Re: MudaFuka]
    #20581412 - 09/17/14 09:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Next time mix the crumbled cakes with coir, verm and gypsum.



Right on :thumbup: what kind of ratio?

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Re: Is This Bulk or Casing? [Re: gardenstate]
    #20581423 - 09/17/14 09:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I use about 3 quarts of verm per 650 gram brick of coir. I have never used cakes as spawn though so I'm not sure how many cakes you should use.


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Re: Is This Bulk or Casing? [Re: MudaFuka]
    #20581467 - 09/17/14 09:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I use about 3 quarts of verm per 650 gram brick of coir. I have never used cakes as spawn though so I'm not sure how many cakes you should use.




Thanks! I don't have any gypsum I'm going to look for some tomorrow. Do you know if Walmart carries? How much of that do you add?

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Re: Is This Bulk or Casing? [Re: gardenstate]
    #20581479 - 09/17/14 09:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I just throw in a random handful. I have been unable to find powdered gypsum so I just crush pieces of drywall to get mine.


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Re: Is This Bulk or Casing? [Re: MudaFuka]
    #20581490 - 09/17/14 09:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I just throw in a random handful. I have been unable to find powdered gypsum so I just crush pieces of drywall to get mine.



Drywall is gypsum?!?  :mindblown:

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Re: Is This Bulk or Casing? [Re: gardenstate]
    #20581534 - 09/17/14 09:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Drywall is gypsum.
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Except the fire rated and moisture rated stuff probably has other junk in it too.

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Re: Is This Bulk or Casing? [Re: Quexl]
    #20581544 - 09/17/14 09:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:brilliant:
Looks like I got my game plan! Thanks Everyone! :highfive:

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