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QuantumNexus
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Moldy mushrooms
#20574276 - 09/16/14 08:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey guys,
First grow wasn't the most successful, but there is one jar that turned out nice (first time with plastic containers so I think I under pressure-cooked them). Anyway, I fruited it as uncased grains, and the humidity, temperature, and light are a little lacking, but it's the best I can do right now.
Anyway, they've been quite slow to get bigger. I've more or less followed Violet's tek, sans casing. I believe they started to show noticeable signs of growth last Friday (week and a half ago) but I haven't picked them because they've never really gotten to the telltale "before the veil breaks" stage.
I'm now worried that they may be molding. I tried a one last night (not to trip, just to test it as I've never eaten a fresh cubensis before) and it tasted fine, albeit watery.
Today though, some look funny (and have gotten bigger). I'm wondering if I waited too long, if I should pick now, or if I should let them keep on growing.



Any thoughts are appreciated, thanks!
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I'd harvest those right now looks like a few of them already has broken veils
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Re: Moldy mushrooms [Re: el-legesh]
#20574311 - 09/16/14 08:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fruiting uncased grains is usually a disaster as your results have demonstrated. The substrate is dried out and fruits look aborted with the eexception of the larger fruit which manages to actually drop spores. Almost looks like a horribly abused PE. I doubt you will see anything more from that so you might as well pick and dry and start over. Do it properly if you want results.
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QuantumNexus
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I should add, it's multispore. The shape of the fruit is not an indicator of performance as mutants are common
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Pastywhyte
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That's not a mutant anymore than Rodney King was. Those have had to fight to survive with everything they had. A true testament to the resiliance of the species. That should go in Tmethyls house of horrors for sure.
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Pastywhyte said: That's not a mutant anymore than Rodney King was. Those have had to fight to survive with everything they had. A true testament to the resiliance of the species. That should go in Tmethyls house of horrors for sure.
lmao! thats an amazing analogy
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Mutants from MS? Huh I didn't know itbwas that common.
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Re: Moldy mushrooms [Re: pawnzy]
#20574396 - 09/16/14 08:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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rodney the mutant
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Ninja turtle caps?
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spacechildo said:

rodney the mutant 
rodney the mycelium.. got beat up by several factors by quantumnexus on sept 16th 2014.
It spawned the shroomery riots which led to 1.3 million brain cells in ego damage.
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QuantumNexus
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Re: Moldy mushrooms [Re: pawnzy]
#20575366 - 09/16/14 01:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow, I really didn't think it was that bad, considering people have done the tek with casing and gotten nothing
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i might take nuthing over that i'm just kidding what you fruiting in?
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QuantumNexus
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Re: Moldy mushrooms [Re: cronicr]
#20577171 - 09/16/14 08:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Is it really that bad? It's straight, uncased grains covered with a soda bottle with little pinprick holes. I give it FAE several times a day. I've also bottom-watered it.
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Pastywhyte
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Yes its a disaster. If your going to fruit straight grains you have to case them. Without a casing the grains bleed moisture leading to a horrible dried out surface of the mycelium which is mostly dead at this point, and a really pathetic attempt by the colony to push out a flush before it dies. I am actually amazed you got a fruit at all.
V tek was for all intents and purposes a bad choice for my environment and I had what I consider to be poor results.
These were bad results. Compare to yours.
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My question was never "Are these mushrooms good?" My question was "Are they moldy or okay?" I don't need the criticism (thought this was a supporting community), I just wanted to know if I'd get sick. Reason they weren't cased was I almost burned down my house when I microwaved them a la Violet, so I was forced to go with no casing. Nothing about this was ideal, but I think it's my dedication to life, spirituality, and personal growth that helped them make life. We are all part of the same greater consciousness. I feel like that should be the vibe of this site, but it isn't.
I think I'm signing off with this.
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They are just busting your balls. Those mushrooms are more than likely good. Keep in mind, if you want to do this with great results skip the GOD DAMN MICROWAVE. Use a pressure cooker. Do grains, and spawn to bulk. If you want to follow the V-tek, see if she will respond to you in a PM to help you figure out what went wrong. IMO there is nothing that you can put in a micro wave and expect to be sterile when it comes out.
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Pastywhyte
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No the vibe of the site is to help people grow mushrooms. Without criticism you will not improve. No your fruits are not moldy, go ahead and eat them. I doubt you have enough for a trip and they look disgusting but feel free to chow them down.
As for violets microwaved casing, I did it, it was okay. I prefer to pasteurize myself but it worked. I know where he went wrong and I told him. Violet will tell him the same thing, you can't fruit uncased grain. If OP can't handle a little constructive criticism then this is not a good hobby for him. He should either learn how to stick to a tek or else play video games or something.
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Re: Moldy mushrooms [Re: Sockadin]
#20577581 - 09/16/14 10:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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there is all kinds of incredible advice here, and all the information you need to grow ridiculous amounts of mushrooms you just have to use common sense and find the good information. check out peoples gallerys and pictures of stuff they post and its not hard to see who knows what they are doing.
and take the responses you got as your lesson not to do something like that again lol, stick around and get better. key mentos..etc
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Im calling mushroom protection agency after seeing OPs pictures
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tombosley8
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just do what they say(optional) listen to what they're sayingthey are only helping you out and giving great advice. I'd be nowhere without the constructive critisism thanks
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Edited by tombosley8 (09/16/14 10:51 PM)
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spacechildo
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tombosley8 said: I'd be nowhere without the constructive critisism 

What's the point of posting a pic if everyone is just gonna kiss ass and say everything's great? If I did something sub-par without knowing it I'd be pretty upset if everyone knew an easy way for me to boost my grows but didnt care to tell me 
you (probably) already have a mom for that, we're here to help you improve!
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QuantumNexus
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I guess what I've been saying throughout the thread is that I've done as much or more reading than everyone else. I know things weren't ideal with this, but I'm not in a position to make things ideal. For what I had to work with, I thought it was fine. I didn't have the ability to spawn to bulk or even properly fruit it. I was just concerned about when to pick
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Pastywhyte
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QuantumNexus said: I guess what I've been saying throughout the thread is that I've done as much or more reading than everyone else.
I doubt that. If you had you would have known that it would have been better to wait until you had a casing ready and once you did then you would have taken it out of the fridge (where you would have stored it until you had your shit together) and cased it.
Then you would have had a decent harvest and this abortion of a thread would never had happened.
Regardless it is what its is. Next time do it right and you will at least have enough for a trip
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I can tell you proper procedure for everything with my mouth sewn shut. It's not an issue of not knowing how to do these things, it's an issue of not having the luxury of a constant stove, privacy, and freedom you all have. I had to do the best with what I could, otherwise the colonized jar would've just died. Something is better than nothing. I feel like you're all missing the point of this hobby. This hobby isn't about making things to trip on, it's about using spores, microscopic seeds, to make life. It's about appreciating the life cycle of fungi as a whole. Everyone is in awe of the people who grow pounds upon pounds clearly to sell, but I am just happy that, given all of my unimaginable obstacles , I was able to give life to something. I'm happy with what I have, I just wanted to know if it was okay.
When I have the ability to do everything right, I will because I know how, but it's about the journey more than the poundage.
I know they're not great mushrooms, but I gave them life and they relatively flourished considering what they went through. I couldn't have asked for more from them.
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And when the day comes that I can do everything ideally, I'll post it, so then I can actually get some useful criticism. Unsolicited critique about what I know was wrong (but was unable to amend) is fruitless (pun intended).
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spacechildo
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If you've ever read a single quote on fruiting straight grains you'd know why we're surprised it even fruited.
making statements like "i've read as much as anyone else here" just makes you look bad to us, the proof is in the pudding. The polite way to go about this would be to of everything that's being said, throw in a "thanks" or 2 and understand no one's here to mock you we're here to help you improve.
Going all and saying dont give advice on what's not being asked is the mother of all 's.
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Pastywhyte
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What are you 12? Or trying to grow without everyone in the residence knowing or being cool with it? That in itself is seriously not cool. The number of people here who have ended up with charges or homeless as a result of trying to grow on the down low is testament to what a shit plan that is.
If that is the case I take back my advice and I wish you lots of trich until you grow up and not put people around you at risk.
FYI I don't just grow "things to trip on" I also enjoy growing gourmet and edibles. I like the challenge they offer. Cause this hobby for me is about having a level of skill and knowledge.
Edited by Pastywhyte (09/17/14 10:20 AM)
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QuantumNexus
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What "advice" was given? "Those look awful," "You are terrible at this," etc. That's the vibe of this thread. There's no advice, just that my grow was bad and because I don't like people unfairly mocking and judging me, and I am consequently bad. I'm putting no one around me at risk.
My thoughts were that I have a colonized jar and nothing else, so I can try to make it work or just let the mycelium die. I chose to try.
I can't think of anyone who posted here deserving a "thanks" other than the people who mentioned not to fruit uncased grains and that they don't look moldy. Thank you to those people. Other than that, this post has just fueled a lot of hate and negative vibes unjustly.
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Pastywhyte said: Fruiting uncased grains is usually a disaster as your results have demonstrated. The substrate is dried out and fruits look aborted with the eexception of the larger fruit which manages to actually drop spores. Almost looks like a horribly abused PE. I doubt you will see anything more from that so you might as well pick and dry and start over. Do it properly if you want results.
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Pastywhyte said: Yes its a disaster. If your going to fruit straight grains you have to case them. Without a casing the grains bleed moisture leading to a horrible dried out surface of the mycelium which is mostly dead at this point, and a really pathetic attempt by the colony to push out a flush before it dies. I am actually amazed you got a fruit at all.
V tek was for all intents and purposes a bad choice for my environment and I had what I consider to be poor results.
These were bad results. Compare to yours.

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Sockadin said: They are just busting your balls. Those mushrooms are more than likely good. Keep in mind, if you want to do this with great results skip the GOD DAMN MICROWAVE. Use a pressure cooker. Do grains, and spawn to bulk. If you want to follow the V-tek, see if she will respond to you in a PM to help you figure out what went wrong. IMO there is nothing that you can put in a micro wave and expect to be sterile when it comes out.
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Pastywhyte said: No the vibe of the site is to help people grow mushrooms. Without criticism you will not improve. No your fruits are not moldy, go ahead and eat them. I doubt you have enough for a trip and they look disgusting but feel free to chow them down.
As for violets microwaved casing, I did it, it was okay. I prefer to pasteurize myself but it worked. I know where he went wrong and I told him. Violet will tell him the same thing, you can't fruit uncased grain. If OP can't handle a little constructive criticism then this is not a good hobby for him. He should either learn how to stick to a tek or else play video games or something.
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Mdahmer said: there is all kinds of incredible advice here, and all the information you need to grow ridiculous amounts of mushrooms you just have to use common sense and find the good information. check out peoples gallerys and pictures of stuff they post and its not hard to see who knows what they are doing.
and take the responses you got as your lesson not to do something like that again lol, stick around and get better. key mentos..etc
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QuantumNexus said: I guess what I've been saying throughout the thread is that I've done as much or more reading than everyone else.
I doubt that. If you had you would have known that it would have been better to wait until you had a casing ready and once you did then you would have taken it out of the fridge (where you would have stored it until you had your shit together) and cased it.
Then you would have had a decent harvest and this abortion of a thread would never had happened.
Regardless it is what its is. Next time do it right and you will at least have enough for a trip 
just in case you missed it in your fit of rageego because you can't take a joke not even about you but about your poor attempt at fruiting. And then you claim to have read more than us. hah that really made me laugh but you could easily learn a lot by just reading this thread. Here is a good link ALL you'll need (for the meantime) for grains and bulk GOOD luck and really think about this
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Pastywhyte said: What are you trying to grow without everyone in the residence knowing or being cool with it? That in itself is seriously not cool. The number of people here who have ended up with charges or homeless as a result of trying to grow on the down low is testament to what a shit plan that is.
maybe it's not the best time and place for you right now
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Edited by tombosley8 (09/17/14 12:25 PM)
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spacechildo
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your ego is getting in the way. read the comments again.
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take 10 grams and youll have no ego anymore... oh wait you dont have 10 grams
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This thread has been closed.
Reason: eat your fruits there fine, make a tea if your worried. start a grow log for your next run and i'm sure these boys don't mind taking up a fresh start with ya
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