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animals and dreaming
    #2057099 - 10/30/03 02:42 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)




Do animals dream when they sleep?

My cat's eyes are always moving when he's sleeping so I'm assuming he's dreaming, and I also thought I heard somewhere that animals do in fact dream.

Are animals in the "astral planes" too when they dream?

If they dream much like we do then couldn't that prove we really are no different then animals- our consciousness is not divine, greater or more spiritually adept, just more evolved?

If dreaming is to prepare us for the next dimension or 5th dimension then couldn't the fact that animals dream be used to prove that dreaming isn't any utility to prepare us for anything, just some strange occurrence that happens to many animals, regardless of the level consciousness?







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Re: animals and dreaming [Re: start25]
    #2057353 - 10/30/03 03:53 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I dont know what makes people think humans are so special..... :nonono:


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Re: animals and dreaming [Re: Spokesman]
    #2057486 - 10/30/03 04:28 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Dogs dream quite frequently.

When my dog naps during the day, he whines and has muscle jerks. Those are symptoms of dreaming. As to what he dreams about, I'm not sure.

"If they dream much like we do then couldn't that prove we really are no different then animals- our consciousness is not divine, greater or more spiritually adept, just more evolved?"

physically, we are not very different from animals, the genome of a rat is very similar to that of a human. What does seperate us from other animals is that we are more self aware, we are cognizant of past and the future, and we can anticipate our own demise.



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Re: animals and dreaming [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2058798 - 10/30/03 11:08 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

We ARE animals........ i thought this was proven.


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Re: animals and dreaming [Re: Spokesman]
    #2058890 - 10/30/03 11:29 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

i would imagine my dog to be very enlightened
she chills on my bed most of the day
when she awake, i guess that could be considered meditation

well, far fetched, just pushing the boundaries
ahhhh, ok nevermind im joking


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Re: animals and dreaming [Re: PeyoteZen]
    #2059020 - 10/31/03 12:14 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

my dogs definitly dream. she barks and runs in her sleep. well, her paws move in a running movement, and she whines and woofs quietly.


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