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my cakes aren't growing
    #20569171 - 09/15/14 12:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

2 weeks ago I inoculated my jars. Everything went smooth. My only problem was I couldn't find any Brown rice flour so I blended up some Brown rice. Now I'm starting to get concerned. If the rice wasn't organic could I have screwed myself? Any advice would be helpful. The temp has been right. Everything was done correctly, but still no blooms. I'm on the verge of opening a jar to see if there is any growth in the middle.

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: TheGuyNamedPuck]
    #20569178 - 09/15/14 12:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

whats the temperature at? I'm not a pro but i grind up wal-mart brand brown rice and never have any issues with brf cakes

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: ryanriot]
    #20569188 - 09/15/14 12:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The temp has stayed between 75 and 85 degrees F

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: TheGuyNamedPuck]
    #20569197 - 09/15/14 12:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

As long as everything is done right you should see some growth. Sometimes it just takes a while

http://www.shroomery.org/5161/How-long-does-it-take-to-see-signs-of-mycelium-growth

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: ryanriot]
    #20569211 - 09/15/14 12:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you. I guess I'm just getting nervous. I expected to see something by now. I used Costa Rican spores. I wish I knew more about them. Ordered them from a good site.

Edited by TheGuyNamedPuck (09/15/14 12:59 AM)

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: TheGuyNamedPuck]
    #20569214 - 09/15/14 12:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

How many cc's per jar? And edit your post and remove the vendors name

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: ryanriot]
    #20569218 - 09/15/14 12:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: pablokabute]
    #20569245 - 09/15/14 01:01 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

MS?


Not sure how many cc's. They were the only ones I could find. I think they hold 2 cups.

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: TheGuyNamedPuck]
    #20569246 - 09/15/14 01:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sorry i worded that poorly. What i meant was, how many cc's of the spore syringe did you put into each jar?

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: ryanriot]
    #20569259 - 09/15/14 01:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I may have used to much (if there is such a thing). I used the whole syringe on 4 jars (5 holes in each jar).

Sorry I couldn't be more exact.

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: TheGuyNamedPuck]
    #20569267 - 09/15/14 01:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah that's way over kill. You only need 1cc per jar, and each jar only needs 4 holes

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: ryanriot]
    #20569269 - 09/15/14 01:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Is overkill just a waste or could I have overcrowded them?

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: TheGuyNamedPuck]
    #20569282 - 09/15/14 01:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Its a waste and it can throw off the moisture content in the jars, favoring bacteria and mold growth. Why you don't have any growth i have no idea.

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: ryanriot]
    #20569287 - 09/15/14 01:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I don't even have mold growing

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: TheGuyNamedPuck]
    #20569292 - 09/15/14 01:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah that's the only thing i don't understand. You don't have anything covering the lids like foil do you?

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: TheGuyNamedPuck]
    #20569293 - 09/15/14 01:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

your just gonna have to wait it out, start some more in the meantime if ya can


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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: cronicr]
    #20569312 - 09/15/14 01:35 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, I have foil covering them. But they aren't tied down.

I just ordered some golden teachers? And albino penis envy.

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: TheGuyNamedPuck]
    #20569316 - 09/15/14 01:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Remove foils.

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: ketsa]
    #20569319 - 09/15/14 01:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Removing foil now. Just curious.. ..why?

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: TheGuyNamedPuck]
    #20569321 - 09/15/14 01:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You can remove the foil for better gas exchange. You don't need anything covering the holes on the jar lids if you have a layer of dry verm on top

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: ryanriot]
    #20569326 - 09/15/14 01:46 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I put a layer of dry verm on top when I canned them. I imagine it's not dry anymore though. Lol

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: TheGuyNamedPuck]
    #20569329 - 09/15/14 01:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Haha yeah, take the foil off and give it a few more days and see what happens

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: ryanriot]
    #20569334 - 09/15/14 01:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Will do. One more question... Is it normal to see the soil settle an inch in the jars? There was no room when I canned them, yet now there is an inch of air space at the top of the cans.

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: TheGuyNamedPuck]
    #20569335 - 09/15/14 01:53 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I haven't seen that ever happen to any of my jars. And i haven't heard of that happening. Maybe someone else can chime in on that question.

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: ryanriot]
    #20569389 - 09/15/14 02:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

not about ge it's about keeping your dry layer dry:thumbup:


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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: TheGuyNamedPuck]
    #20570085 - 09/15/14 09:50 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: TheGuyNamedPuck]
    #20570121 - 09/15/14 10:01 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Will do. One more question... Is it normal to see the soil settle an inch in the jars? There was no room when I canned them, yet now there is an inch of air space at the top of the cans.




From your initial response and this one it sounds like you got the dry layer of verm wet which could have caused the "sub" to settle.

If the dry layer got wet the ratio is now off for your ver/BRF/water.

The dry layer is to help keep out harmful bacteria and if you got water in the jar after the sterilization process you now have greater risk for contaminates and the mic is no longer in optimal growing conditions due to the excess water.

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: TheGuyNamedPuck]
    #20570124 - 09/15/14 10:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Will do. One more question... Is it normal to see the soil settle an inch in the jars? There was no room when I canned them, yet now there is an inch of air space at the top of the cans.




From your initial response and this one it sounds like you got the dry layer of verm wet which could have caused the "sub" to settle.

If the dry layer got wet the ratio is now off for your ver/BRF/water.

The dry layer is to help keep out harmful bacteria and if you got water in the jar after the sterilization process you now have greater risk for contaminates and the mic is no longer in optimal growing conditions due to the excess water.

Did you get excess water in the jars and if so during which process?

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: CloudyDrizzle]
    #20570144 - 09/15/14 10:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If I add water to verm the verm end up taking MORE space than without the water.
1 + 1 is never 1/2 :shrug:

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: spacechildo]
    #20577888 - 09/17/14 12:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think to much water got in when I inoculated. I checked the marks on the needle and realised I put about 1.5cc's per hole (5 holes each jar). I was stupid.

I'm thinking about scrapping the jars and starting over. I may give them one more week. If I see no change they go bye bye.

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: TheGuyNamedPuck]
    #20577892 - 09/17/14 12:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It may also be the rice chunks turning to mush. I'll try taking pictures tomorrow

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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: TheGuyNamedPuck]
    #20577899 - 09/17/14 12:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

yeah, a whole syringe is ALOT for only 4 jars, what variety of cube?


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Re: my cakes aren't growing [Re: Hierophant]
    #20577935 - 09/17/14 12:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Brfv with Costa Rican spores

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