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Lepista nuda
    #20552660 - 09/11/14 01:08 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

yo guys!

have a qt of Lepista nuda ready to spawn or expand.  just nocced another qt up last night.

was originally planning an outdoor thing, with leaf compost.  but i was wondering if anyone has done these inside, and if so, how they did it. 

any input would be appreciated!!

the blue color of the mycelium is mystifying btw.  almost like an active species!!  i tried to get a shot of it, but its not coming out well.  u can see it around the edge


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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: blindingleaf]
    #20553205 - 09/11/14 03:36 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

yes this was something I was gonna play around with last year.  had 50lbs of grain spawn i let go bad. :frown:

may have even lost my culture. but when the myc aged, that purple was very striking!

Sort of like chicken of the woods, I think it's a strain thing.  And probably some sort of biological fruiting trigger, like a bacterium or mold.

anywho- there's some people in france that grow them in large bags in what looks like a cave or tunnel system.  they look pretty pale.  but i think they must get top dollar because I think they send them all to NYC!


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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: drake89]
    #20553223 - 09/11/14 03:39 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: drake89]
    #20553777 - 09/11/14 06:11 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

MAN :eek:

I love the fruiting room is a CAVE!!! love it


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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: Mr. Alien] * 1
    #20554151 - 09/11/14 07:43 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I've grown Lepista nuda in filter patch bags. I grew them in sawdust, and cased them with peat moss. Mine seemed to like a fruiting temperature of 60-65 degrees F. Also gave the a humidity of about 85% during the day and 65% humidity at night.


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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: Terry M]
    #20555240 - 09/11/14 11:37 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

hmmmmm....ok cool.  thanks for the link drake!
if this culture works, i'd b down for a trade!
so nobody has done these with poo or leaf compost?


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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: blindingleaf]
    #20557888 - 09/12/14 03:21 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

they said they used hpoo on the french webpage


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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: leschampignons]
    #20608659 - 09/23/14 11:31 PM (6 years, 30 days ago)

well i have 7 qts of colonized grain in a filter bag.  its healthy (i can take a pic tomoro)

after reading several threads on here....im still in the clouds on this one.

Terry M pulled it off indoors on supplemented sawdust cased with peat. 

i have access to zoo poop, leaf litter compost, and sawdust (mainly oak) and standard hard wood pellets.

im gonna run under the assumption microbes are not needed during colonization, but are for fruiting.

planning on sterilized bags of:

zoo poo
zoo poo/leaf litter
leaf litter/sawdust
spent oyster substrate (want to re supplement, but with what and how much?)

then casing with untreated peat with 10% oyster flour.
ill update as i go.
the mycelium is so blue/purple, it looks like blueberry yogurt

edit:  oh shoot, Terry already is here...so cool.  any recommendations?  do u know what kind of sawdust u were using at the time?  i have oak on hand, can probably get another species if suitable.  leaf litter compost is made by recycling center here outside the city (also where the zoo delivers poo)


shot of grain master.  hopefully u can see the purple hue...i tried to put it in front of a white background, but the light in my house is pretty yellow i guess :shrug:
ill take a pic of the spawn bag outside in hope of better lighting, because it really is some beautiful mycelium


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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: blindingleaf]
    #20610342 - 09/24/14 09:58 AM (6 years, 30 days ago)

Hi - i love Lepista nuda and saeva and have been working with numerous clones and strains for the last two years.

first thing ive found is that bluish or grey or white myc colonises  ok but rarely pins. Best myc for either blewit is lilac darkening with age.

Secondly i tried saw dust, rye grass seed, composted rye grass seed, manure, composted manure, leaf litter and finally composted pine needles ( we get 100s of wood blewits where i live every year growing on pine needles).

Composted rye grass seed, manure and pine needles were the best substrates and were thecquickest to colonise - pin formation occured after cold shock and casing. Blewits need almost frost temps then maintained low temps to fruit indoors or wild.

Substrate weight to small fruit body weight returns are a problem. 

Outdoor beds are way easier and probably better yields.

Saeva is impressive and seems to like rye geass seed off which it pibs like mad.


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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #20610421 - 09/24/14 10:29 AM (6 years, 30 days ago)

nice, thanks blue!!

so at no point did u sterilize anything for indoor fruiting?  it was just composted substrate?

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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: blindingleaf]
    #20613653 - 09/24/14 09:58 PM (6 years, 30 days ago)

Well I'm coming over. I actually love the way these look wild. I am super excited to see how they come out. I remember finding some in the sF bay area a few years ago. Rock on. BL.


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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: Sockadin]
    #20614886 - 09/25/14 02:07 AM (6 years, 29 days ago)

Hi no sorry i sterilised everything as generally they are very slow to colonise. Ill post some pics later.

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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #20615089 - 09/25/14 04:00 AM (6 years, 29 days ago)

An example of a poor Lepista nuda strain - its kinda blue rather than white but it looks white:



Some awesome mycelium - more lilac than shown in the image:



And some lovely wild collections from which clones came:





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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #20619448 - 09/25/14 10:56 PM (6 years, 28 days ago)

hmmm well I'm not sure now if mine is more blue or lilac.... its very hard to show in a photo, the color does not come out right unless u see it in real life.
from a regular quarter sized agar wedge, it will colonize a qt in 6 days, which is pretty fast IME.  i have seen oysters do that, and sometimes hericium.

do you or anyone else have anything to say about using a freezer at any point? like a freezer cold shock?

can u go over the way u did ur composted rye grass seed/manure/pine needles before u sterilized it?
i live in Philly, and pine needles are hard to come by without a car.  any thoughts on leaf litter instead?

here is spawn bag made from the grain master a few posts above.  the qt jar next to it will be expanded exactly the same.


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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: blindingleaf]
    #20619970 - 09/26/14 12:54 AM (6 years, 28 days ago)

You can definitely see some color to the myc. in those pics!  Looking forward to seeing how it goes :popcorn:


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    #20620296 - 09/26/14 08:13 AM (6 years, 28 days ago)

I would love to get me some of that. I think the idea of growing these in cased tubs seems doable. From what I've seen of French cultivation. I would try a supplemented sawdust sub, then case it. Maybe mix a small amount of pasteurized compost into your casing for the beneficial micro fauna.


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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: chefinainteasy]
    #20620402 - 09/26/14 09:25 AM (6 years, 28 days ago)

Aloha actually sell the albino commercial strain used by the French farm (and occasionally in Australia). I remember reading it is also pretty slow.

Lilac is basically light purple. Most of mine are light purple that gets darker when they fully colonise an agar plate or when the mycelium is exposed to fresh air after colonisation.

I composted these substances simply by letting them degrade in a plastic bin that kept them wet for three weeks or so. it was covered for the first week then left open.

A quart in 6 days is extremely fast for Lepista nuda. You must have a cracking strain there mate. Even the commercial strains used by mushroom farms are regarded as pretty damn slow. Some Commercial agaricus farms in Australia grow lepista nuda off similar compost to agaricus with a similar casing. Apparently it can be done. I was told it was only done then every now and then because yield weight versus substrate weight was super low.

Last thing is Ive worked mainly with Australian strains of blewits which according to one study formed primordia more easily and at slightly warmer temps than european strains.



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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #20620406 - 09/26/14 09:25 AM (6 years, 28 days ago)

the aloha strain is albino?


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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: blindingleaf]
    #20620420 - 09/26/14 09:31 AM (6 years, 28 days ago)

The Lepista nuda cultivated by the French farm and by an agaricus farm in Australia is apparently an albino which made a friend of mine wonder whether it was actually Lepista saeva.

Aloha do have a commercial strain that i was told was this strain.

Looking at these photos now I see that the mycelium was not lilac on substrates:



Ignore the one on the bottom right. its something else.


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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #20620427 - 09/26/14 09:33 AM (6 years, 28 days ago)

Actually I think only the jar on the left is Lepista. I cant remember :frown:

Here is a lovely group i picked recently. I pulled the mycelium for some because I wanted to transplant ( i know its poor form but I hope you can excuse )



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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #20620431 - 09/26/14 09:35 AM (6 years, 28 days ago)

In australia they take two forms: a very brown capped version that grows under pine trees of various sorts and another that is a milder coloured cap and seems bigger that grows under eucalypts and other natives. Probably just the same mushroom with different phenotypes for different substrates.

Im sure and I have read that blewits can be grown off wood-based substrates but i had no luck with those at all. It runs like blazes through composted rye grass seed or pine needles though - although not quite at a quart in 6 days speed.


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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #20620437 - 09/26/14 09:37 AM (6 years, 28 days ago)



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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #20620443 - 09/26/14 09:39 AM (6 years, 28 days ago)

quite similar to the field blewit (saeva/personata):

http://www.mushroomhobby.com/Gallery/Clitocybe/Lepista%20personata/index.htm


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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #20620467 - 09/26/14 09:50 AM (6 years, 28 days ago)

wow, great links!!  u truly are a blue meanie!!

well i will update with what happens.  i need to go to the recycling center and get some leaf compost and poo.  I'm going to keep my eye out for pine needles.

if i attempt my own composting, in a 5 gallon, do u suggest turning it at any point?


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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: blindingleaf]
    #20620540 - 09/26/14 10:16 AM (6 years, 28 days ago)

I love these mushrooms. My favourite to look at and eat.


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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #20620544 - 09/26/14 10:17 AM (6 years, 28 days ago)

I didnt really turn. Just mixed it up to see how it looked then added it to litre jars for autoclaving.


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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #20650334 - 10/02/14 09:34 PM (6 years, 22 days ago)

I pulled out an old plate of lepista nuda out of my fridge and it was crusty and old but pinning like crazy:



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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #20650335 - 10/02/14 09:34 PM (6 years, 22 days ago)

Sorry bad photo :frown:


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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #20650607 - 10/02/14 10:26 PM (6 years, 22 days ago)

Quote:

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Sorry bad photo :frown:



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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: drake89]
    #20652207 - 10/03/14 08:39 AM (6 years, 21 days ago)

Sure on both counts :wink:


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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #20654780 - 10/03/14 09:30 PM (6 years, 21 days ago)

Better photo of blewit/nuda pins:






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    #20654782 - 10/03/14 09:30 PM (6 years, 21 days ago)

If you expand photos they are clearer


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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #20737089 - 10/22/14 10:10 AM (6 years, 2 days ago)

sorry for delay on updates.

with the help of two friends, 22 bags of substrate were inoculated with a 6qt grain bag on 10/15.
substrate with all of them were the same.  hardwood oak sawdust, 10% bran, some straw, and some leaf litter (wood ash added, but very little)

i checked yesterday and the mycelium has started to spread nicely.

another 6 qt grain bag is ready to go.  with this one, there will be a more varied substrate.  the compost center for some reason still has not fixed their "sifter" so we can't get anything from them except composted manure.  so about 5 bags will be composted manure, another five will be dried manure/leaf litter, and another five i plan on drying up spent substrates of both oysters and cubensis, re supplementing, hydrating, sterilizing, and inoculating.  this might not take place until next week though.

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    #20738528 - 10/22/14 05:09 PM (6 years, 2 days ago)

rock on dude!  i have been trying to find them wild here but i keep just finding the poisonous look alike.


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    #20741818 - 10/23/14 09:28 AM (6 years, 1 day ago)

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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: blindingleaf]
    #20750042 - 10/25/14 02:34 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Nice work!
I finally got a good photo of the mycelium - bluish lilac




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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #20750044 - 10/25/14 02:35 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: blindingleaf]
    #20808305 - 11/08/14 02:30 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Any updates?


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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: hassingw]
    #20808788 - 11/08/14 07:38 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

some of the bags are going a lot slower than the others :frown:  probably half of them are about 90%, the other half about 65%.
we brought two bags that were about 98% to a local farm that has a hoop house set up to fruit outdoors.
still haven't spawned the other grain bag yet, life getting in the way and all:oldman2:

here is something kinda weird though.  the remaining grain leftover from inoculating those bags, i brought home to spawn to a pasteurized substrate instead of a sterile one, just to try.  i didn't refrigerate it, and after several days, all the pigment leaked out of the mycelium into a purple puddle in the bag....



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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: blindingleaf]
    #20814534 - 11/09/14 04:23 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Whoa that's awesome!  That would be cool to make a dye out of...


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    #20814694 - 11/09/14 05:00 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: drake89]
    #20826291 - 11/12/14 12:01 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

gonna put up some pics tonight of the bags, just a few left to reach 100%

as far as cold shocking/casing, would u guys suggest cold shock in bag, then open and case, or case first, then cold shock, then put into fruiting?


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    #20830363 - 11/13/14 06:17 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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    #20830532 - 11/13/14 08:15 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

only had my phone with me, sorry for the bit of blurriness.
bags as of last night (uncolonized bag on top is test bag to make sure sterilization was complete)


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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: blindingleaf]
    #20832424 - 11/13/14 04:39 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

When I fruited mine, I didn't cold shock them. Just cased them and put them at 60-65 degrees F.


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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: Terry M]
    #20834431 - 11/14/14 12:05 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

cool thanks terry!
was thinking of casing with peat and oyster flour @ 10%, not pasteurized.  also thinking of mixing a little local soil in as well, to add microbes.  any thoughts on that?


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    #20837255 - 11/14/14 05:50 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

My notes show that I cased with 20 parts sphagnum peat moss to one part gypsum and one part calcium carbonate (chalk). I moistened this with fresh soil water for the microbes. I have no idea if Blewits prefer something else. :laugh:


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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: Terry M]
    #20837301 - 11/14/14 06:02 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

ok cool thanks terry!!
also have some leaf matter collected from a wild blewit patch.  was thinking of blending some up, diluting it, and adding to some of the bags in the casings.  kind of a less intensive way of the tradd cotter microbe dilution technique from his book.  at this point, it would take way too long to carry out the entire procedure he has outlined for serial dilutions of microbes in casings.  but hopefully in the future, there will be time for an undertaking like that!!


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    #20844015 - 11/16/14 06:13 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

While I dont dispute Terry's comments and Stamets also doesnt report cold shocking be required, the isolates I use here in Australia will not pin unless exposed to 2-3 days of very cold temps. In the wild here they dont start appearing until just after the first frosts.

The commercial growers in France do not cold shock so undoubtedly strain specific.

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    #20844019 - 11/16/14 06:15 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Ive cased mine with mainly peat-based mixes. Ive never used leaf litter but many texts say its worth the effort.


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    #20844330 - 11/16/14 09:23 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

thanks for the input blue!
ill be casing tuesday, its the first day ill have extra time to do it.

so maybe ill cold shock 1/4-1/2 the bags.  still wondering if its a case>cold shock or cold shock>case thing?  anyone?


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    #20889143 - 11/25/14 05:09 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

so, as usual, super busy and had little time until last night to case.
out of the 20 remaining bags, we only cased 10.  wanted to case the other 10 last night as well, but it fell thru.  basically, we were going to use leaf matter from the woods that the blewits were fruiting from, grind it up with water in a blender, and hydrate the casing with it, in hopes of providing the particular microbes they need.  the leaf water was collected and stored in the fridge, but when i opened it last night, there was some mold in it, so it will just have to wait. 
recipe is based on Terry M's suggestion, peat with 2 parts limestone flour and 1 part gypsum, brought to field capacity, un pastuerized


once we moved them into fruiting, we sprayed the top of the casings lightly with wood ash water @ Ph9, just to be safe.

also made substrate for the remaining nuda spawn bag.  w/o getting into %'s, its half composted manure, half composted leaf matter, some sawdust and a tiny tiny bit of bran and gypsum.  also did two bags just composted manure.


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    #20897944 - 11/27/14 08:18 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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    #20898114 - 11/27/14 09:07 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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    #20898935 - 11/28/14 02:03 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

fuck popcorn, I'm eatin' leftover green-bean casserole until my stomach literally explodes :lol:


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    #20927132 - 12/04/14 11:02 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)



temps at steady 55f.  60% of the casings are colonizing the sides first, despite wiping the myc off before casing.  the others look like the above.  hoping for the best!

we also froze 2 bags for 24 hours, then cased and fruited.  ill get pics from outdoor as soon as i can.


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    #20927808 - 12/04/14 01:40 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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    #20955941 - 12/10/14 05:38 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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    #20956098 - 12/10/14 07:45 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

casing still looks the same.  hopefully not a bust though :shrug:

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    #20969262 - 12/13/14 12:51 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

got 3 pins on one bag.  tough to see with phone camera, ill take a shot with the good camera tomoro. passed by them 3 times before i noticed them, thinking it was just straw that didn't get covered by the casing :facepalm:



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    #20969481 - 12/13/14 01:49 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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    #20973857 - 12/14/14 05:59 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

here are pins with better quality photo


no other bags showing yet.  even if just this one produces ill be happy.  i was starting to think it was a total bust.  hopefully they don't abort.


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    #20974642 - 12/14/14 12:10 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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here are pins with better quality photo


no other bags showing yet.  even if just this one produces ill be happy.  i was starting to think it was a total bust.  hopefully they don't abort.




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    #20978062 - 12/15/14 05:53 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Looks like a killer strain mate. Be careful with misting those little guys as some will abort if they get too sprayed.


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    #20978065 - 12/15/14 05:54 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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    #20978473 - 12/15/14 10:21 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

haven't been misting the pins, but been misting the casing a bit here and there.
the blocks we put in freezer for 24 hours aren't doing as well.  only one has started moving up the casing layer.  20+ bags still colonizing with (sterilized) composted leaf matter, composted manure, some sawdust, bran, gypsum, straw.  gonna case those soon.  that will be last of nuda till next year unless we put blocks outside.
blocks we shared with local farm took off running but no sign of fruits.  i don't have pics because i don't have a car to get there.  my buddy drove them over.  ill try to get him to send me some.

anyone know if stamets is full of BS when he says he fruited them of plain sterilized sawdust+bran, uncased?  he never put pics of it in TMC, and in the casing chapter he lists casings for nuda as "optional", and then in GGMM, he claims he fruited successfully off SSD.  i mean the man can grow some mushrooms no doubt, but seems odd there are not pics of his success, especially w/o a casing.  although, Bluemeanie's pics of nuda pins on a plate make me wonder if it is indeed possible??


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    #20978530 - 12/15/14 10:42 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

^i reckon it's all strain related, I mean you can find pics of the French and Brits growing them in caves.  They are about the most expensive cultivated mushrooms- about $25/lb on the price list last I checked.  Terry M said his strain fruited off SSD and I tend to believe him.  I have his strain and its deep lavender with age.  My clone is not so much.  Mycelia.be sells a L nuda if you want to go in on it or something.  I don't think they sell anything bunk :smile:


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    #20978566 - 12/15/14 10:53 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

yea, but terry cased with peat/soil water.  so microbes were introduced to a certain extent.  I'm not doubting it can be done on straight SSD, but without a casing, it seems unlikely.
my ultimate goal was to clone wild fruit, save leaf matter that surrounded that particular patch, then use that as casing innoculant to introduce the microbes that particular set of genetics "needed".  unfortunately, the leaf matter that was collected quickly molded in an anaerobic environment in the fridge because that bag it was in was sealed too tightly, and the location of the patch was lost, so more leaf matter couldn't be collected.  i suppose any old leaf matter in that general area would have been fine??
but yea, I'm on board with the "strain related" thing.  blue meanie's pics of nuda and SRA pinning on a plate blew my mind, and i have seen Lipa post pics of blazei pinning on a plate as well :mindblown:

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    #20989916 - 12/17/14 05:16 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

update.

five bags now showing pins.  got a mutant in there as well :crazy2:

stem color is stunning.



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    #20990019 - 12/17/14 05:38 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

THAT IS SUPER AWESOME!!! CONGRATULATIONS FRUITING THOSE!!!!!!!!! :dancer:

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    #20990021 - 12/17/14 05:38 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

shit, I'm ready for a spore print :crazy2:

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    #21006300 - 12/21/14 06:44 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Wow well done. Superb mushrooms to eat. Your strain sounds excellent -:fast coloniser and proven pinner. If you have a spare plate give me a hoy :smile:


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    #21006307 - 12/21/14 06:52 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

thanks brother!
hopefully they mature...
the one larger mutant looking one seems to be getting soggy along the stem.  the rest still looking ok.  temps steady at 50f day and night.  humidity fluctuates btw 70-92% thru the day/night.


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    #21006310 - 12/21/14 06:54 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I like them in white creamy sauces. Man im getting hungry and also inspired.


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    #21006313 - 12/21/14 06:57 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

sounds good!
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    #21006327 - 12/21/14 07:07 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I read that somewhere yes.

I do know that in australia the ones under eucalypt smell and taste better than the ones under pine so maybe substrate is also a factor?

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    #21006358 - 12/21/14 07:32 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

interesting note on pine/eucalyptis!

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    #21036646 - 12/28/14 08:30 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

update

10 bags total have fruits now.


i have a feeling they are contaminated with "mycogone", but never death with that before.  either that, or they just grow strangely because they were over supplemented, or "in captivity" :stars:
kinda like how a killer whale's fin will turn over?
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    #21036981 - 12/28/14 10:06 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Look fine to me man! :goat: I'd eat them lol. What makes you think they are infected? I'd be more inclined to believe that they are strangely shaped because of environmental conditions and substrate recipe. In any case great job on successfully cultivating a hard to grow species~!


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    #21038417 - 12/29/14 10:13 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Great! Looking pretty leggy do you think it was lack of light?


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    #21038428 - 12/29/14 10:16 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

thx guys!  it was a nail biter for sure.

could be.  there were kings on the shelf above them that did fine though, but perhaps light requirements are higher than expected?  the lights are 5000k
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    #21040121 - 12/29/14 06:03 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: cmspice]
    #21040744 - 12/29/14 08:21 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Super impressive grow mate. Beautiful


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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #21041702 - 12/30/14 12:05 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

hardwood oak sawdust, 10% bran, some straw, and some leaf litter (wood ash added, but very little)

there are about 20 more bags that need to be cased, made standard compost, leaf compost, bran, sawdust, and straw as well.  just haven't had time to case them yet, been busy with other stuff


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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: blindingleaf]
    #21045266 - 12/30/14 07:36 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Awesome. Nicely done. I love seeing a nontypical species like this grown.


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Re: Lepista nuda [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #21047496 - 12/31/14 07:57 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

thanks WJ!
I'm hoping second flush will be a little more normal looking.
from that same batch, there were 4 bags left unbirthed/cased, which we left on purpose for longer consolidation.  hopefully those will look more normal.
second recipe of bags still waiting.


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