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teamjinx
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Single 1/2 Pt. Cake to Choir Tek/ Grow Journal *DELETED*
#20548290 - 09/10/14 02:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: teamjinx]
#20548292 - 09/10/14 02:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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use a pop bottle, no need for perlite either
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: cronicr]
#20548322 - 09/10/14 02:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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My 2 ¢ I'd get your sgfc ready anyway and use it on that one cake that way its ready for the next 12 and all you'd have do is possibly refresh your perlite when the 12 are ready to fruit
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: cronicr]
#20548332 - 09/10/14 02:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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cronicr said: use a pop bottle, no need for perlite either
definitely gonna use perlite....
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: cronicr]
#20548338 - 09/10/14 02:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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cronicr said: use a pop bottle, no need for perlite either

poor man pods!
Don't forget to dunk and roll.
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: teamjinx]
#20548339 - 09/10/14 02:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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if ya want go for it...but a cake is more then enough to supply the humididty
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: fatflash]
#20548340 - 09/10/14 02:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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fatflash said: My 2 ¢ I'd get your sgfc ready anyway and use it on that one cake that way its ready for the next 12 and all you'd have do is possibly refresh your perlite when the 12 are ready to fruit
what i was seriously considering - is there a downfall to soaking perlite now even though the other cakes wont be in there for weeks? it seems like a waste to keep a 55 gallon tub humid for one cake when i can use a 2 liter with holes everywhere and perlite at the bottom then cut some saran wrap and put it over the top
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: cronicr]
#20548362 - 09/10/14 02:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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cronicr said: if ya want go for it...but a cake is more then enough to supply the humididty
could too much humidity be a problem if i used a few inches of perlite just for one cake? or be ok or completely un-needed?
cuz i dont want to have to mist the sides TOO much and i think if i use a good amount of perlite it should reduce how often i have to spray it
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: cronicr]
#20548370 - 09/10/14 02:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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2 liters are a little narrow IMO.
Use a Hawaiian Punch jug, it's a perfect little SGFC with enough room for a full flush Assuming you have all the supplies to make a large SGFC, follow the directions below
1. Keep the lid of the jug!
2. Drill your 2"x2"x2" holes
3. Cut it in 1/2 horizontally, add the perlite and cake. Then put the top half back on the bottom as if they weren't cut
4. Tape ONE of the four sides with a few layers of duct tape or sturdy tape like that (this is going to be a hinge)
5. Tape the other three sides closed with masking tape or the like, the cake should be sealed into the SGFC at this point. Screw the cap on if it wasn't already and your done.
6. Mist through the top of the jug, and point a fan towards it for 10-15 mins every couple hours or just have a fan running in the room but not directly pointing at it for adequate FAE without having to open the chamber until your shrooms are ready.
7. When your flush is ready, un tape the masking tape, and pick the magic.
8. Dunk the cake for 24 hrs and repeat 5-8 for your second and third flushes
-------------------- The mushroom speaks: '"I am old, older than thought in your species, which is itself fifty times older than your history. Though I have been on earth for ages I am from the stars. My home is no one planet, for many worlds scattered through the shining disc of the galaxy have conditions which allow my spores an opportunity for life... How the hypercommunication mode operates is a secret which will not be lightly given to man. But the means should be obvious: it is the occurrence of psilocybin and psilocin in the biosynthetic pathways of my living body that opens for me and my symbiots the vision screens to many worlds"
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: teamjinx]
#20548395 - 09/10/14 02:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not with cakes, they're smaller in mass so they contain less water. Maintaining humidity at 85-95% R.H is desired when fruiting in a poor mans pod, the roll in vermiculite is to aid in humidity to prevent the cake itself from drying out.
I've been discussing Co2 in other threads and from others experiences and my own some p.cubensis can fruit much better in low F.A.E environments while others suffer. So hopefully it's a novelty that can fruit in a low F.A.E environment such as a poor mans pod which relies on small air volume to humidity the space.
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Bugler Boy said: 2 liters are a little narrow IMO.
Use a Hawaiian Punch jug, it's a perfect little SGFC with enough room for a full flush Assuming you have all the supplies to make a large SGFC, follow the directions below
1. Keep the lid of the jug!
2. Drill your 2"x2"x2" holes
3. Cut it in 1/2 horizontally, add the perlite and cake. Then put the top half back on the bottom as if they weren't cut
4. Tape ONE of the four sides with a few layers of duct tape or sturdy tape like that (this is going to be a hinge)
5. Tape the other three sides closed with masking tape or the like, the cake should be sealed into the SGFC at this point. Screw the cap on if it wasn't already and your done.
6. Mist through the top of the jug, and point a fan towards it for 10-15 mins every couple hours or just have a fan running in the room but not directly pointing at it for adequate FAE without having to open the chamber until your shrooms are ready.
7. When your flush is ready, un tape the masking tape, and pick the magic.
8. Dunk the cake for 24 hrs and repeat 5-8 for your second and third flushes
exactly what i wanted, and ty i completely forgot about the dollar tree 3 liter bottles!
except what would you have to say about doing this -
Materials Perlite, tupperware, 3 liter bottle, scissors, PF cake
take the bottle, drill the holes everywhere, then cut off the parts that arent as wide as 90% of the bottle so its diameter is constant throughout the bottle- then taking a tupperware dish, drilling holes in it filling it with wet perlite place tinfoil on top then cake on top of tin foil, then you can place the cut bottle in the perlite to cover the cake
lift the bottle up to access the cake. easy to fruit, harvest, mist, and fan
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: teamjinx]
#20548531 - 09/10/14 03:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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or you could spawn it to a bit of coir and put it in the bottom of 3 or 4
 i've done it in glass jugs
 silver bowl for the table
 old dog bi9scuit container
 chroni9c tek
 plenty of ways you can do it...it's just a cake so have some fun with it
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: cronicr]
#20548637 - 09/10/14 03:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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what if i bought some choir at pet smart or whatever bucket tek'd it with verm put it in a glass pyrex dish let it colonize and then put it in the shade outside here? would it do ok?

and it doesnt need a lid when its in choir with verm?
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: teamjinx]
#20548654 - 09/10/14 03:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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cover it with foil and let it colonize for a few days then yep it will do fine as long as it doesnt' dry out
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: teamjinx]
#20548657 - 09/10/14 03:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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teamjinx said:
Quote:
Bugler Boy said: 2 liters are a little narrow IMO.
Use a Hawaiian Punch jug, it's a perfect little SGFC with enough room for a full flush Assuming you have all the supplies to make a large SGFC, follow the directions below
1. Keep the lid of the jug!
2. Drill your 2"x2"x2" holes
3. Cut it in 1/2 horizontally, add the perlite and cake. Then put the top half back on the bottom as if they weren't cut
4. Tape ONE of the four sides with a few layers of duct tape or sturdy tape like that (this is going to be a hinge)
5. Tape the other three sides closed with masking tape or the like, the cake should be sealed into the SGFC at this point. Screw the cap on if it wasn't already and your done.
6. Mist through the top of the jug, and point a fan towards it for 10-15 mins every couple hours or just have a fan running in the room but not directly pointing at it for adequate FAE without having to open the chamber until your shrooms are ready.
7. When your flush is ready, un tape the masking tape, and pick the magic.
8. Dunk the cake for 24 hrs and repeat 5-8 for your second and third flushes
exactly what i wanted, and ty i completely forgot about the dollar tree 3 liter bottles!
except what would you have to say about doing this -
Materials Perlite, tupperware, 3 liter bottle, scissors, PF cake
take the bottle, drill the holes everywhere, then cut off the parts that arent as wide as 90% of the bottle so its diameter is constant throughout the bottle- then taking a tupperware dish, drilling holes in it filling it with wet perlite place tinfoil on top then cake on top of tin foil, then you can place the cut bottle in the perlite to cover the cake
lift the bottle up to access the cake. easy to fruit, harvest, mist, and fan
What is the shape of the tupperware? I'd say you probably want the same shape/size as the 3-liter bottle. If it's rectangular or square and theres exposed perlite when you put the bottle on top I'd think the air will dry out the exposed areas and eventually under the bottle too. You don't really want to be messing around trying to get the water content right on the perlite all the time, strain it once through a colander till it doesn't drip anymore and your excess water from the mists that drip down will keep it wet enough for the duration of a few flushes (in normal SGFC conditions)
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I was gonna say 3l bottle with some perlite on the bottom and FAE holes, but everyone else beat me to it.
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: NumeroEno]
#20548768 - 09/10/14 03:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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so heres the plan - i have some questions if anyone can help
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11916595
so i will do this, i thought maybe i should use pillow tek? this looks fine tho - i will cut the portions down by 1/5 so use a piece of choir half pint of verm (= 1/4 quart) and 1 quart of water
my question is moisture, how will i know when its perfect, should i let it be a little extra wet since it will be outside? etc - just advise is useful
thanks
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: NumeroEno]
#20548773 - 09/10/14 03:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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EnoRoxxx said: I was gonna say 3l bottle with some perlite on the bottom and FAE holes, but everyone else beat me to it.
 
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: teamjinx]
#20548779 - 09/10/14 03:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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just squeeze test it, no need to make it extra wet that will just slow down colonization, you can just dunk or water it when the time comes if ya want
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: cronicr]
#20548804 - 09/10/14 03:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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cronicr said: just dunk or water it when the time comes if ya want
any thread on how this should be properly done? i have no clue what id be searching for. dunking a mini mono tub? but that would be awesome if i could water it like flowers.
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cronicr said: no need to make it extra wet that will just slow down colonization,
So squeeze not too hard and a couple drops should come out, if i use all my strength a nice stream should come out for a second. or is that too wet?
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: teamjinx]
#20548817 - 09/10/14 03:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Field capacity is just like 3-5 drops at your hardest squeeze. Its VERY easy to go too wet
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: teamjinx]
#20548818 - 09/10/14 03:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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thats fine , chances are you won't need to water it/dunk it or nuthing but if the surface looks dry mist it
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Bugler Boy said: Field capacity is just like 3-5 drops at your hardest squeeze. Its VERY easy to go too wet
Gotcha, thesub should be like a heavily rung out towel, just damp
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: teamjinx]
#20548961 - 09/10/14 04:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Exactly. Too 'dry' > too wet...Too wet and you're shooting yourself in the foot slowing colonization times as well as giving contams an environment to thrive in.
Kinda like the painters motto of you can't go lighter but you can go darker, You can always add more water after colonization but you can't take it out after you mix
-------------------- The mushroom speaks: '"I am old, older than thought in your species, which is itself fifty times older than your history. Though I have been on earth for ages I am from the stars. My home is no one planet, for many worlds scattered through the shining disc of the galaxy have conditions which allow my spores an opportunity for life... How the hypercommunication mode operates is a secret which will not be lightly given to man. But the means should be obvious: it is the occurrence of psilocybin and psilocin in the biosynthetic pathways of my living body that opens for me and my symbiots the vision screens to many worlds"
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Is loose coco fiber the same as coco choir? In the store now a quick response would help. Texhnically theyre the same but is there a reason you use the bricks?
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: teamjinx]
#20549091 - 09/10/14 04:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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coir is ground fiber and better for consistency but the fiber does indeed work
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Bugler Boy said: Exactly. Too 'dry' > too wet...Too wet and you're shooting yourself in the foot slowing colonization times as well as giving contams an environment to thrive in.
Kinda like the painters motto of you can't go lighter but you can go darker, You can always add more water after colonization but you can't take it out after you mix
better to be safe than sorry if i can water/mist it -
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: cronicr]
#20549356 - 09/10/14 05:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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cronicr said: coir is ground fiber and better for consistency but the fiber does indeed work
Went to pet co got 3 bricks for 10$ when 8 liters of fiber was 13$
basically (bricks) 21 liters for 10$ or (bag) 8 liters for 13$
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: cronicr]
#20549369 - 09/10/14 05:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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cronicr said: or you could spawn it to a bit of coir and put it in the bottom of 3 or 4
 silver bowl for the table
So will i need to worry about humidity if i spawn to choir and verm like this in a pyrex dish and leave it on my counter in my room?
confused on how they need humidity in a sgfc but not here.
must be bacuase the choir gives them lots of water?
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Edited by teamjinx (09/10/14 05:32 PM)
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: teamjinx]
#20549395 - 09/10/14 05:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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i just misted as needed through out the day and covered with bubble wrap at night for something outdoors i wouldn't worry about it
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: cronicr]
#20549870 - 09/10/14 07:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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- will i need to case the substrate? it will either be outside or by my window which is usually open. The RH right now outside is 43% so should i case to keep in lots of moisture?
also when i put tinfoil over whatever container i use should i pop holes for FAE or big no no?
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Edited by teamjinx (09/11/14 11:22 AM)
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: teamjinx]
#20552723 - 09/11/14 11:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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EDIT
So the plan is to use this tek -- http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11916595
i will do this because because i have only one half pint and i want to do a 1:4 ratio which will end in me having about 1.25 quarts of spawn (<---Goal)
He uses a brick of choir with 2 quarts verm so 8:2 = a 4:1 ratio of choir to verm - i just need to make sure i keep this variable the same
i will divide the portions by 10 BECAUSE He used one brick of choir---- 1 brick = 7-8 liters = ~ 8 quarts. 8 / 10 = .8 quarts of choir mixed with 4:1 of verm = 1 quart of substrate
1 quart sub to 1 half pint = 4:1
Perfect
Will let everyone know how it goes
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: teamjinx]
#20553024 - 09/11/14 12:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: cronicr]
#20553183 - 09/11/14 01:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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cronicr said:

i bought this container 
its the perfect size for the amount of sub ill have
Should i put the sub in with the lid on and mix in the colonized PF cake and mix it then let it colonize with the lid on? or add tin foil? and once i start seeing pins is it good to take the lid off and not worry about contams or once its fully colonized
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: teamjinx]
#20553201 - 09/11/14 01:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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If the lid doesnt seal use it. If so foil and a hole or two
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: cronicr]
#20553218 - 09/11/14 01:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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cronicr said: If the lid doesnt seal use it. If so foil and a hole or two
Its REALLY CHEAP it closes, but not even close to airtight, the sides arch up bout 1/16 of an inch on each side - seems perfect
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: teamjinx]
#20559520 - 09/12/14 07:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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So i started to dunk. But, once i got it out of the jar, i saw some green mold. I literally just tore it off and its just missing a little piece but looks good now. So. Its dunking
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: teamjinx]
#20562299 - 09/13/14 03:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just mixed the choir/verm mix that pasteurized for 4 hours with the crumbled PF cake that was dunked for 20 1/2 hours. I used about 1 quart of sup to 1 cup of pf cake and added a top layer of choir Will check next tuesday
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: teamjinx]
#20562409 - 09/13/14 03:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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just read through all this and something that stuck out to me was the guy saying field capacity was 3-4 drops at your hardest squeeze, thats way dry. that might be the level you want for your brf cakes but those are not 'field capacity' bulk sub should have a bit of water when you squeeze hard.
also you already spawned so you just have to wait but normally mold will not just go away from cutting the spot where you see it, if it was trich which spores green it also has white mycelium that could be in there with your cake.
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: Mdahmer]
#20563035 - 09/13/14 06:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mdahmer said: just read through all this and something that stuck out to me was the guy saying field capacity was 3-4 drops at your hardest squeeze, thats way dry. that might be the level you want for your brf cakes but those are not 'field capacity' bulk sub should have a bit of water when you squeeze hard.
also you already spawned so you just have to wait but normally mold will not just go away from cutting the spot where you see it, if it was trich which spores green it also has white mycelium that could be in there with your cake.
We shall see what happens and there was a good little bit of water that came out when i squeezed
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: teamjinx]
#20563350 - 09/13/14 07:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Either gonna have a bowl of mold or mushrooms
If mold does grow would it be poisonous to eat mushrooms that grow from the sub? Whether it grew off the mold or not
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: teamjinx]
#20566374 - 09/14/14 01:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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and im still gonna grow the mushrooms out even if there is mold. Just so i can take a print of the cap. Not necessarily to eat em, i still have 11 more jars colonizing check this thread if ya want http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20549384
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: cronicr]
#20566654 - 09/14/14 02:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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cronicr said: or you could spawn it to a bit of coir and put it in the bottom of 3 or 4
 i've done it in glass jugs
 silver bowl for the table
 old dog bi9scuit container
 chroni9c tek
 plenty of ways you can do it...it's just a cake so have some fun with it
Hahaha so inspired, totally trying this out
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: pawnzy]
#20566849 - 09/14/14 03:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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pawnzy said:
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cronicr said: or you could spawn it to a bit of coir and put it in the bottom of 3 or 4
 i've done it in glass jugs
 silver bowl for the table
 old dog bi9scuit container
 chroni9c tek
 plenty of ways you can do it...it's just a cake so have some fun with it
Hahaha so inspired, totally trying this out
My goal is to get it to look like the silver bowl but im using this white bowl instead
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: teamjinx]
#20566858 - 09/14/14 03:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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teamjinx said: Just mixed the choir/verm mix that pasteurized for 4 hours with the crumbled PF cake that was dunked for 20 1/2 hours. I used about 1 quart of sup to 1 cup of pf cake and added a top layer of choir Will check next tuesday
You Pasteurized for 4 hrs??
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you can fruit mushrooms in almost anything.
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teamjinx said: Just mixed the choir/verm mix that pasteurized for 4 hours with the crumbled PF cake that was dunked for 20 1/2 hours. I used about 1 quart of sup to 1 cup of pf cake and added a top layer of choir Will check next tuesday
You Pasteurized for 4 hrs??
yup he said 30-60 min later mix it up then let it sit for another 3-4 hrs mixed after 30 sat for another 3 1/2 replaced water every 45 minutes in the second bucket it was in with 180 degree water
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: teamjinx]
#20579463 - 09/17/14 12:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Can anyone help me with how long i should be letting it colonize? will it not fruit till its ready?
I mixed with the substrate on saturday i believe and the tek said 10 days, but i reduced his ratio so it might be longer
BUT its also only 1.25 quarts total substrate so idk i think itll colonize fast, i crumbled and mixed the cake well.
Im just curious on how long it usually takes your guys' tubs to colonize
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: teamjinx]
#20579524 - 09/17/14 12:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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teamjinx said: Can anyone help me with how long i should be letting it colonize? will it not fruit till its ready?
I mixed with the substrate on saturday i believe and the tek said 10 days, but i reduced his ratio so it might be longer
BUT its also only 1.25 quarts total substrate so idk i think itll colonize fast, i crumbled and mixed the cake well.
Im just curious on how long it usually takes your guys' tubs to colonize
If you reduced his ratio it should be faster... And it probably will.
Fruit it when you think its ready, it should be pretty easy to tell
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: pawnzy]
#20580527 - 09/17/14 05:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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pawnzy said:
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teamjinx said: Can anyone help me with how long i should be letting it colonize? will it not fruit till its ready?
I mixed with the substrate on saturday i believe and the tek said 10 days, but i reduced his ratio so it might be longer
BUT its also only 1.25 quarts total substrate so idk i think itll colonize fast, i crumbled and mixed the cake well.
Im just curious on how long it usually takes your guys' tubs to colonize
If you reduced his ratio it should be faster... And it probably will.
Fruit it when you think its ready, it should be pretty easy to tell
increased the ratio as in 1 to 4 parts i used 1 half pint in a quart of sub and sounds good i checked today and its showing mycelium on the top, does that mean the bottom is colonized?
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: teamjinx]
#20582574 - 09/18/14 06:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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odds are, but that means its colonizing the top either way lol
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: pawnzy]
#20582815 - 09/18/14 09:03 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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pawnzy said: odds are, but that means its colonizing the top either way lol
would it be bad to open it for a hot second to take a pic for you guys in a day or two? i opened it yeterday for just a quick peak but want to be able to track development after a week
would it be bad to release the CO2?
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: teamjinx]
#20582825 - 09/18/14 09:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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NVM Just gonna take off the tinfoil and replace with saran wrap so i can take a pictures throughout the rest of the process
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: teamjinx]
#20582853 - 09/18/14 09:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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bout 1/3 colonized is my guess - mixed it around a little (by moving the bowl not with my hands) and covered some mycelium with the choir so itll colonize faster
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: teamjinx]
#20583074 - 09/18/14 10:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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dude your mispelling of choir legitimately confused me hahaha, cool tho bro! whats that in? a dixie cup?
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: pawnzy]
#20583586 - 09/18/14 12:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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your misspelling of misspelling confused me!
and yeah i have a bad habit of spelling it that way
COIR lol
and no its the largest bowl i could ind in my house, i usually use them when im munching and a big measuring cup isnt a big enough cereal bowl SO i use this huge bowl
its filled a couple inches below the top
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Re: Single cake Tek [Re: teamjinx]
#20597395 - 09/21/14 02:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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This was yesterday
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