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Alex Oxblood
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Tyvek lid moisture question
#20520401 - 09/04/14 05:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I PC'd 12 rye quart jars last night and when I removed the foil from the top of the jars there was some condensation droplets on the tyvek.
I brushed it of with a paper towel but should I be worried about contams wicking in?
I have a 3/8 hole drilled thru the lids and the tyvek over the lid and then the ring sealing it. Just one layer of Dupont tyvek I cut from a suit.
I also noticed a little extra moisture in my jars, not much but a little. and a few grains looked like they came in contact with some extra moisture.
Should I not use these jars, or am I good to go?
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Re: Tyvek lid moisture question [Re: Alex Oxblood]
#20520419 - 09/04/14 05:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've had some moisture on my tyvek. Never a problem.
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Re: Tyvek lid moisture question [Re: topsykretts]
#20520548 - 09/04/14 06:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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As I look at these jars that were at the bottom of the PC, it seems like some moisture did get into the jars. not very much, but its obvious.
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Re: Tyvek lid moisture question [Re: Alex Oxblood]
#20520558 - 09/04/14 06:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm not a fan of tyvek as people know. A better pic of the jars would be helpful in determining if they were good to use. Try getting a close up.
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Re: Tyvek lid moisture question [Re: Pastywhyte]
#20520596 - 09/04/14 06:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok, so the couple little beads of moisture shouldn't be a problem then, im assuming.
And if im correct, DuPont tyvek painters suits are suitable as a filter?
These are 5 dif jars. you see how theres a grain or two stuck to the side in pic #1? They were all kinda like that, but I shook them up. I figured it was condensation that rolled down the inside and got them more moist.
I dried these gains on a towel on my kitchen table for an hour and a half under a ceiling fan before I PC'd




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Re: Tyvek lid moisture question [Re: Pastywhyte]
#20520598 - 09/04/14 06:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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A bit of moisture on your filter is no big deal as long as it doesn't stay wet for to long. If you must use tyvek make sure you use more than one layer. I don't trust that shit
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Re: Tyvek lid moisture question [Re: MudaFuka]
#20520610 - 09/04/14 06:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah those jars look okay but like muda said tyvek is sketchy. It has been shown that the pore size increases during the PC cycle.
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Re: Tyvek lid moisture question [Re: Sanguin3]
#20520722 - 09/04/14 07:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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SFDs, EZ felt and poly fill are all better options.
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Re: Tyvek lid moisture question [Re: MudaFuka]
#20520840 - 09/04/14 07:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have SFD's but when I put them on, i put on the lid > Disk > Ring and it doesn't want to fit correctly. I have to force it on and it bends my rings.
What ill do, is put a second layer of tyvek on top of each jar.
What do yall think?
Do you guys have a solution for that SFD problem? I want to use them, i have a bunch but its such a tight fit. Maybe just use the SFD AS the lid?
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Re: Tyvek lid moisture question [Re: Alex Oxblood]
#20520864 - 09/04/14 07:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Using an SFD as a lid will likely give you to much GE bordering on FAE and will dry out your jars I think. I have been using EZ felt a lot lately and really like it.
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Re: Tyvek lid moisture question [Re: MudaFuka]
#20520897 - 09/04/14 07:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
MudaFuka said: Using an SFD as a lid will likely give you to much GE bordering on FAE and will dry out your jars I think.
I tried this once and it dried the grains out at an astounding rate
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Re: Tyvek lid moisture question [Re: Pastywhyte]
#20520952 - 09/04/14 07:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea. Is there any way to maybe cut a little bit off the rim of the SFD to make it fit better?
Honestly, ill probably never use Tyvek again. Too much of a pain in the ass to cut and fuck with.
I just wanted to experiment with it this time.
I just wrapped all the jar lids with a 2nd layer of tyvek....So, them being only one layered for the last 2 hours while I prepped and nocced em up in my SAB with agar wedges, do I risk contam?
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Re: Tyvek lid moisture question [Re: Alex Oxblood]
#20520979 - 09/04/14 07:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I cut up my SFD's into small circles and silicone them to plastic lids so I can't really suggest what you should do if you plan to keep them whole. Maybe just really try to press them down into place I don't think making the SFD thinner at any point is a good idea tho.
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Re: Tyvek lid moisture question [Re: Pastywhyte]
#20520990 - 09/04/14 07:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've read that some SFDs like the ones at aloha require their own special lids.
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Re: Tyvek lid moisture question [Re: Pastywhyte]
#20521086 - 09/04/14 08:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I got my SFD's from Out-Grow.com
I also read that doing it with the little circles siliconed on top of the hole in the lid doesn't give it the proper GE it needs or whatever. But then again, people write all kinds of contradicting things.
How long have u been using that method? Good results?
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Re: Tyvek lid moisture question [Re: Pastywhyte]
#20521089 - 09/04/14 08:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Also, what do you use to trace your circles on the SFD? A water bottle lid or something?
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Re: Tyvek lid moisture question [Re: Sanguin3]
#20521332 - 09/04/14 09:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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All my lids have 3/8 holes. I don't think it should matter tho
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Re: Tyvek lid moisture question [Re: Alex Oxblood]
#20521363 - 09/04/14 09:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nah that should work fine, I think some people recommend bigger holes anyway. The tek I followed just said 1/4"
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Re: Tyvek lid moisture question [Re: Sanguin3]
#20521400 - 09/04/14 09:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I actually made a couple lids with the little circle of SFD on it, but I never used them. Using tyvek this time has been a mean pain in the ass.
I just like trying new shit.
I have a good feeling about this run tho, last time I fucked up a lot, but this is a learning process. Ive Learned ALOT and am still learning. Once I figure out what I like and what works for me, im golden.
It blows my mind how much shit there is to this hobby. Growing mushrooms is a very simple process if you think about it, but theres so many ways to fuck up
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Re: Tyvek lid moisture question [Re: Pastywhyte]
#20576869 - 09/16/14 07:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Im going to try them small SFD circles next. Do you unscrew your lids a quarter turn, or do you keep em tight? I have 1 3/8 inch hole in each lid. This tyvek shit sucks, the grains have dried out.
In order for this not to happen when using the small SFD circles, should I keep em tight or keep em unscrewed 1/4 of a turn?
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Re: Tyvek lid moisture question [Re: Alex Oxblood]
#20576885 - 09/16/14 07:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I snug them. They are not wrenched down, but they are snug.
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Re: Tyvek lid moisture question [Re: SpitballJedi]
#20576896 - 09/16/14 07:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
SpitballJedi said: I snug them. They are not wrenched down, but they are snug.
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Re: Tyvek lid moisture question [Re: Pastywhyte]
#20578264 - 09/17/14 04:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Tyvek lid moisture question [Re: Alex Oxblood]
#20579159 - 09/17/14 11:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Got any updated pics of your jars?
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Re: Tyvek lid moisture question [Re: spacechildo]
#20581370 - 09/17/14 09:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Mycelium is very light looking. I think its taking longer because they may be dried out. Nothing a good dunking cant fix.

Edited by Alex Oxblood (09/17/14 09:11 PM)
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